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Rob C

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« Reply #100 on: October 06, 2017, 10:39:12 am »

He did discuss trends extensively with his brother, as well as with fellow artists, but eventually decided that what people wanted was not what he wanted (to paint).
Good for us, not so good for him, I suppose.


The secret is to be hot when you're alive.

But that's not enough: you have to remain hot, which is mechanically difficult as you run out of steam.

Not directly connected, I think, though it might be: there's a world of difference between an intellectual approach to one's oeuvre and a spiritual one. Perhaps, as with the rest of us, Vince might have been better advised to adopt the intellectual one. And there's the rub: how do you overcome one side of your nature with reason when half of yourself isn't reasonable? Do you even have a 50:50 chance of pulling it off?

Picasso pulled it off, but then he was from Malaga and left to l¡ve in France, which shows you he knew a good thing when he saw it.

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« Reply #101 on: October 06, 2017, 04:29:42 pm »

I fully admit that I take photos not because I’m in any way driven to but because it sharpens my perceptual skills. And it’s a technical challenge too, which my analytically-oriented brain enjoys. Also the doing of it, the heightened state of awareness that sometimes happens, is pleasurable.

People like van Gogh fascinate and delight me both because they’re so throughly other to my own experience and also because their particular kind of otherness leads to such outpourings of creative richness. Even as it often eats them up.

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« Reply #102 on: October 07, 2017, 06:12:51 am »

I fully admit that I take photos not because I’m in any way driven to but because it sharpens my perceptual skills. And it’s a technical challenge too, which my analytically-oriented brain enjoys. Also the doing of it, the heightened state of awareness that sometimes happens, is pleasurable.

People like van Gogh fascinate and delight me both because they’re so throughly other to my own experience and also because their particular kind of otherness leads to such outpourings of creative richness. Even as it often eats them up.

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In which way do you find photography a technical challenge? Digital has removed most of the challenges that filmies had to learn to handle - not overcome, because one can't do the impossible - but certainly one did learn to appreciate the limits and perhaps use them to some degree of effect - or even as a signature style, in some cases.

Perceptual skills? They lie as the foundations of the visual arts. Without them already in place, one hasn't a prayer. But yes, there can be no doubt that during the doing, there is a huge surge of buzz; I used to find the end of a good studio session always left me flat, and I had to drive myself to go into the darkroom to process what I was being paid to do: the business was simply the means of financing my love for the world of fashion and calendar art; the end of a great trip was even worse: all I could think of doing was planning some way of doing the next one. On the other hand, there had been some that couildn't end quickly enough for me. But they were rare, thank God.

I remember being near Glasgow Airport one day and looking up at some aircraft going somewhere and knowing that there was nothing known ahead that was going to get me up there. I never enjoyed flying very much, but what it signified, which was not holidays, was huge in my life and dreams.

Your observation that creative richness can be destructive is all too true. There are many such causualties. Unfortunately, artistic talent alone is not the key to success in life.

;-(

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Re: (Semi) Minimalism (open thread)
« Reply #103 on: October 07, 2017, 04:20:40 pm »

In which way do you find photography a technical challenge? Digital has removed most of the challenges that filmies had to learn to handle - not overcome, because one can't do the impossible - but certainly one did learn to appreciate the limits and perhaps use them to some degree of effect - or even as a signature style, in some cases.

One reason I’ve returned to the Leicas for general pic taking is that they require you to do more. During my last trail walk I gave myself a brief: take photos in bright daylight with a wide open fast lens and mostly place the point of focus well off-center (focus & recompose). This made me work harder, which made the process (and my walk) more enjoyable. I looked at my surroundings differently. I took a selfie in a toilet.  :D

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« Reply #104 on: October 08, 2017, 01:03:49 pm »

One reason I’ve returned to the Leicas for general pic taking is that they require you to do more. During my last trail walk I gave myself a brief: take photos in bright daylight with a wide open fast lens and mostly place the point of focus well off-center (focus & recompose). This made me work harder, which made the process (and my walk) more enjoyable. I looked at my surroundings differently. I took a selfie in a toilet.  :D

-Dave-

Then you chose the wrong weapon: I've set my two old diggies up to as close as dammit filmic control just to uncomplicate my life. However, if you want complex, revert back to digital modes and those two mothers can offer more complications than a typewriter gone wrong. They could offer you as much difficulty as any masochist could possibly dream about. You could even throw in chimping, just to round off the steps to each shot.

The one digital camera blessing I swear by, and not at, is Nikon's Matrix metering.

;-)

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« Reply #105 on: October 08, 2017, 01:54:02 pm »

The turning of the seasons
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« Reply #106 on: October 08, 2017, 02:14:10 pm »

Very beautiful, Oscar.

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« Reply #107 on: October 08, 2017, 03:25:08 pm »

Then you chose the wrong weapon: I've set my two old diggies up to as close as dammit filmic control just to uncomplicate my life. However, if you want complex, revert back to digital modes and those two mothers can offer more complications than a typewriter gone wrong. They could offer you as much difficulty as any masochist could possibly dream about. You could even throw in chimping, just to round off the steps to each shot.

Eeek, no.  :)  Don’t want complex. Simple requires more fundamental work but it’s engaging & enjoyable work. For the same reason I can’t abide knob-laden guitar amps or programmable multi-effect gizmos. Give me a simple amp and a handful of floor pedals with two or three controls each, no presets, and I’m a happy guy.

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« Reply #108 on: October 08, 2017, 03:27:10 pm »

The turning of the seasons

Lovely! A superior take on something I tried some weeks ago but never captured to my satisfaction.

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« Reply #109 on: October 08, 2017, 05:03:48 pm »

Very beautiful, Oscar.

Rob
+1.

Around where I live there is no good Fall color yet. Many leaves have just turned dark brown and fallen off without turning colorful first. All because of drought.
I hope we get some color from the remaining leaves soon.   :(

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« Reply #110 on: October 08, 2017, 06:00:42 pm »

There is a beautiful public park about a hundred or hundred and fifty yards from where I used to live in Glasgow. The trees were very tall and very old - the place was once a private estate complete with mansion house later k-o'd when the local govt. took it over and realised what it cost to maintain. No more house, and some of the trees have been blown down. But, when I lived there, the autumn colours were fantastic to behold. I did shoot some Kodachromes for stock, but it wasn't the sort of stuff that made money: too easy and also free. The agency wanted lifestyle... Sadly, as with all the rest of the stuff I binned when I departed that scene, nothing left to play with today.

The park also has a boating pond with islands with swans, and yet more trees and colours. Some places really do have charm, though I don't think it came with nature - I think the original estate owners must have designed it all. Them wuz the dys... makes me wonder how clever the punitive death duties the socialist governments like to gift the rich really are; we lose so much when old money is crushed to serve public desires for permanent political capìtal. I guess envy never dies.

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« Reply #111 on: October 09, 2017, 03:59:52 pm »

In the US anyway estate issues are easy-peasy to deal with, provided you as the primary estate holder are part of a stable & functional family and are capable of acknowledging your own mortality. (Obviously neither of these are givens!  :) ) You simply make your beneficiaries co-owners of whatever they’d otherwise inherit. No muss, no fuss, no tax.

Wishaw, where my mom grew up, has a number of little parks such as you describe, Rob. My cousins and I spent hours & hours playing in them.

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« Reply #112 on: October 09, 2017, 06:57:16 pm »

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« Reply #113 on: October 10, 2017, 10:49:33 am »

+2
You managed to incorporate the urban with nature. Well done and interesting juxtaposition of elements.

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« Reply #114 on: October 10, 2017, 10:52:11 am »

I took this one before I went on vacation last week. Noticed the two different light patterns and had to photograph it before I left.

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« Reply #115 on: October 10, 2017, 11:16:12 am »

And one from my trip:

JR



(edit: found I was on blue screen mode and colours were ghastly!)
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« Reply #116 on: October 10, 2017, 12:25:51 pm »

an ethereal horizon 7,500 ft above sea level
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« Reply #117 on: October 10, 2017, 12:56:45 pm »

an ethereal horizon 7,500 ft above sea level
Quite bold of you to photograph something we all don't think twice about. You have to enlarge the image to see the wispy parts and get a sense of the feathery light clouds and natural colour sky.

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« Reply #118 on: October 12, 2017, 01:00:07 am »

Lamp and window light...series, sort of...

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« Reply #119 on: October 12, 2017, 09:38:15 am »

My only nit on this one, John, is that it pushes the limits of "semi-minimalism" a bit, where the previous one doesn't.
But I still like this one, too. The small visual changes change the mood very substantially. Both are good.

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