Started by Michael Erlewine, July 25, 2017, 01:19:52 am
Quote from: shadowblade on October 03, 2017, 04:11:19 pmA 105mm lens is useless if you need 100mm or 120mm, let alone 70mm or 200mm. You need a lens that fits the scene and angle of view you're shooting. If you have to go looking for a scene that fits your lens each time, you won't get very far and will miss a lot of shots.
Quote from: BernardLanguillier on October 03, 2017, 05:19:53 pmThe application drove the choice of the lens this time around, I was on a sailing boat and wanted to benefit from stabilization.But the 70-200 f2.8 E FL is better than most primes I have used anyway, in the very same ballpark as the 105mm f1.4.
Quote from: Jim Kasson on October 03, 2017, 04:54:35 pmI am speechless. The only situation in which I can imagine a 105 being useless in which a 100 would work fine is a subject where getting further back is not possible and I needed the slight additional FOV to get what I wanted into the picture.I've been using 105's on FF cameras since the 60s. In all that time I have never said to myself, "I wish I had a 100 on the camera now." I suppose it could happen tomorrow, but I think that's a big, big reach. I use primes about 85% of the time.Jim
Quote from: StephenStarkman on October 03, 2017, 11:29:39 pmSorry, that's just ridiculous - sounds like an argument for the sake of arguing. Just my opinion.Stephen
Quote from: shadowblade on October 03, 2017, 11:35:58 pmSo, what are you going to do when you're shooting from a bridge or a cliff-hugging trail, and need 90mm or 100mm? Shoot with your 55mm and crop? Or shoot with the 105mm and end up with a composition that's too zoomed in (possibly even losing the edges of it if it's tight)?
Quote from: kers on October 04, 2017, 02:34:50 ammake a stitch
Quote from: BernardLanguillier on October 03, 2017, 12:28:57 pmD850 + 70-200mm f2.8 E FLThe D850 colors may be its strongest point!Cheers,Bernard
Quote from: BernardLanguillier on October 04, 2017, 06:15:12 amJust to be clear, I own both the 105mm f1.4, that I consider to be the best portrait lens on the market, and the 70-200 f2.8 E FL.They are close optically but the 105mm f1.4 has a magic at f1.4 and close reach that is unique, while remaining excellent technically. The 105mm f1.4 caused me to sell my beloved Otus 85mm f1.4.The 70-200 is faster AF wise, as fast as the super teles in my experience, stabilized and obviously offers the flexibility of the zoom. It is also fully weather proofed and is really a no brainer for the kind of sailing applications I was dealing with. Per my quick initial assessment, my hit ration of perfectly focused images on a moving platform is in excess of 90%... and that is without having had to do any focus calibration.I have found my copy of the 105mm f1.4 to require some focus calibration on all my bodies and the AF isn't as fast unfortunately.Two amazing tool standing at the very pinacle of optics.If I were to pick one I'd probably get the 70-200 f2.8 E FL, it is that good.Cheers,Bernard
Quote from: S@W on October 04, 2017, 05:57:07 amMoreover I find zoom lenses distracting and far prefer the 'liberating constraints' of shooting with a prime. When a prime is mounted on my body my eye start to frame like it and it makes it easier to find a nice shot. Of course sometimes I miss some opportunities but the balance is still far more positive.
Quote from: BernardLanguillier on October 04, 2017, 02:37:00 amIndeed, I carried only my Zeiss 100mm f2.0 and a pano head for a few years back in the days. Some of my favorite images were captured with the set up. Once you get used to stitching this way it becomes so easy that you just do it.Cheers,Bernard
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