Started by Michael Erlewine, July 25, 2017, 01:19:52 am
Quote from: Jim Kasson on August 10, 2017, 06:31:33 pmIf that's all there is, that's pretty thin gruel. Not like the PowerPoints for the larger sensors at all. But then again, they have to be sold to camera manufacturers, at least for now.Jim
Quote from: BernardLanguillier on August 11, 2017, 03:55:45 pmIt looks like it was designed per your own personnal specs Michael. Cheers,Bernard
Quote from: BernardLanguillier on August 11, 2017, 04:32:19 pmThe D850 really looks like the last DSLR anyone would ever need prior to a full transition to mirrorless when all the technological building blocks will really be ready for uncompromised photography.Thanks to Nikon for continuying to push the bar forward.A close friend not really interested in photography till date asked me advise yesterday about what high end camera he should be buying. He started by asking me about D500/D750, I pushed him towards the a7rIIi... he tried it and his comments were... what a terrible viewfinder, what a poor UI.Since video was important to him also, I advised him to look at Canon too, and he is now hesitating betwn a 5DIV today or waiting for the D850 in a few months...It reminded me of all the compromises mirrorless shooters have been accepting with the current generation of bodies.Cheers,Bernard
Quote from: shadowblade on August 11, 2017, 04:59:18 pmHave you tried the A9 yet? All those issues are fixed, and the viewfinder is more functional than I've seen in any SLR. The only reason I don't own one is because 24MP isn't nearly enough for my needs.Even with the A7r2, I never had a problem with the UI or the viewfinder. The rear LCD is great, and very easy to use. Come to think of it, I don't think I ever actually looked through the viewfinder, or took a shot without a tripod...
Quote from: Michael Erlewine on August 11, 2017, 07:18:08 pmPerhaps a very real remaining worry is that the dynamic range of the D850 will not match the D810, which puts those of us into landscape and nature photos in a bind. Any thoughts on this?
Quote from: BernardLanguillier on August 11, 2017, 05:21:04 pmNo need to try to convince me, I am just reporting a totally unbiased feedback from someone who has zero pre-existing brand or technology preference. Granted, he tried that a7rII but the a9 is too expensive for him.To your question, I have myself not tried the a9 yet either. I am personnally not interested since it is overall IMHO mostly a downgrade from my D5 for my action photography needs centered about AF performance on moving subjects with pro grade tele lenses. I may have added one to my line up had it been more affordable, but not at its current price point. I have much better ways to spend 5,000 US$ + lenses cost, starting with my new packraft. Cheers,Bernard
Quote from: shadowblade on August 11, 2017, 08:17:41 pmOnly until someone develops a Nikon-to-Sony adapter that works well with all Nikon lenses.Then it'd be just like what many Canon shooters have been doing for years - use an ultra-high-resolution, high-DR Sony body for nonmoving subjects, while keeping the D850 for moving subjects (and as a second body for landscapes), using the Nikon lenses on both bodies. It's not like you need AF when shooting landscapes, so carrying a D850 along with an A7r3 or A9r would be no more difficult than carrying a D850 with a backup Nikon body. It's not an ideal solution, but it's very workable.Even if the D850 keeps up DR-wise, this may end up being a good option for dedicated landscape photographers who want a camera with the greatest possible resolution on a full-frame camera, as well as the use of a few UWAs and tilt-shifts that can't be put onto a Nikon camera.
Quote from: BernardLanguillier on August 11, 2017, 09:19:18 pmFuture will tell, my view remains that Nikon will release a body above the D850 for higher res applcations.As far as T/S lenses go, the current reference is the Nikon 19mm.Cheers,Bernard
Quote from: shadowblade on August 11, 2017, 09:32:24 pmA single 19mm lens won't get you very far. It fills pretty much the same role as Canon's 17mm.But Nikon's 24mm tilt-shift doesn't hold a candle to Canon's, and 24mm is likely a far more used focal length (either for single frames or for shift-stitching). And Canon looks set to release new 50mm, 90mm and 135mm tilt-shifts in the next few months. Given that whose top-tier lens in any given category is sharper tends to correlate strongly with which one is newer, these new lenses should be very sharp indeed.
Quote from: siddhaarta on August 11, 2017, 10:16:28 pmInteresting question. If the rumors are right that this is a upscaled D500 sensor (pixelpitch seems to confirm that), maybe this site helps to have an idea:Dynamik RangeThat would mean, 1 stop less than the D810 at base ISO. But sure, the final result will depend on other factors .... time will tell
Quote from: BernardLanguillier on August 11, 2017, 04:32:19 pmSince video was important to him also, I advised him to look at Canon too, and he is now hesitating betwn a 5DIV today or waiting for the D850 in a few months...It reminded me of all the compromises mirrorless shooters have been accepting with the current generation of bodies.Cheers,Bernard
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