Started by Ivo_B, June 18, 2018, 01:30:38 pm
Quote from: Martin Kristiansen on June 18, 2018, 01:56:23 pmHahaha. Even I don't think that's street. But good one.
Quote from: RSL on June 18, 2018, 04:08:08 pmWell it's probably not unreasonable to have a picture of a street in a segment titled "Street Showcase," but I don't think that was the intention on the part of LuLa management.
Quote from: RSL on June 19, 2018, 08:33:22 am. Would you elaborate please?
Quote from: RSL on June 19, 2018, 10:05:26 amWell, first of all, Ivo, ALL photography is predation -
Quote from: Ivophoto on June 19, 2018, 10:58:17 amIt is not, Russ.
QuoteIf you are open to change your premise, we can explore how I see it. If you can not, even just for the exercise, it doesn't make sense to even try to understand each other.
QuoteO, I'm not going to dig in your posts to expose you to your previous expressions. But maybe, for your comfort, let's forget about it and drag a line here and see if we can understand each other's viewpoint in abstraction of rhetorics from the past.
Quote from: RSL on June 19, 2018, 11:39:55 amReally? Please explain why you think shooting pictures with a camera is not a hunt -- or as you put it, "predation?" Whether you're out there with a camera or in here -- in the studio -- with a camera, you're after a subject.What premise is that, Evo?In other words, you can't come up with a quote that supports your earlier contention that this section started with the idea that street is the only reason to raise a camera.Sorry, Evo. What I see is bluster and sentiment rather than facts.
Quote from: Ivo_B on June 19, 2018, 01:00:27 pmOk Ross, I'll try to stick to the content of the discussion.The subject of a picture is not necessarily a prey and a picture is not necessarily a hunting trophy. A picture can be an observation, it can be documentation, it can be a report, a report can be subjective or objective, full of emotion or emotionless, but in all these forms, it isn't a prey or a trophy, the subject is not hunted, only observed. A picture can be a gift from the subject to the photographer. Even further, with the attitude to hunt with your camera, you have no chance at all to make good portraits.
QuoteSo what did you want to say about 'all photography' is hunting. A camera is not a gun, it is much more powerful than a gun, not because its precision or stopping power, but because the ability to observe and document in the hands of an observer.
Quote from: RSL on June 19, 2018, 02:16:29 pmHere's a quote from Ivo_B, earlier in this thread: "Jean makes the link to predation. And I tend to agree street photography is a kind of predation, a hunt."So it's only street that's "predation?" Why is that? You don't think shooting a scene in landscape is "predation?" With a paintbrush you're only limited to what's inside you. With a camera you're always limited to what's in front of you. So, to take the literal meaning of the word, "predation," (An act of plundering and pillaging and marauding), shooting with a camera always is predation. That's why I always snarl when I'm ready to press the shutter release.Whatever, Ivo. . . But I notice that once again you bypassed the quote you were going to post that shows the segment started with the statement that only street is a reason to raise the camera.This discussion is getting sillier and sillier, so I think I'm gonna quit while I'm still ahead.
Quote from: Telecaster on June 19, 2018, 04:14:42 pmThis thread is an excellent example of what happens when proselytizing runs up against the refusal to convert.
Quote from: Telecaster on June 19, 2018, 04:14:42 pmThis thread is an excellent example of what happens when proselytizing runs up against the refusal to convert.-Dave-
Quote from: Ivophoto on June 20, 2018, 01:06:27 amOn the other hand, I guess street photography is considered as a kind of religion by some.
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