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Re: Pausing
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2019, 08:21:31 AM »

From reading your previous comments in this section, Russ, I did feel we were on the same page street!

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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2019, 09:34:52 AM »

Iím sure weíre on the same street, John. I hate trying to explain what makes street street, which is why I default to suggesting that people who ask simply study HCB and those who followed him in order to understand. On the other hand, Iíve discovered that there are many people who can study the great street photographers without ever grasping the difference between what theyíre seeing in those photographs and the kind of photograph Ivo re-posted earlier in this thread.

The shot at the top of this thread isnít one of Robert (Stamper)ís very best street shots. But itís street, and Robert obviously understands what makes the difference. Ivoís post is static and obviously staged. Itís not that there arenít visual elements in Ivoís post that could come together in passing to make a street shot, but the picture wasnít made in passing, and it just doesnít come off that way. You could jaw or write all day and never really be able to explain the difference. Yet the difference is there. Some grasp it; some donít, and thatís just the way the world works.

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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2019, 09:44:06 AM »

Thank you John and Russ. You both see and describe the difference clearly.
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2019, 09:46:34 AM »

Seriously. I know very well what difference you see to decide it is street or not.
Only, I can not match it with the statements about Ďstreetí being the highest form of photography.

As said, the picture of Stamper is a decent one. Not more not less.

But it is inferior to the shot of Krawesky on so many points. Staged or not. (Sorry Stamper, no personal reason)
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2019, 09:58:00 AM »



But I would also define the "street photography" style as including an element of irony or humour or something that provokes questioning. After all, a photojournalist would also do candid public photography. What makes a picture "street" is some sort of amusing meaning and relationship between the elements of the frame.


John

Thanks for taking the time to reply, John.

I agree the above. It is one aspect of interesting photography.

And it is for the same argument I find the Krawesky picture far superior on the other.
Saying it is not existing in the second picture is so unbelievable (since I have no six million dollar man eye or so)I suspect willfulness or at minimum lack on effort to see it.
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Re: Pausing
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2019, 10:07:09 AM »

As I said, Ivo: "Iíve discovered that there are many people who can study the great street photographers without ever grasping the difference between what theyíre seeing in those photographs and the kind of photograph Ivo re-posted earlier in this thread." All I can say to your response is: "So be it."

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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 10:19:39 AM »

It is about a visual ďfigure of speechĒ a term not all can grasp, even not after studying ancient history.

Girl in bikini:

Photo by I donít know who

Girl in bikini

Photo by Rineke Dijkstra

The first seems spontaneous

The second is sooo staged........ but so spot on and the staging brings up whatís worth looking at.
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Re: Pausing
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2019, 11:27:07 AM »

It's no use, Ivo. Don't worry about it.

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Re: Pausing
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2019, 11:30:54 AM »

It's no use, Ivo. Don't worry about it.

Iím not talking to you Russ, I know itís useless.
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