Started by DavidPalermo, December 04, 2018, 02:44:51 pm
Quote from: Denis de Gannes on December 05, 2018, 09:15:39 pmQuote "But it only shows Adobe Standard and things like Camera Portrait, Camera Landscape, etc. I don;t see anything called Sony anything or Camera Neutral."The profiles that you see Camera Portrait, Landscape etc are profiles created by Lightroom to simulate the profiles used by your Camera model's software.The profiles you see available for the raw files from your camera model are specific to to the camera model they are produced from. You will not see the camera model named e.g. Sony, Canon, Nikon etc you will not see anything that is not specific to your camera model.
Quote from: Alan Klein on December 06, 2018, 11:48:25 amDenis: So do any of them match the jpeg from the camera? I shoot JPEG + RAW so I always have both image files.
Quote from: digitaldog on December 06, 2018, 11:53:19 amSo you're OK under exposing all your raws doing this? To answer your question; depends on the settings for the JPEG on the camera. IF you had a setting called "Landscape" for the JPEG (and you actually believe that's what's going on under the hood, a different discussion), you'd look for a camera matching profile called "Landscape" and perhaps, the raw using that profile would 'better" match the JPEG. There's zero guarantee it will match! Adobe may or may not have provided such a camera matching profile; depends on the manufacturer and camera model. Sounds like you should just shoot JPEGs: you'll expose optimally for that data and you'll get a camera rendering you presumably like because that's what you set on the camera.
Quote from: Alan Klein on December 06, 2018, 03:28:10 pmWhy do you say I'm under-exposing my RAWs? The cameras's histogram and LED viewfinder shows the jpeg interpretation. So what choice do I have?
Quote from: digitaldog on December 06, 2018, 04:10:36 pm. . . the camera Histogram shows you the JPEG data, not the raw.
Quote from: Chris Kern on December 06, 2018, 07:39:24 pmI keep forgetting to ask: why is this? Is there some technical reason cameras don't display raw histograms?
Quote from: Alan Klein on December 06, 2018, 08:21:56 pmI'm still confused about Camera Calibration tile. It's on Adobe Standard right now and had been before I guess since I started using it. There are also Camera Standard, Camera Light, Camera, Neutral, Camera Landscape, Camera Portrait. Camera VIvid etc.
QuoteWhy is there no setting call "RAW right out of the camera"?
Quote from: Alan Klein on December 06, 2018, 08:41:31 pmYeah I kinda lost track of the point of the thread. So I'm going to leave it on Adobe Standard the way it's been and stop wasting time. If it ain't broken, why fix it?
Quote from: DavidPalermo on December 04, 2018, 02:44:51 pmI would like to be able to import a RAW file and have Lightroom NOT put any profile or preset to it.
Quote from: DP on December 07, 2018, 07:05:03 pmit is technically not possible with Adobe products - even if you delete all .dcp camera profiles and .xmp profiles for your camera (model), ACR & LR still have simple matrix profiles embedded in their code... so no luck w/ Adobe
Quote from: Denis de Gannes on December 07, 2018, 08:02:36 pmApplications that work with raw files do not alter the original raw file
Quote from: Mark D Segal on December 07, 2018, 08:16:21 pmThe questions I would ask is which ones of them are systematically better in enough respects to make it worthwhile sacrificing the integrative practicality of the Lightroom Photoshop synergy.
Quote from: DP on December 07, 2018, 08:31:32 pmAdobe products actually can alter the original raw file
Quote from: DP on December 07, 2018, 08:35:21 pmfor starters - some people like me do not want to have Adobe's DAM to be imposed on me... and with LR you have to import first, even if you don't need that... so I use ACR... and LR PS can shove its synergy up the proverbial place.
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