Mounting something really big

[aaronchan]

Just wondering back in the day when Lightjet could print up to 72” wide prints, how did people mount it? Like Andreas gursky, those super big c print on aluminium panel.

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[Ernst Dinkla]

Just wondering back in the day when Lightjet could print up to 72” wide prints, how did people mount it? Like Andreas gursky, those super big c print on aluminium panel.

Thanks


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I thought they were facemounted with the Diasec method.

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[aaronchan]

I thought they were facemounted with the Diasec method.

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But don’t you still need a backing for it?


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[Ernst Dinkla]

But don’t you still need a backing for it?


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Right but that could have been clear or white PMMA like they used clear PMMA at the front. And AlucoBond the forerunner for DiBond exists since 1964, 3 or 4mm thick. Hardened glass has also been used in the Diasec process.

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[aaronchan]

I see
The reason I asked this is because I am researching some acid free mounting film. Both neschen and GBC only makes 61” as their widest size. So I was like how does people mount anything wider than that.

Aaron



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[dgberg]

I always consider the roll size as the height, or the smaller of the two dimensions.
Gets confusing to do it any other way.
44" printer can print 44"x120" +or-
64" Printer can print 64"x120" + or -

If your max mounting adhesive width is only 61" then you should be able to print (On a 64" printer) and mount up to 60"x120" to a 5'x10' substrate. (If you can find it.)
Now if you want to mount something higher then 60" you will have to find an adhesive roll larger then 61" high.
Easier to tell the client 60x120 max, unless you want to piece something together.

[aaronchan]

I always consider the roll size as the height, or the smaller of the two dimensions.
Gets confusing to do it any other way.
44" printer can print 44"x120" +or-
64" Printer can print 64"x120" + or -

If your max mounting adhesive width is only 61" then you should be able to print (On a 64" printer) and mount up to 60"x120" to a 5'x10' substrate. (If you can find it.)
Now if you want to mount something higher then 60" you will have to find an adhesive roll larger then 61" high.
Easier to tell the client 60x120 max, unless you want to piece something together.

Of course I know. And I don’t have any printer that is wider than 64”. My biggest Dibond is also “only” 1.5 x 3 meters.
This is the reason why I propose this question of “how does people mount something bigger than 60” wide?”

I know I could order ultra large aluminium panel rather than using Dibond. But for the adhesive, that’s more hard to order something like that. Maybe they use some kind of liquid glue? And this is what I wanna know.

Aaron


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[framah]

You should contact any of the companies who make trade show exhibits. They do oversize stuff all the time and if they don't have the equipment in house, they would know who does.

Seriously, something this size isn't for the average person to handle.  Let the pros do it.

[aaronchan]

You should contact any of the companies who make trade show exhibits. They do oversize stuff all the time and if they don't have the equipment in house, they would know who does.

Seriously, something this size isn't for the average person to handle.  Let the pros do it.

I have been a professional printer and frame for almost 10 years. I have printed many big stuff and framed a lot of super big artwork (mostly canvas and paper work). For the print, I have never mounted something bigger than 1.5m wide, the length will be depends on my substract size, which is 3m max.
I am not trying to mount something over 1.5m wide nor a client is asking me.
My question is just based on my curiosity.
I know there was a company call Color Services in Boston, which has closed their shop due to the owner was too old. But they are the first company who mounted a photograph on Aluminium. And I know they used to do super size print for a lot of fine art museum.
72" lightjet is not common for photographer anymore but I just wanna know if someone knows how to mount something in that size and how would they do it.
Again, just based on my curiosity. Don't you guys wanna know too?

Aaron

[Stephen Ray]

Just wondering back in the day when Lightjet could print up to 72” wide prints, how did people mount it?

80 inch Orca or AGL laminators are at least two machines.

[aaronchan]

80 inch Orca or AGL laminators are at least two machines.

How about the adhesive part?

[aaronchan]

seems like there are a lot of laminator could do 72" or up
but still couldn't find any acidfree adhesive that goes that wide

[Ernst Dinkla]

seems like there are a lot of laminator could do 72" or up
but still couldn't find any acidfree adhesive that goes that wide

Special order must be possible. Otherwise they can not sell machines like that.

The Diasec process uses silicone fluid glues but for the backside they will still use dual sided films.

https://www.wilcovak.nl/diasec   Max size 200x600 cm in the high gloss variety, that is 79x236 inch


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