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Re: Who's back?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2019, 12:59:42 am »

I used a Kodak DCS465 on an old Hasselblad in 1997 and later a Kodak Proback on a Bronika. I don’t remember the experience with much fondness quite honestly. The cameras worked well in film days but not so much with backs.

I see this as an attempt to sell nostalgia more than photography.
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2019, 03:58:17 am »

The only attraction with digital on a 500 Series would be if it was square, full format.

As for all those wires on the one in the video, as for pretending 500s were good hand-held, forget it. Mine lived on tripods. Even in a studio, walking around with a 500 on a cable to the flash was silly: you just can't focus well enough, and with digital, it would reveal that even more badly. They are slow cameras for considered working. You want to snap? Use 135 formats or smaller.

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2019, 04:22:24 am »

... You want to snap? Use 135 formats or smaller.

Nope. A 50r mk2 with IBIS. Once Fuji releases that then anyone with excess cash burning in his pocket can readily send me one.

I went like a fly to a rotting stranded whale corps when the E3 came out, but it was way too small for my hands so I had to trade it back in. I wished for a larger version and somehow, at that exact same moment in time, Fuji manages to fuel an already tormented mind with the release of a 50r. Of course, I saw it as a divine hint by serendipity, so now I'll be waiting for the alignment of the stars and other superstitious events to drop that beauty right into my lap.

Yes, I know, but as a religion, it still isn't as crazy as the alternatives...
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Re: Who's back?
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2019, 12:29:42 pm »

This is a digital Holga with Hasselblad lenses... It's using (presumably low-quality) optics to reduce the image from a medium format lens on to a cell phone sensor (it has a focusing screen at the film plane, then the phone sensor is taking a picture of the screen).

It has the resolution and dynamic range of a phone (without the processing trickery phones use), even if the optics are excellent. A really good MF focusing screen was a couple hundred dollars on its own - I'm willing to bet this is a cheap one.

Unless you're looking for a special (Holga-style) effect, $400 worth of any random interchangeable lens camera from Best Buy (Nikon D3x00, Canon Rebel or EOS-M, Sony a5000 - whatever's on sale) will produce an image in a completely different class.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 10:39:44 am »

Hi Dan,

Excellent summary!

Best regards
Erik

This is a digital Holga with Hasselblad lenses... It's using (presumably low-quality) optics to reduce the image from a medium format lens on to a cell phone sensor (it has a focusing screen at the film plane, then the phone sensor is taking a picture of the screen).

It has the resolution and dynamic range of a phone (without the processing trickery phones use), even if the optics are excellent. A really good MF focusing screen was a couple hundred dollars on its own - I'm willing to bet this is a cheap one.

Unless you're looking for a special (Holga-style) effect, $400 worth of any random interchangeable lens camera from Best Buy (Nikon D3x00, Canon Rebel or EOS-M, Sony a5000 - whatever's on sale) will produce an image in a completely different class.
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Re: Who's back?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 10:51:51 am »

I think this thread is needlessly negative.

It's clearly a product designed for novelty/fun/experimentation. If that novelty/fun/experimentation is worth the cost to you (and you're comfortable with the structural risk of backing a KickStarter), great; if not, no need to criticize it.

Will the image quality be good? No. But (hopefully) no one is buying this for the image quality.

Honestly, if it were $100 I'd consider pick one up for my (quite young) nephew who is becoming interested in photography. Seems fun!

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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2019, 11:24:11 am »

I think this thread is needlessly negative.

It's clearly a product designed for novelty/fun/experimentation. If that novelty/fun/experimentation is worth the cost to you (and you're comfortable with the structural risk of backing a KickStarter), great; if not, no need to criticize it.

Will the image quality be good? No. But (hopefully) no one is buying this for the image quality.

Honestly, if it were $100 I'd consider pick one up for my (quite young) nephew who is becoming interested in photography. Seems fun!

Fun.

That's a tricky word.

The previous head honcho of this site described pretty much everything he touched as "fun", which left me somewhat bemused: what in hell do people actually mean when they use that kind of abstract, what's the image in their head... the dictionary is little help either, being as vague as could be. It strikes me as one of those words of last resort - much as you might describe a lousy photo as having possibilities; an insuficiently boiled hard-boiled egg as versatile; a man caught by his wife when in flagrante delicto with her younger sister - or even a drowning man clutching at a straw (could be the same man) - as an interesting situation.

Funny thing, communication.

36 degrees C in the car at lunchtime.

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2019, 12:03:42 pm »


36 degrees C in the car at lunchtime.

Rob,

36 degrees C in the car. That's 96.8 degrees F  for the C challenged.

No FUN

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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2019, 12:08:56 pm »

A Scottish curmudgeon and fun: let's face it, the two will never meet.

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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2019, 12:15:04 pm »

A Scottish curmudgeon and fun: let's face it, the two will never meet.

;-)

Scottish curmudgeon. Is this not redundant?  ;~)

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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2019, 12:32:13 pm »

Scottish curmudgeon. Is this not redundant?  ;~)

Peter

Boris won the match. Those Scots may take off their sporrans, strap on their claymores, turn their backs and raise their skirts - just for fun. And that's only the meter maids.

Next vote, England becomes redundant. Watch the tankers being escorted by fishing boats and ferries.

;-)

P.S.

Sorry Jeremy, I forgot! Won't next time.

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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2019, 04:41:46 pm »

Fun.

That's a tricky word.

The previous head honcho of this site described pretty much everything he touched as "fun", which left me somewhat bemused: what in hell do people actually mean when they use that kind of abstract, what's the image in their head... the dictionary is little help either, being as vague as could be. It strikes me as one of those words of last resort - much as you might describe a lousy photo as having possibilities; an insuficiently boiled hard-boiled egg as versatile; a man caught by his wife when in flagrante delicto with her younger sister - or even a drowning man clutching at a straw (could be the same man) - as an interesting situation.

Funny thing, communication.

36 degrees C in the car at lunchtime.

I have another one for you. "A people's vote".

39 or 40 today in the shade outdoors today in Central France. 42 announced for later this week.

Edmund
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2019, 05:39:50 pm »

I have another one for you. "A people's vote".

39 or 40 today in the shade outdoors today in Central France. 42 announced for later this week.

Edmund


That's a good one: very powerfully democratic, whatever it means!

Bordeaux was 41 today, I believe. I wonder how it will affect vintage?

Rob

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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2019, 06:14:43 pm »


That's a good one: very powerfully democratic, whatever it means!

Bordeaux was 41 today, I believe. I wonder how it will affect vintage?

Rob

A little hotter still, grape jelly can be had.

Peter
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