Photo of caged children

[digitaldog]

At a massive cost to you and I as taxpayers too. Look up the cost to house the children separately per day, versus housing them with their parents which was the norm less than 4 months ago.

Your tax dollars at work:

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/trump-admin-s-tent-cities-cost-more-keeping-migrant-kids-n884871?cid=public-rss_20180620
The cost of holding migrant children who have been separated from their parents in newly created "tent cities" is $775 per person per night, according to an official at the Department of Health and Human Services — far higher than the cost of keeping children with their parents in detention centers or holding them in more permanent buildings.

What's the cost for a room at a Trump owned hotel, anything less than $775 a night?
We need to save money so he can continue to play so much golf as it was just reported, the expense to the taxpayers for this exceeds the cost for the Mueller investigation from day one!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/01/trumps-spent-far-more-going-to-mar-a-lago-alone-than-the-mueller-probe-has-cost/?utm_term=.c099e366f724
Trump has already played more rounds of golf by our tally than Obama played in his first 39 months in office
Trump has been to Mar-a-Lago 17 times, for a grand total of $17 million in flight and protection costs.
Through the end of March, the price tag for Mueller’s efforts has been about $16.7 million.

In the grand scheme of things money wise, both are peanuts. Trump will save that and more my canceling war games; we don't need that right? Yet:
The 27 times Donald Trump tweeted about Barack Obama playing golf too much
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2017/3/27/15073086/donald-trump-tweets-barack-obama-golf
He's got to compensate about size it appears.
“Hypocrite: The man who murdered his parents, and then pleaded for mercy on the grounds that he was an orphan.”― Abraham Lincoln (a republican).

[RSL]

". . .ICE arrests of unauthorized immigrants with no criminal record. . ."

Of course as soon as they're arrested they'll have criminal records. Why do you suppose that is? Maybe because by being here illegally they're criminals? Golly. How can that be?

[jeremyrh]

Of course as soon as they're arrested they'll have criminal records.

So much for due process.

[RSL]

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/photos-obama-immigration-detention-facilities

Any questions?

[RSL]

And here's the latest on the subject: https://www.dailywire.com/news/32069/schumer-says-hed-rather-keep-focus-trump-solve-joseph-curl?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

[digitaldog]

And here's the latest on the subject: https://www.dailywire.com/news/32069/schumer-says-hed-rather-keep-focus-trump-solve-joseph-curl?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

Context sir:

Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) on Tuesday dismissed a legislative proposal backed by Republican leaders to keep immigrant families together at the border, arguing that President Trump could fix the problem more easily with a flick of his pen.

He (Trump) can, and he stated he will. Let's see if he lies again.

“There are so many obstacles to legislation and when the president can do it with his own pen, it makes no sense,” Schumer told reporters. “Legislation is not the way to go here when it’s so easy for the president to sign it.”

Indeed! Let's see what ELSE in the bill, besides keeping families together is lumped into the bill. If for example, 25 billion dollars for a wall is included.

“Again, the president can change it with his pen,” he said, warning that Republicans would likely try to add poison-pill provisions to any immigration bill that came to the floor.
“Unacceptable additions have bogged down every piece of legislation we’ve done,” he said

Again Russ, do tell us who started this zero tolerance policy IF you can. I've provided some outside facts about who did this, from a Gov web site no less!

[digitaldog]

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/photos-obama-immigration-detention-facilities
Any questions?

Yes, a critical one: how many children were separated from their parents? I do see this:
The Obama administration prosecuted half a million illegal immigrants and similarly separated families* in the process. So did the Bush administration.
The law and order republicans make this sound like it's a fault Obama did what Trump demands; follow the law. What your piece didn't state is what many of us are appalled by; children being separated
from their parents, parents being sent back to their countries without their children, a lack of transparency (where are all photo's as we see in the article you provided; where are the babies and girls?).

*similarly, bolsters? There's this link on the page you provided:
DHS told TheDC it does not keep specific data from this period on the number of children separated from their families as a result of the Obama administration’s policy, but the data bolsters a claim made by DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen Monday. Nielsen insisted to reporters at the White House that both the Obama and Bush administrations separated families at the border.

How many separated families, over the course of 16 years (two administrations)?  I don't see anyone here or elsewhere suggesting or stating it was ZERO.

[JoeKitchen]

And here's the latest on the subject: https://www.dailywire.com/news/32069/schumer-says-hed-rather-keep-focus-trump-solve-joseph-curl?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

"Legislation is not the way to go here when it’s so easy for the president to sign it" Schumer.   

It sickens me that congress has drifted this far from the founders' intentions about not having a king that they, even in opposition, still try to give the president more king like powers for mere political gain. 

This could all be solved by congress, so any hard feelings I have on this subject are directed there. 

[Alan Goldhammer]

It's nice to see so much compassion for these children who have suffered some psychological harm that will not be easily undone.  Well argued all you Trumpanistas.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Yes, a critical one: how many children were separated from their parents? I do see this:
The Obama administration prosecuted half a million illegal immigrants and similarly separated families* in the process. So did the Bush administration.
...

Well, if you read the article carefully, you'd found your answer:

“Obama administration prosecuted nearly 500,000 illegal immigrants between FY 2010-FY2016. They referred 1/5 of illegals for prosecution, which often resulted in family separations.”

[digitaldog]

It's nice to see so much compassion for these children who have suffered some psychological harm that will not be easily undone.  Well argued all you Trumpanistas.

+1. We should hear Womp Womp anytime now. 

[digitaldog]

Well, if you read the article carefully, you'd found your answer:

“Obama administration prosecuted nearly 500,000 illegal immigrants between FY 2010-FY2016. They referred 1/5 of illegals for prosecution, which often resulted in family separations.”

Sorry no, that isn't acceptable as an answer. How often is often? How many referred were actually separated? Make something up if you must.
Again, you'll be unable to answer that. You're showing us how hard it is to defend something that is indefensible.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

It's nice to see so much compassion for these children who have suffered some psychological harm that will not be easily undone.  Well argued all you Trumpanistas.

Every time parent goes to jail, kids suffer. It happens every day to U.S. citizens. Does your compassion mean we should not jail family people? Or that a bank robber, who comes  to the bank with his kid in tow, automatically gets get-out-of-jail free card?

[RSL]

Most of the kids -- more than 80% -- aren't accompanied by their parents. In most cases it's the parents who are separating the kids, not the US government.

[digitaldog]

Most of the kids -- more than 80% -- aren't accompanied by their parents. In most cases it's the parents who are separating the kids, not the US government.

The current government is, whenever it can! I don’t know if you are purposely trying not to understand this, or if you are really struggling with it.
You and Slobodan need a job? This just out:

The Trump administration is seeking additional help to combat negative media coverage of the practice of family separation along the border

In an email obtained by CNN, Customs and Border Protection, a division of the Department of Homeland Security, put out a call to all of its field offices asking for additional press staff to come to headquarters for 60 days to help address media reporting on the issue.
The mission will be to "push back on factually inaccurate reporting in the media" and look for reports in the press that contain "glaring inaccuracies," the email says.

Factually inaccurate, fake news; you know, everyone lies but this current administration.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/06/16/why-trump-lies/?utm_term=.84e1cb9d196b

[digitaldog]

Every time parent goes to jail, kids suffer. It happens every day to U.S. citizens. Does your compassion mean we should not jail family people? Or that a bank robber, who comes  to the bank with his kid in tow, automatically gets get-out-of-jail free card?

This 'crime' sir is a misdemeanor! Now cry foul that Paul Manafort is in jail for witness tampering.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Sorry no, that isn't acceptable as an answer. How often is often? How many referred were actually separated? Make something up if you must.
Again, you'll be unable to answer that...

Why don't you ask Obama's administration for the stats? Why didn't they have the exact numbers? Or the media at the time? Maybe because everything that the Rock-Star-In-Chief did was cool and no need for further scrutiny? As we can see from the pictures, there were plenty of kids there, there were cages, similar conditions...

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

This 'crime' sir is a misdemeanor!...

That misdemeanor is punishable by up to six months in jail for the first offense and up to two years for repeated.

[digitaldog]

That misdemeanor is punishable by up to six months in jail for the first offense and up to two years for repeated.

Up to isn't the same as always sir! The crime doesn't AFAIK, demand each person to be placed into jail before a trial or demand the separation of children. Nor placing hundreds of those children in tents. Your lack of compassion and inability to convince others this practice, new since April, by Trump's doing is noted. 

[digitaldog]

Why don't you ask Obama's administration for the stats? Why didn't they have the exact numbers? Or the media at the time? Maybe because everything that the Rock-Star-In-Chief did was cool and no need for further scrutiny? As we can see from the pictures, there were plenty of kids there, there were cages, similar conditions...

Why can't you find such stats yourself?
Plenty of kids is how many?
Prior to April and Trump/Session's new zero tolerance policy, there were more, less or the same number of families separated? Or you're suggesting to us that nothing changed in April?
Again, your inability to justify what isn’t' justifiable by providing utterly non specifics is also noted. As such this is another example of CWOBaT (colossal waste of bandwidth and time).
But it has thus far shown who here has compassion and who doesn't. So I don't see any reason to continue. Some of us have work and images to make. Singing off.