Trump II

[kers]

But the truth is....


that scientists were pushing climate change before Trump...

It's become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

and Alan - you should become a standup comedian...

[Alan Klein]

US government burying head deeper in sand on climate change
An apparently widespread effort to ignore reality by the federal government.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/us-government-burying-head-deeper-in-sand-on-climate-change/




QUOTE   "It's no secret that President Trump came into office rejecting the conclusions of the vast majority of the world's scientists when it comes to our changing climate. But it wasn't clear how that would translate to policy. At least some of his advisors, as well as his daughter, accept the conclusions of the scientific community. And there was the possibility that policy decisions would be constrained by reality, as Trump was sworn in as the most recent global temperature records were set.

Over the past few weeks, however, it has become increasingly clear that there has been extensive push back against climate change throughout the government, with several push backs occurring in the last week alone. We'll review those briefly below.
[...]
This week saw the long-delayed release of the Department of Energy's evaluation of grid stability. The report was commissioned by Energy Secretary Rick Perry, who suggested that the expansion of renewable energy was undermining the reliability of electricity delivery. Back in June, however, a draft of the expert evaluation leaked, and it stated that the US grid was now more reliable than it had been in recent decades. Those conclusions, however, were watered down in the final report.

But the report is also notable for avoiding the use of the term "climate change" anywhere in its 125 pages. This is despite the fact that increased heat will boost demand and stress grid hardware and that climate change is currently driving state-level energy policies. In fact, the report recommends the anti-solution of increasing the use of coal-fired power plants."
[...]
It's not just the DOE that seems to have issue with this area of science. Perhaps the most significant move happened at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). NOAA is one of the organizers of a congressionally mandated national climate assessment, and it maintained a 15-person advisory committee intended to help the business community as well as state and local governments use the assessment for planning. In other words, the committee was intended to help the nation decide how best to act on the information contained in a scientific report.

The committee was formed in 2016 in expectation of the completion of the next climate assessment, due this year. Last week, however, its charter expired and the Trump administration decided not to renew it.

Meanwhile, the assessment itself has become a battleground. Drafts of the assessment have been through scientific peer review and have been circulated widely. They largely echo the conclusion of other scientific evaluations of the climate, such as the IPCC's.

But Scott Pruitt, head of the EPA (one of the organizations tasked with writing the assessment), is now threatening to derail its formal release.

Cheers,
Bart

The American people elected a president who ran on putting jobs and the economy ahead of the effects of it getting warmer.   They feel that putting food on the table is more important.  They rejected Obama's former policies of shutting down coal mines, ending leasing of off-shore drilling, stopping the XL pipeline, etc.   Trump's voters may be wrong.  But that's what they supported.  Elections have consequences. 

[Rob C]

The American people elected a president who ran on putting jobs and the economy ahead of the effects of it getting warmer.   They feel that putting food on the table is more important.  They rejected Obama's former policies of shutting down coal mines, ending leasing of off-shore drilling, stopping the XL pipeline, etc.   Trump's voters may be wrong.  But that's what they supported.  Elections have consequences.

Fly that in Texas now.

[Chris Kern]

Elections have consequences.

And, as a number of Trump voters apparently are discovering, sometimes unintended consequences.

[Otto Phocus]

Is there a law against calling presidents Big Orange Dummies?   After all. 

No, there are, however laws against threats against the president.  There are military laws under the UCMJ that prohibit disrespectful actions against the president. But no, there are no laws preventing ordinary citizens from addressing the president in disrespectful terms.  A good thing as over the past administrations, probably 75% of the population would be in prison.

[Alan Klein]

Fly that in Texas now.

Trump should build the wall on the Gulf Coast instead of the Mexican border.

[Alan Klein]

No, there are, however laws against threats against the president.  There are military laws under the UCMJ that prohibit disrespectful actions against the president. But no, there are no laws preventing ordinary citizens from addressing the president in disrespectful terms.  A good thing as over the past administrations, probably 75% of the population would be in prison.

I doubt if the Secret Service is keeping up with investigating threats against Trump.  It's never been this bad. 

[Alan Klein]

More biased liberal news in Great Britain.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-29/fox-stops-airing-fox-news-in-u-k-as-sky-takeover-decision-looms

[Peter McLennan]

These two photographs say more about the "Presidentialness" of the first family than a zillion pages of this thread ever could. 
Black stiletto heels on Air Force One, and USA and FLOTUS ball caps?  Really?

clicking on the first image several times allows you to view both of them sequentially

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/29/us/trump-texas-harvey.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=thumb&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region

[Peter McLennan]

More biased liberal news in Great Britain.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-29/fox-stops-airing-fox-news-in-u-k-as-sky-takeover-decision-looms

“We have concluded that it is not in our commercial interest to continue providing Fox News in the U.K.,” 21st Century Fox said by email Tuesday. “Fox News is focused on the U.S. market and designed for a U.S. audience and, accordingly, it averages only a few thousand viewers across the day in the U.K.”

How surprising.

[Alan Klein]

These two photographs say more about the "Presidentialness" of the first family than a zillion pages of this thread ever could. 
Black stiletto heels on Air Force One, and USA and FLOTUS ball caps?  Really?

clicking on the first image several times allows you to view both of them sequentially

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/29/us/trump-texas-harvey.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=thumb&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region

Real Texas men might prefer cowgirl boots.   But definitely heels over flip flops. 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

...   Black stiletto heels on Air Force One...

What was she supposed to wear, rubber fins?

[Schewe]

I doubt if the Secret Service is keeping up with investigating threats against Trump.  It's never been this bad.

I think that's an assumption that likely would not be true if the SS would actually give out numbers...I'm pretty sure Obama had a lot more threats than Trump may have had because, well, you know, liberals don't tend to have guns. I don't see a lot of ant-gun liberals out there making death death threats but I suspect a lot of radical right racial wingnutz who support the 2nd amendment were a bit more likely to make death threats against Obama. Maybe they were empty threats, but the SS can't assume that.

[Alan Klein]

I think that's an assumption that likely would not be true if the SS would actually give out numbers...I'm pretty sure Obama had a lot more threats than Trump may have had because, well, you know, liberals don't tend to have guns. I don't see a lot of ant-gun liberals out there making death death threats but I suspect a lot of radical right racial wingnutz who support the 2nd amendment were a bit more likely to make death threats against Obama. Maybe they were empty threats, but the SS can't assume that.

Wasn't there an official who suggested that Trump should be assassinated?  That stuff didn't happen much with Obama.  It just seems that there are a lot of nasty things said about Trump on social media.  Can you imagine someone calling him the Skinny Tan Buffoon? 

[Schewe]

More biased liberal news in Great Britain.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-29/fox-stops-airing-fox-news-in-u-k-as-sky-takeover-decision-looms

How can you POSSIBLY claim biased liberal news on this story?

First off, it's a Bloomberg Business news story about a of an Australian media magnates attempt at taking over a UK media network. How is that either liberal or biased? The fact that Fox personal have been involved with sexual misconduct kinda doesn't go over well with the UK regulators so 21st Century Fox is bowing out of the UK TV news market–in which it was not really a major player anyway–which is why they are trying to take over Sky News which is.

So, what's your beef? Why would this possibly matter to you?

I know it must absolutely gall you that Rachel Maddow is beating Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity. Ouch, huh?



It must irritate the heck out of Sean Hannity that he has to go up against two gay TV show hosts; Rachel Maddow & Anderson Cooper. Poor little snowflake :~)

Rachel Maddow Ends August As No. 1 In Cable News

[Alan Klein]

How can you POSSIBLY claim biased liberal news on this story?

First off, it's a Bloomberg Business news story about a of an Australian media magnates attempt at taking over a UK media network. How is that either liberal or biased? The fact that Fox personal have been involved with sexual misconduct kinda doesn't go over well with the UK regulators so 21st Century Fox is bowing out of the UK TV news market–in which it was not really a major player anyway–which is why they are trying to take over Sky News which is.

So, what's your beef? Why would this possibly matter to you?

I know it must absolutely gall you that Rachel Maddow is beating Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity. Ouch, huh?



It must irritate the heck out of Sean Hannity that he has to go up against two gay TV show hosts; Rachel Maddow & Anderson Cooper. Poor little snowflake :~)

Rachel Maddow Ends August As No. 1 In Cable News

You have tho give Rachel credit.   She's beating him man to man.

[Peter McLennan]

You have tho give Rachel credit.   She's beating him man to man.

More vacuous asshole comments from the peanut gallery.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

You have tho give Rachel credit.   She's beating him man to man.

 

[Chris Kern]

I'm pretty sure Obama had a lot more threats than Trump may have had

Actually, no.  According to the Secret Service* director, the average number of six to eight threats/day has not changed with the transition of Obama to Trump.

Having observed their agents on protective duty from time to time, I'm also quite certain every threat or even potential threat is investigated.

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*For those of you outside the United States, the Secret Service is a law-enforcement agency of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (historically, it was part of the Treasury Department) that is responsible for prosecuting financial crimes such as counterfeiting of currency, as well as providing protection services for certain American and visiting foreign officials.

[texshooter]

What was she supposed to wear, rubber fins?

Something like that.