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Sorry, Silver Efex.
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I actually wrote about the method as long ago as 2012, Jeremy, and it's in my book Advanced B&W Photography (2nd edition). It's currently out of print -but Amazon list used copies from £0.01!

Shows how I like to keep my finger on the pulse, eh? Now I just have to work out how to do the export to PS and the load into SFX with a single keystroke. Shouldn't be too hard using Keyboard Maestro.

Your book is indeed on Amazon at £0.01, with delivery at 309 times the cost of the book. Or you can buy a copy for £44.

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Somewhat OT, but I can also recommend Vincent Versace's "From Oz to Kansas - Almost Every Black and White Conversion Technique Known to Man", New Riders, 2013. Don't worry about the title, or the modest qualifier "Almost" - I, at least, can't detect what he's left out. It includes using LR (LR 4 when he wrote the book), as well as a Chapter on SFX Pro2, amongst a whole lot else. That said, personally, I find the latest versions of LR thoroughly satisfactory for a high percentage of my B&W conversions.
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Somewhat OT, but I can also recommend Vincent Versace's "From Oz to Kansas - Almost Every Black and White Conversion Technique Known to Man", New Riders, 2013.
George Jardine's video is also excellent and free.
http://mulita.com/blog/a-few-thoughts-on-black-white-conversion-past-and-present/
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George Jardine's video is also excellent and free.
http://mulita.com/blog/a-few-thoughts-on-black-white-conversion-past-and-present/

The blog article containing the link to the video is from 2011, which is a long time ago for digital. For that matter, the Versace book is from 2013.

Any useful techniques to add since that info?
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The blog article containing the link to the video is from 2011, which is a long time ago for digital. For that matter, the Versace book is from 2013.

Any useful techniques to add since that info?
Yes! Ignore the date, examine the data!
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Re: Martin Evening article
« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2017, 11:57:10 am »

Thanks for linking to the interview John.

Hogarty says "What if Creative Cloud could start to learn from that work, and start to shortcut the effort I have to put into my images by creating something like an auto that’s tailored?" Talk about corporate claptrap. People who talk like that alienate themselves from language.

The irony of this statement with respect to this new machine learning technology is that we photographers will likely become alienated from the fruits of our work, in more ways than one. Who will own the "learning" that that a corporation does when it uses our creative work to improve their algorithms? They will, of course. Not us. That's the exact opposite of democracy, regardless of how Hogarty spins it.

And this is why it is shameful that they are charging us $10 to use a service (Lightroom CC in particular), while they leech our work once it goes into their cloud to train a service which they then re-sell to us. When Google, Apple, Facebook or other companies do it, it is debatable as well but at least they are giving you a free product. It is similar to how I believe CaptureOne is also logging data regarding your images (I believe DxO asks you for permission first but it could be the other way around).
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The blog article containing the link to the video is from 2011, which is a long time ago for digital. For that matter, the Versace book is from 2013.
Any useful techniques to add since that info?

For B&W nothing new (maybe linked SOs), but I had already written up all the new techniques in 2012 :). I don't know if Vincent also noticed them. In any case, software techniques are less important than developing an understanding of how to use whatever techniques may be available. And Ansel wrote that up.
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George Jardine's video is also excellent and free.
http://mulita.com/blog/a-few-thoughts-on-black-white-conversion-past-and-present/

Thanks for the link, Andrew.

For those of you who have gone to the blog posting, please note that I have made all these videos open, meaning... no need to enter your e-mail address. You'll find direct links to the B&W video on this page, as well as a bunch of other stuff that I hope you'll find useful.

https://mulita.com/blog/free-videos/

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The blog article containing the link to the video is from 2011, which is a long time ago for digital. For that matter, the Versace book is from 2013.

Any useful techniques to add since that info?
George Jardine's videos are also some of the best on how to think about adjustments in LR. If you can nail the thinking behind the sliders, behind what you are doing, that seems to me half the battle.
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