Doug.... does the shutterless version have a Copal 0 mount and spacing? A picture is worth a thousand words......
Victor
Edit: Obviously there must be a spacer with the correct thickness to take the place of the shutter or the aperture is the same thickness of the old copal shutter.
I've just finished up a Skype call and seen a prototype of a Rodenstock HR lens in the diaphragm/no shutter configuration. It is not quite final, so I cannot reproduce the screen shot I took, but suffice to say there will be something in the fashion of a
tube to account for the spacing. I don't have a confirmed filter thread size yet for the 138mm, but it is a large heavy lens. Alpa provides 1.5 kg as the listed weight, and this is probably about 200 g more than the lens without helical mount. Rodestock lists the 90HR-SW as 680 g while Alpa lists it at 880 g.
Steve Hendrix/CI