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Then, of course, there was "body count" Westmoreland.
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Then, of course, there was "body count" Westmoreland.
That's what happens when you don't fight for territory.  How else do you gage success?  We fought with one hand tied behind our backs.  If we had invaded the North and taken territory, we could have had a peace treaty a lot sooner.  Of course the lesson here is to stay out of civil wars if you can in the first place.   

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I sometimes thought it was with both hands tied behind our backs, Alan. I think I've talked about this before on LuLa: When I was ops officer at Lion (call sign for the radar site at Ubon, Thailand) we'd handle flights of fighter-bombers in and out heading for targets in N. Vietnam. I'd frequently get ops orders with intelligence about SAM sites under construction in N. Vietnam. For some insane political reason we weren't allowed to hit those sites while they were under construction. Of course, once they were operational they could shoot down our aircraft. I'll never forget the poor bastard who was outbound with his F-105 that had been hit and was losing fuel. Our IFF (Identification, friend or foe -- google it) was out, so we couldn't identify him in the mass of aircraft heading west and steer him to Ubon. He made a landing attempt at Mukdahan, north of us on the Mekong, where the Brits were building a new airfield. When he saw the bulldozers on the runway he had to go around. He flamed out a minute later and had to bail out.
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Desperately trying to deflect the historical revisionism back to photography - an exhibition from Copenhagen Photo festival that I recently attended, showing some results of what happens when you don't stay out of other peoples' business ...

https://copenhagenphotofestival.com/begivenhed/international-journalism-project/
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Desperately trying to deflect the historical revisionism back to photography - an exhibition from Copenhagen Photo festival that I recently attended, showing some results of what happens when you don't stay out of other peoples' business ...

https://copenhagenphotofestival.com/begivenhed/international-journalism-project/
How do you see the rest of the pictures?

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Fly to Copenhagen
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I'm all in favor a free press.  But your original post blamed Republicans.  It didn't mention that the Pentagon Papers showed the duplicity and lies of Democrat President Johnson and his Secretary of Defense McNamara who were the main cause of getting America into a major war in Vietnam.  Republican President Nixon was only responsible for defending the release of the papers publicly after the fact so that future secrets of government operations could be protected.  Republicans didn't start the war.  Democrats did.  I just wanted to set the record straight.

No, my original post stated accurately that many republican voters reactived nagatively when The Post opened to the public the overall Vietman campain including the way then reining president Nixon (a Republican if I am not mistaken) was hiding information from the public.

My post wasn't about the Vietnam war, it was about the way people react when the free press shares factual information against politicians these people support.

As you understood, it was clearly related to the way you keep criticizing the post when they share information you don't like about Trump.

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... when the free press shares factual information against politicians...

Ah, the golden times of the past. Today, the press shares fake news.

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Ah, the golden times of the past. Today, the press shares fake news.
At least Faux News does.   ;)
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I meant CNN, MSNBC, etc.

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Ah, the golden times of the past. Today, the press shares fake news.

Trump will remain in history as the person who redefined truth to mean “stories I like” and fake to mean “stories that tell the real truth about me”.  ;D

What a valuable asset to raise kids according to good old Republican values.  8)

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Trump will remain in history as the person who redefined truth to mean “stories I like” and fake to mean “stories that tell the real truth about me”...

Maybe if you et al write that history.

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Trump will remain in history as the person who redefined truth to mean “stories I like” and fake to mean “stories that tell the real truth about me”.  ;D

What a valuable asset to raise kids according to good old Republican values.  8)

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Most historians suggest you wait at least until the next generation before writing the meaning of current history or what actually happened.  We're all too involved to assess anything without prejudice.  Because if you ask me, I've never seen the media so anti-president and biased in 70 years.  :)

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Most historians suggest you wait at least until the next generation before writing the meaning of current history or what actually happened.  We're all too involved to assess anything without prejudice.  Because if you ask me, I've never seen the media so anti-president and biased in 70 years.  :)

Me neither! I have never seen such a president in 70 years.
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Most historians suggest you wait at least until the next generation before writing the meaning of current history or what actually happened.  We're all too involved to assess anything without prejudice.  Because if you ask me, I've never seen the media so anti-president and biased in 70 years.  :)

It really raises the question, what would a Republican president have to do for you to question its acts instead of questioning the way media comment about its acts?

Because although I think that solidarity btwn people managed by the state is a better solution for the people, I have lots of respect for the Republican values (entrepreneurship, freedom, autonomy, hard work, ethics,...)... but I don’t see how Trump impersionates these values at all.

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It really raises the question, what would a Republican president have to do for you to question its acts instead of questioning the way media comment about its acts?

Because although I think that solidarity btwn people managed by the state is a better solution for the people, I have lots of respect for the Republican values (entrepreneurship, freedom, autonomy, hard work, ethics,...)... but I don’t see how Trump impersionates these values at all.

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Tribalism.
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Me neither! I have never seen such a president in 70 years.

And that is exactly the point, Les. People wanted to try something completely different, because “same old, same old” was gradually leading in the direction they didn’t want to go.

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... but I don’t see how Trump impersionates these values at all.

Which is completely irrelevant. It isn’t his endearing personality that people voted for, but his policy proposals. It sometimes takes a complete jerk to shake things up.
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