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Re: Global Cooling. The sky is falling.
« Reply #1040 on: July 25, 2018, 11:07:33 am »

Jeremy, what are you doing in (Northern?) Macedonia?

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« Reply #1041 on: July 25, 2018, 12:47:28 pm »

Jeremy, what are you doing in (Northern?) Macedonia?

Looking for trolls.
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Re: Global Cooling. The sky is falling.
« Reply #1042 on: July 25, 2018, 01:42:03 pm »

Looking for trolls.

Very funny.

Actually, you might be onto something. I read about year ago that the ground zero of fake news is in a little town in Macedonia (former Yugoslav republic), where some kids realized that is a golden mine for advertising money.

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« Reply #1043 on: July 25, 2018, 02:04:26 pm »

Very funny.

Actually, you might be onto something. I read about year ago that the ground zero of fake news is in a little town in Macedonia (former Yugoslav republic), where some kids realized that is a golden mine for advertising money.
Yes, it was a compelling story and they were all working to help elect Trump.  I think it was piecemeal work and they were paid by the number of hits on the articles they wrote.  From the interviews they said it was all great fun and they couldn't believe that people were reading their stories.
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« Reply #1044 on: July 25, 2018, 02:26:19 pm »

Yes, it was a compelling story and they were all working to help elect Trump.  I think it was piecemeal work and they were paid by the number of hits on the articles they wrote.  From the interviews they said it was all great fun and they couldn't believe that people were reading their stories.

Macedonia Collusion.  Where's Mueller when you really need him?

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« Reply #1045 on: July 25, 2018, 03:03:46 pm »

... they were all working to help elect Trump...

Now, that is a conjecture worthy of fake news.

From the horse's mouth:

"Teenagers in our city don't care how Americans vote," he laughs. "They are only satisfied that they make money and can buy expensive clothes and drinks!"

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281

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« Reply #1046 on: July 25, 2018, 03:21:09 pm »

Very funny.

Actually, you might be onto something. I read about year ago that the ground zero of fake news is in a little town in Macedonia (former Yugoslav republic), where some kids realized that is a golden mine for advertising money.

I wasn't joking. Is "Alan Klein" an elderly photographer in New York? Or a teenager in his bedroom in Macedonia? Can you tell the difference from his posts?

https://www.ft.com/content/333fe6bc-c1ea-11e6-81c2-f57d90f6741a
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« Reply #1047 on: July 25, 2018, 03:30:07 pm »

I wasn't joking. Is "Alan Klein" an elderly photographer in New York? Or a teenager in his bedroom in Macedonia? Can you tell the difference from his posts?

https://www.ft.com/content/333fe6bc-c1ea-11e6-81c2-f57d90f6741a
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« Reply #1048 on: July 26, 2018, 09:06:00 am »

The image looks fine, except that guy in the middle holding some large camera instead of a bottle of wine.

C'mon now, Les. If I were holding a bottle of wine instead of a camera, I would have to change the wording to
"100% Chance of Wine"   ;D

Neverthless, that might be an interesting Photoshop project when I return to Australia. ;)
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« Reply #1049 on: July 27, 2018, 03:26:12 pm »

New designed nuclear power to save the day?

"MATTHEW BUNN, A nuclear expert at Harvard, said that if nuclear power is going to play a role in fighting climate change, these advanced nuclear companies will have to scale up insanely fast. “To supply a tenth of the clean energy we need by 2050, we have to add 30 gigawatts to the grid every year,” he said.

That means the world would have to build 10 times as much nuclear power as it was before the Fukushima disaster in 2011. Is that even realistic?

“I think we ought to be trying — I’m not optimistic,” Bunn said, noting that the pace at which we’d need to build solar and wind to quit fossil fuels is just as daunting."

https://www.wired.com/story/next-gen-nuclear/

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« Reply #1050 on: July 27, 2018, 03:36:32 pm »

...the pace at which we’d need to build solar and wind to quit fossil fuels is just as daunting."[/i]

Our grandmas already used wind and solar energy for the laundry ;)

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« Reply #1051 on: July 27, 2018, 03:44:05 pm »

Our grandmas already used wind and solar energy for the laundry ;)

My mother did too.  When I grew up in the Bronx, you know where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the democrat socialist is running, I use to take the wash up to the roof ("tar beach") and hang it out to dry on a clothesline with clothespins in the wind and sun.  Boy would it get hot up there during the summer.  I use to sneak a cigarette which addicted me for years.   Ah, reminiscing.

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« Reply #1052 on: July 27, 2018, 04:53:09 pm »

Our grandmas already used wind and solar energy for the laundry ;)
Until she moved to house in 1961, my grandmother who was thrifty as the day is long had an antique washing machine in her upstairs duplex that had no spin cycle.  You had to pass the clothes through hand cranked wringer to get the water out.  She always hung the clothes on a line to dry and living in San Diego seldom had to worry about rainy days.

Here is a YouTube video showing one in action.  This one does have a motorized wringer.
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« Reply #1053 on: July 27, 2018, 06:17:00 pm »

Our grandmas already used wind and solar energy for the laundry ;)
As do I! And the dishwasher, and the vacuum...
And the utility company sends me a check EVERY month.  ;D
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« Reply #1054 on: July 27, 2018, 06:19:12 pm »

I wasn't joking. Is "Alan Klein" an elderly photographer in New York? Or a teenager in his bedroom in Macedonia? Can you tell the difference from his posts?
Not posts like this one:
http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=125934.msg1058411#msg1058411
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« Reply #1055 on: July 27, 2018, 06:24:14 pm »

As do I! And the dishwasher, and the vacuum...
And the utility company sends me a check EVERY month.  ;D

Very cool stand-alone panel!  How big is it?  The residential solar panels around here (small Maryland city not far from Washington, D.C.) are all roof-mounted.

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« Reply #1056 on: July 27, 2018, 06:30:58 pm »

Very cool stand-alone panel!  How big is it?  The residential solar panels around here (small Maryland city not far from Washington, D.C.) are all roof-mounted.
It is a tracker that is rated at 2.4 KwH and I'd guess it's about 20 feet wide by 12 high. According to the monitoring dashboard, this is what we've 'saved' since install in 2012.
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« Reply #1057 on: July 27, 2018, 08:58:38 pm »

Good work, Andrew! Keep it up!
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« Reply #1058 on: July 27, 2018, 09:12:56 pm »

It is a tracker that is rated at 2.4 KwH and I'd guess it's about 20 feet wide by 12 high. According to the monitoring dashboard, this is what we've 'saved' since install in 2012.
You're fortunate to live in New Mexico where there's lots of sun.  Here in NJ, it's been cloudy all week and the sun doesn't burn as strong even when its out.  Of course, the climate's not as hot here so the A/C doesn't run as much.  I investigated solar for my home.  Home Depot had a deal with a nationwide installer, since dropped.  It just didn't pay for all the hassle.  My house is very insulated and tight.  I run around 10,000 kwh over the year for 2100 square feet kept at 72% cooling (4 tons of cooling). I heat with natural gas.  So my electric bill is around $1300 per year ($.13/kwh) $900 for natural gas.  When we moved here 5 years ago, I thought our utility bills were going to be a lot higher.  I was very pleasantly surprised.  There are neighbors who've put in solar panels on their roofs.  But it just doesn't make sense to me.  Your panels are separate.  Here you have to install them on your roof.  That creates all kinds of problems with roof replacements, damages, difficulty of service/cleaning, etc., more risks and costs in general.

Can I ask, how much money has it saved you over the 6 years?  What did you pay for it?  What kind of operation and KWH use to you have? 
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