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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2018, 02:29:38 pm »

I'd use their TC918 target IF you can get the unit working.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2018, 02:35:03 pm »

Well, the unit works. When i use it in Roland it works perfect. Tha'ts the strange part.So i think it is something with colorport.

I will continue trying, i'm sure i will find a way.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2018, 02:44:21 pm »

What do you mean "When I use it in Roland it works"?
Could be CP, not supported in years and years.
I'm going to dust off my copy and see if it works with an i1Pro.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2018, 02:51:56 pm »

Excuse me, i was talking about Versaworks**

The video on youtube showed me with the first steps. I created a new profile in versaworks -> media -> media explorer.

https://youtu.be/lhBC8jxDIAA?t=3m41s

That part, it worked like charm. So i know the unit is working. I'm currently printing your TC9.18.

To see if i have any luck with these patches.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2018, 03:14:11 pm »

This one seem to work. I just managed to scan a few patches.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2018, 03:41:35 pm »

Yes, that's what you're looking for. Now scan everything and hopefully save off the CGATs file.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2018, 03:50:19 pm »

It's working well now, almost done !
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2018, 04:08:36 pm »

I'm finished. There are numberous of options. Cgats is included in muliple options:

400nm-700nm or 380nm-780nm.
with
Value scale 0.1-1 and 0-100

Not really sure what the difference is.

What would be the best for icc creating a icc file?
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2018, 04:25:42 pm »

I'm finished. There are numberous of options. Cgats is included in muliple options:

400nm-700nm or 380nm-780nm.
with
Value scale 0.1-1 and 0-100

Not really sure what the difference is.

What would be the best for icc creating a icc file?
Either will do just fine. The difference is in the distance in the spectrum.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2018, 07:20:16 am »

It was getting late yesterday, so i went to bed first.

Would you like to help me creating this profiel? I'm happy to pay a compensation.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2018, 09:35:16 am »

Either will do just fine. The difference is in the distance in the spectrum.
If you send me the CGATs file, as I said earlier, I'd be happy to generate an RGB profile. No compensation necessary as if the profile sucks, I want no part of that grief. You did the hard part in terms of 'work' by measuring the target.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2018, 08:35:15 am »

I uploaded the file.

Is this a file you can work with??

Thanks!
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2018, 08:42:12 am »

I am also trying to get this working on: "profilemaker5.0.10"

It was still available on the web and is able to create ICC profiles for printers.

But when i scan the patches, it keeps saying :"Please remeasure the last strip..."

Anyone a idea what this could be?
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2018, 09:10:06 am »

I am also trying to get this working on: "profilemaker5.0.10"
PMP 5 is dongle protected software. If you haven't the necessary dongle it won't build profiles.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2018, 09:31:48 am »

I also added a comparison of what issue i'm trying to solve.

I printed the chart with my epson also.

As you can see, the Roland issues to much magenta. Or at least, i think that is the issue.

The grays have a red tone. See the red dots i placed on the top chart.

I'm hoping a ICC profile fixes this issue, or i'm i looking in the wrong direction?
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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2018, 10:18:48 am »

The PMP error I can't advise on, it should be able to read all the patches and save the file. But you did that with CP and I have the CGATs file and was able to build a profile. PM me your email and I'll send it.
The targets SHOULD look different depending on the printer so what you report is nothing to worry about (Roland looking differing than Epson).
The soft proof from the profile looks OK so that's somewhat a good sign but you'll need to of course get it and run some tests. I'd start with this test reference image.
http://www.digitaldog.net/files/2014PrinterTestFileFlat.tif.zip
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2018, 10:38:00 am »

Thanks for your response. I understand it is nothing to worry about, but i wanted to show the issue. I'm trying to get good (same) results on the Roland, just like the Epson. I understand there will always be a difference, but grays should look like gray. And it's now more of a gray/red color, hehe.

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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2018, 11:13:00 am »

I'm trying to get good (same) results on the Roland, just like the Epson. I understand there will always be a difference, but grays should look like gray. And it's now more of a gray/red color, hehe.
You'll need output profiles from each first (and good ones). What you see here is the 'raw' output without such a profile so the appearance isn't anything to worry about.
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2018, 11:33:17 am »

Thanks for the icc profile, unfortunately the results were very bad. Colors are now completely messed up.

I'm kinda running out of ideas. Does anyone have any advise how i can turn my red-gray into gray .
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Re: Issues profiling DTP41
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2018, 11:35:25 am »

Thanks for the icc profile, unfortunately the results were very bad. Colors are now completely messed up.
GIGO:Garbage In Garbage Out. It's either how you printed the targets or how they were measured etc. IF this is the only profile you need, getting that DTP-41, unless free, probably is costing you more time and money than necessary.

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