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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #200 on: July 26, 2018, 02:24:51 pm »

Right now I believe that the D850 is still superior to the a7rIII. But it seems clear that the mirrorless technology is maturing quickly and some of the advantages such as better eye AF, and more compact designs, more design freedom for lenses are very powerful, even if the current gen isnít quite there yet.

So I would first add a mirrorless body and start to build a lens portfolio, probably starting with a 35mm as my first usage would be street photography.

I have considering a Leica M10 many times and gave up on the idea every time because of focus accuracy concerns. The mirrorless bodyís first mission will be a Leica alternative.

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With eyesight problems in mind my desired full frame AF mirrorless offering would be based on the form of the Leica M series with the EVF of the SL in place of the rangefinder: an interchangeable lens Q offering AF native lenses and M lenses via an adapter.

There are plenty of folk out there hoping for similar. The surprise is that it hasn't yet made an appearance. 
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #201 on: July 26, 2018, 03:49:47 pm »

Hi,

What is wrong with the SL? Is it the size?

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Erik

With eyesight problems in mind my desired full frame AF mirrorless offering would be based on the form of the Leica M series with the EVF of the SL in place of the rangefinder: an interchangeable lens Q offering AF native lenses and M lenses via an adapter.

There are plenty of folk out there hoping for similar. The surprise is that it hasn't yet made an appearance.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #202 on: July 26, 2018, 03:55:58 pm »

With eyesight problems in mind my desired full frame AF mirrorless offering would be based on the form of the Leica M series with the EVF of the SL in place of the rangefinder: an interchangeable lens Q offering AF native lenses and M lenses via an adapter.

I've been using my Sony A7iii/Techart combo as something like that. It's not an optimal solution at all, but with 40mm+ lenses it works well enough for me to keep using it.

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #203 on: July 26, 2018, 04:24:23 pm »

Hi,

What is wrong with the SL? Is it the size?

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Erik

Indeed, the body and native lenses.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #204 on: July 26, 2018, 04:33:17 pm »

With eyesight problems in mind my desired full frame AF mirrorless offering would be based on the form of the Leica M series with the EVF of the SL in place of the rangefinder: an interchangeable lens Q offering AF native lenses and M lenses via an adapter.

There are plenty of folk out there hoping for similar. The surprise is that it hasn't yet made an appearance.

That sounds almost like the spec sheet for the Leica CL. It's APS-C, but I'm pretty sure it checks every box on your list.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #205 on: July 26, 2018, 05:36:13 pm »

That sounds almost like the spec sheet for the Leica CL. It's APS-C, but I'm pretty sure it checks every box on your list.

Except full frame.

I've already downsized from medium format and wouldn't want a further downsize, also I wouldn't want to compromise the focal lengths of my existing M series lenses.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #206 on: July 27, 2018, 06:58:15 am »

With eyesight problems in mind my desired full frame AF mirrorless offering would be based on the form of the Leica M series with the EVF of the SL in place of the rangefinder: an interchangeable lens Q offering AF native lenses and M lenses via an adapter.

There are plenty of folk out there hoping for similar. The surprise is that it hasn't yet made an appearance.

Minus the FF, (which is much less relevant these days than once it was) the Fuji X-Pro 2 fits your description nicely! 😀

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #207 on: July 27, 2018, 07:20:39 am »

Minus the FF, (which is much less relevant these days than once it was) the Fuji X-Pro 2 fits your description nicely! 😀

Rand

No it doesn't. Please see my post above.

I've used the X-pro, problem is when I pick it up all I want to do is put it down.
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« Reply #208 on: July 27, 2018, 02:54:28 pm »

No it doesn't. Please see my post above.

I've used the X-pro, problem is when I pick it up all I want to do is put it down.

Quite the opposite to how I felt about my last employer's M3 back in '65...

Rob

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« Reply #209 on: July 27, 2018, 03:00:06 pm »

Hi,

Personally, I see gear mostly as an imaging device. If it delivers great images I tend to ignore the rest.

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Erik

No it doesn't. Please see my post above.

I've used the X-pro, problem is when I pick it up all I want to do is put it down.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #210 on: July 27, 2018, 04:25:46 pm »

Hi,

Personally, I see gear mostly as an imaging device. If it delivers great images I tend to ignore the rest.

Best regards
Erik

I need to love using my camera. Hopefully it will allow me to deliver great images.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #211 on: July 27, 2018, 09:03:38 pm »

Hi,

Personally, I see gear mostly as an imaging device. If it delivers great images I tend to ignore the rest.

Best regards
Erik

I'm with you here as far as great images...but the damn outfit needs to be light. I'm done lugging heavy bulky gear through heated, humid, crowded alleys.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #212 on: July 28, 2018, 01:51:09 am »

I'm with you here as far as great images...but the damn outfit needs to be light. I'm done lugging heavy bulky gear through heated, humid, crowded alleys.

Iím with you. But it takes some discipline. I am starting to carry more stuff and end up with the same weight.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #213 on: July 28, 2018, 04:05:16 am »

Iím with you. But it takes some discipline. I am starting to carry more stuff and end up with the same weight.

The moment you start to carry a tripod and a few lenses, the relative weight saving becomes negligible.

Most middle aged man have far greater weight loss potential watching their diet and doing more exercise. ;)

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« Reply #214 on: July 28, 2018, 04:50:13 am »

I'm down to one small body and lens in hand (wrist strap/grip) and another small body and lens in a very small bag (bandolier). Works for me.

I've been the same weight (70kg) for my entire adult life.

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #215 on: July 28, 2018, 05:21:59 am »

Quite the opposite to how I felt about my last employer's M3 back in '65...

Rob

I'm sure most current imaging devices that are available today would meet my needs in terms of image performance, but yes, I think one instinctively knows when a camera is right.

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #216 on: July 28, 2018, 06:00:26 am »

The moment you start to carry a tripod and a few lenses, the relative weight saving becomes negligible.

Most middle aged man have far greater weight loss potential watching their diet and doing more exercise. ;)

Cheers,
Bernard

If you're carrying the biggest f2.8 zooms and a tripod maybe the camera body becomes insignificant but I can carry my A7 and three or four compact primes in a small bag and my tripod easily. My 5D plus lenses were enough on their own and as much as I'd want to carry and needed a much bigger bag.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #217 on: July 28, 2018, 06:12:12 am »

If you're carrying the biggest f2.8 zooms and a tripod maybe the camera body becomes insignificant but I can carry my A7 and three or four compact primes in a small bag and my tripod easily. My 5D plus lenses were enough on their own and as much as I'd want to carry and needed a much bigger bag.

It would be great if you could share the list of lenses you used to carry with your 5D vs those you carry nowadays.

Cheers,
Bernard

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #218 on: July 28, 2018, 06:21:46 am »

On a long trip to remote areas of Tibet I carried a small tripod and two APSC bodies, three zooms that took me from 10 to 210 mm(equivalent to 15 to 315mm) and a bunch of little batteries. All in a messenger size bag. I have printed up to A2 no problems at all.

The FF is a little bulkier but still big weight savings overall. The problem is that I have to stop myself from taking three zooms and three primes and a flash and tripod simply because itís all a bit lighter. For most stuff the body with the 24 to 70 is all I actually use or need.

Commercially itís not a big deal as I tend to load up with gear and put it on a trolly.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #219 on: July 28, 2018, 06:25:43 am »

I'm down to one small body and lens in hand (wrist strap/grip) and another small body and lens in a very small bag (bandolier). Works for me.

I've been the same weight (70kg) for my entire adult life.

;-)

Spooky!

So was I, until Ann and her cooking vanished, and then I fell to around 66kg where I appear to be stranded. I conclude that age plays its bit too, because my biceps now hang where there was nothing visible before, and the pecs are fighting better judgement to say hello! to my lower rib, possibly in search of verification of the missing one which, apparently, is biblical myth. Who knew?
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