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Slobodan Blagojevic

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1380 on: November 06, 2019, 11:38:02 am »

https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/foreign-vc-investment-in-the-uk-since-the-brexit-referendum?fbclid=IwAR03JyOnmf6A8uEAAiDftBrzd8v4_RY0ILQKC6-WJ4aJ5iIvFEvIP6ENr7M

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British entrepreneurs have defied the political and economic tensions over the past year, as the UK saw a record number of new startups in 2018. The country registered more than 663,000 new businesses last year, according to the Centre for Entrepreneurs, a 5.7% increase over 2017—and a portion will inevitably, at some point, be looking to the venture capital industry for funding.

The UK has long dominated Europe as the continent's leading nation for VC funding, and investment in the UK since the Brexit vote doesn't appear to have suffered. Last year, investors poured around €6.5 billion into UK-based startups across 1,423 deals, according to the PitchBook Platform, narrowly missing 2017's high of €6.7 billion in terms of capital invested. Not even a month in, 2019 has already seen more than 30 completed transactions worth upwards of €253 million.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1381 on: November 06, 2019, 02:20:13 pm »

No mention of the very high failure rates among starts.

I don't necessarily see investors in other people's businesses as angels, especially in today's climate, where I think such angels can easily use their funds against the relatively fundless people who ask for their help. Independence is very precious; vultures fly very high and are hard to spot.

Not only new businesses need to be aware; takeovers of big companies by bigger (or smaller, at times) often mean that some top brass in the acquired business is isolated to the point they can take no more of it, and are just driven to quit, breaking all connections with their babies.

Perhaps the only place people throw money at you for nothing is in a strip bar.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1382 on: December 12, 2019, 07:04:21 pm »

Yay!

Boris won and Labor lost 71 seats!

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1383 on: December 12, 2019, 07:28:26 pm »

Yay!

Boris won and Labor lost 71 seats!

Although it would not be my choice, It is good to see this clear choice from the UK;
Now Boris can demonstrate what he is made off.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1384 on: December 13, 2019, 01:23:01 am »

Apparently the British public did not feel that they were bamboozled with phoney facts before the original vote for Brexit.   This landslide shows where their minds and hearts are at.  For better or worse.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1385 on: December 13, 2019, 06:38:07 am »

Well, a real problem. On the one hand, my nominally "old" party won, the crazed red devil was self-defeated, but my "old" party no longer exists.

Where to go from here? We have a radical right government and no credible Opposition whatsoever, not because there is no real opposition, but because it can't organized itself in a sensible and realistic manner.

I wait to see whether life continues normally for me as expat, or whether I have to buy that little boat and a large can of gasoline, and judge whether Viking heroics out in the bay become required action.

And some guys worry about mirrorless or not.

;-(

P.S.

Perhaps the answer lies in a red baseball cap. Americans seem to believe that in droves. Possibly more useful than snakeoil, though. But red ties don't cut it - so it can't just be colour - even for those who are colour blind.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1386 on: December 13, 2019, 06:43:04 am »

Boris won and Labor lost 71 seats!

Only 59, in fact. With one still to declare. Some astonishing results.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1387 on: December 13, 2019, 07:00:27 am »

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1388 on: December 13, 2019, 08:48:25 am »

And the Brits didn't even need an electoral college to screw themselves.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1389 on: December 13, 2019, 08:50:10 am »

Only 59, in fact. With one still to declare. Some astonishing results.

Jeremy
Do you think it was due to Corbyn being a poor party leader?  Certainly he is/was not Tony Blair and maybe Labour needs to find someone in Blair's mold to take over the party leadership.  It's interesting that the major metro areas went for Labour, kind of a mirror to what we have seen in the US.  It looks like Scotland will hold another election on leaving and that will likely pass this time around.  Don't know what this means for Northern Ireland.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1390 on: December 13, 2019, 08:59:58 am »

It seems that slowly, painfully, the world is turning back toward sanity.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1391 on: December 13, 2019, 09:06:27 am »

Do you think it was due to Corbyn being a poor party leader?
Yes, without doubt.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1392 on: December 13, 2019, 09:27:06 am »

Perhaps the answer lies in a red baseball cap. Americans seem to believe that in droves.

Probably unwise to wear one in the streets of London.  Or Edinburgh.  Or Berlin, for that matter.  Come to think of it, they're not very popular here in Washington.

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« Reply #1393 on: December 13, 2019, 10:34:46 am »

1.  Do you think it was due to Corbyn being a poor party leader?  Certainly he is/was not Tony Blair and maybe Labour needs to find 2.  someone in Blair's mold to take over the party leadership.  It's interesting that the major metro areas went for Labour, kind of a mirror to what we have seen in the US.  3.  It looks like Scotland will hold another election on leaving and that will likely pass this time around.  4.  Don't know what this means for Northern Ireland.

1.  A bad leader, certainly, but beyond all that, I think the party is redundant in today's Britain. The country, as with much of western Europe, has moved out of the dire straits of the immediate post-WW2 era. Of course there is lots of poverty, but it is fuelled by large numbers of no-hope people, whether from their own indolence or other external tragedies that might have befallen them. But such does not make a movement.

2.  Really? I think Blair was the only labour leader for whom I might have voted, in extremis, but precisely because of his orientation within the left - eyes to the right and business, including his own, very much in mind - he became associated with the right in too many minds. In other words, he was too pragmatic for the faithfull sheep to follow. For a start, he was too obviously well-educated, which rendered him suspect from the start. Having had a good schooling is perfectly okay as long as you hide the fact, look like a scruff (as do I!) and drink lots of beer (which I do not). Medical reasons aside, I never liked beer, but ironically enough, I now find myself obliged to use it because as I cook but one sad meal a week at home, wine goes off in the fridge: one bottle, at a permitted glass per day, would last six weeks! I can buy vinegar more cheaply as it is.

3.  I wouldn't bank on Scotland going independent. It's one thing to vote for ScotNat (sounds like a railroad company) MPs in order to be a constant, nagging thorn in the side of London which refuses to believe Britain ever even reached Hadrian's Wall, but quite another to vote to be left out in the cold with no army, navy or airforce, no currency and no way of paying for pensions or anything else other than by achieving what Corbyn failed to do: stealing everything from the rich, a neat short-term strategy, but when they have left... ?

4. If they have any sense, they will reunite and resolve the silly religious problems at a stroke. I doubt if many of those extremist have any religious convictions whatsoever. Mass murder would seem to have indicated otherwise.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1394 on: December 13, 2019, 12:19:31 pm »

Do you think it was due to Corbyn being a poor party leader?  Certainly he is/was not Tony Blair and maybe Labour needs to find someone in Blair's mold to take over the party leadership.  It's interesting that the major metro areas went for Labour, kind of a mirror to what we have seen in the US.  It looks like Scotland will hold another election on leaving and that will likely pass this time around.  Don't know what this means for Northern Ireland.

Corbyn was an absolute disaster as a party leader. There's no question that he's an anti-Semite, and I think a great many people in Britain simply couldn't stomach that. Further, he is hard left, and the fact is, socialism has a rather poor record every place it's been tried, and has on a number of occasions led to mass murder. People point to the Scandinavian countries as examples where socialism has worked well, but in fact, none of the Scandinavian countries is socialist, and all of them have several billionaires among them, which is pretty amazing for countries with such small populations. (If the Scandinavian counties had to be placed in some kind of political box, I think they'd be best seen as a species of elective-fascism of the kind the more radical fascist states like Italy and Spain were unable to achieve. But that's another story.) In any case, I think a pragmatic Blair-ite style of Labour Party could yet come back, if it took the form that the old pragmatic Bill Clinton-style American Democratic Party took. I think one thing Corbyn did was make the mistake that Trump and Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have made, which is thinking that people want to fight, that some kind of bloody victory is necessary, but the victory they're looking for is over their own countrymen. As people wake up to that, I think they will become disregarded and even despised.

I disagree a bit with Rob's view on Scotland. I think a lot of Scots would take separation as a bitter pill, but many of them remember a time when Scotland was a poor place, disregarded in London and pretty much left on its own. It's the EU connection that's made Scotland the prosperous place that it is, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Scots made a very pragmatic leap and decided to separate, to adopt the Euro, and become a solid European nation. In a way, it might even become Britain's back door to Europe.

One thing that I think a great many pro-Brexit Brits mistakenly believe is that it's possible for the county to go it alone. It can't. The whole world now depends on fast access to large markets, and Britain is about to cut itself off from one of the the great markets of the world. (The others are the US with associated free-trade counties like Canada and Mexico, China and India.) China and the US are now becoming bound together to great mutual profit and I believe that will stick. It's not that other people will hate Britain, it's just that as a small nation among very large market conglomerations, it'll simply be easy to ignore. For these first time in centuries, Britain is about to become an after-thought. IMHO.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1395 on: December 13, 2019, 01:11:17 pm »

And the Brits didn't even need an electoral college to screw themselves.

No, we have the antiquated 'first past the post' system where a smaller porportion of votes gets a larger proportion of seats in parliament.  How can that be right ?
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« Reply #1396 on: December 13, 2019, 01:11:46 pm »

I think one thing Corbyn did was make the mistake .... which is thinking that people want to fight, that some kind of bloody victory is necessary
Not at all. His failing were his past history, a terrible lack of personal charisma and no hint of statesmanship.
The basic ideas would have had a much wider appeal if they had been presented well.
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I disagree a bit with Rob's view on Scotland.
No, Rob's on the mark. Particularly with respect to how future financial liabilities could be financed.

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One thing that I think a great many pro-Brexit Brits mistakenly believe is that it's possible for the county to go it alone. It can't. The whole world now depends on fast access to large markets, and Britain is about to cut itself off from one of the the great markets of the world....... It's not that other people will hate Britain, it's just that as a small nation among very large market conglomerations, it'll simply be easy to ignore. For these first time in centuries, Britain is about to become an after-thought. IMHO.
That's what worries all of us that oppose brexit.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1397 on: December 13, 2019, 01:37:21 pm »

as I cook but one sad meal a week at home, wine goes off in the fridge: one bottle, at a permitted glass per day, would last six weeks! I can buy vinegar more cheaply as it is.

Coravin Wine System. It actually works.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-best-way-to-preserve-half-drunk-bottles-of-wine-1452540794
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #1398 on: December 13, 2019, 09:56:16 pm »

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