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Slobodan Blagojevic

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6560 on: October 01, 2017, 01:15:03 am »

Jeff, you finally posted something nice in this thread 😉

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6561 on: October 01, 2017, 01:25:20 am »

Worth a look!

President Trump calls San Juan mayor a 'nasty' woman in 'Saturday Night Live' season premiere


Saturday Night Live's President Trumps hangs up on San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz during her plea for help.  (NBC)
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If only Puerto Rico had invested in FEMA Prime.

That’s the heartless advice President Trump gave San Juan mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz as she pleaded for help in the season premiere of “Saturday Night Live.” “You should have paid your bills. FEMA takes a few days unless you join FEMA Prime,” Alec Baldwin said as the commander-in-chief.

Sporting the President’s traditional golf uniform during the cold open, Baldwin kicked off the 43rd season by strolling into the Oval Office after a weekend trip to his New Jersey golf club. He said he sacrificed the ninth hole to talk to Cruz, assuming she would compliment him on the “great job” he’s doing in Puerto Rico. The satire mirrored Cruz’s tragic but real plea for more federal disaster relief after the behemoth Hurricane Maria ravaged the island, knocking out power and depleting fresh water and food supplies.

Earlier on Saturday, President Trump lambasted the San Juan mayor for complaining about the lagging U.S. recovery response in her city.

“I’m begging you. Puerto Rico needs your help,” the show’s Cruz cried.

She reminded Baldwin’s Trump that Puerto Rico is U.S. territory, which prompted the President to hang up the phone and blast the mayor as “nasty.”
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Slobodan Blagojevic

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6563 on: October 01, 2017, 04:08:32 pm »

Once again, if Trump tweets and actions are "the best recruiting tool for ISIS," why is this happening in the oh, so liberal, oh, so inclusive, oh, so tolerant Canada?

"Five hurt as Edmonton attacks spark terror investigation"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/01/americas/edmonton-vehicle-attacks-investigation/index.html

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6564 on: October 01, 2017, 08:46:06 pm »

"No shots were fired", said police.
"This was a lone wolf incident", they added.

Suspect in custody.

A rather excellent result, here in the "oh so liberal, oh so tolerant, oh so inclusive Canada."

Read again, Slobodan, the part about "no shots were fired".

Also, no asshole tweets ensued.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6565 on: October 01, 2017, 09:25:42 pm »

... Read again, Slobodan, the part about "no shots were fired"...

That is supposed to mean something? The cop is lucky that he survived stabbing, for which no shots were needed. Also, the crowd he drove into with his van was lucky that nobody was killed, just wounded.

Besides, none of that has anything to do with the point I raised: why?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6566 on: October 01, 2017, 09:30:06 pm »

"No shots were fired", said police.
"This was a lone wolf incident", they added.

Typical weasel talk reporting.
"No shots fired" instead of stating the known facts about a deranged man who struck a police officer with a car before stabbing him and later plowed a truck into pedestrians on a busy street, injuring at least four people. The suspect is a male Somali national and refugee who was previously known to Edmonton police and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
Police have arrested the suspect before for several offenses, including participation in a terrorist act and the commission of an offense for a terrorist group, said Chief Rod Knecht of the Edmonton Police Service. The suspect was investigated in 2015 after police received a complaint he was "espousing extremist ideology," said RCMP Deputy Criminal Operations Officer Marlin Degrand, but there was insufficient evidence to pursue terrorism charges.

Then Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says: "We know that Canada's strength comes from our diversity".
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6567 on: October 01, 2017, 11:37:07 pm »

Then Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says: "We know that Canada's strength comes from our diversity".

I never realized how racist Canada was before they started letting in terrorists.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6568 on: October 02, 2017, 12:44:06 am »

So hypocritical European countries who criticized Trump's travel ban are now banning religious and cultural clothing of Muslims under the guise of civil order and defending against terrorism.  While in America, anyone can wear whatever they want. 
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/01/laws-to-force-acceptance-and-respect-of-austrian-values-take-effect/

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6569 on: October 02, 2017, 01:00:11 am »


Austria should just give it more time.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6570 on: October 02, 2017, 01:01:57 am »

While in America, anyone can wear whatever they want. 

Yeah, just don't kneel when you are wearing a football uniform...Freedom of Speech only goes so far, right?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6571 on: October 02, 2017, 01:21:12 am »

Yeah, just don't kneel when you are wearing a football uniform...Freedom of Speech only goes so far, right?
Liberals are the first ones to  try shut up anyone speaking who don't espouse their liberal views.  In any case, free speech is a two-way street.  You have a right to say what you want and I have a right to disagree.  Free speech is on both sides. 

Also, free speech is not constitutionally protected in private places or at work.  It's only protected in public.  Football players have to follow the rules of the NFL and the contracts they sign.  Even if there were no rules and they can do what they want, they are certainly allowed to do that.  But fans who find that disrespectful can espouse their free speech by refusing to buy tickets and watch the games on TV.   I suspect that the team managers had a heart to heart talk with the players reminding them that their salaries depend on profits.  Salaries can be lowered if profits go down.  Today, Sunday, was a big day for football.  I didn't watch.  But I'm curious what happened around the country during the anthems? 

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6572 on: October 02, 2017, 01:28:25 am »

Austria should just give it more time.


Hmmm.  Maybe the travel ban is  bad idea. Give me some time to re-think it.  :)

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6573 on: October 02, 2017, 01:44:25 am »

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Donald J. Trump ‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man...
7:30 AM - 1 Oct 2017


Donald J. Trump ‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
...Save your energy Rex, we'll do what has to be done!
7:31 AM - 1 Oct 2017


Trump Says Tillerson Is 'Wasting His Time' On Talks With North Korea

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The rhetoric between the U.S. and North Korea cooled for a day — and just a day only, it appears.

Roughly 24 hours after Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told reporters the U.S. has been engaged in diplomatic talks with Pyongyang, President Trump took to Twitter on Sunday to deride the effort — as well as Kim Jong Un.

"I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man," Trump tweeted, apparently using his preferred nickname to demean the North Korean dictator. "Save your energy Rex, we'll do what has to be done!"

"Being nice to Rocket Man hasn't worked in 25 years, why would it work now?" Trump added several hours later. "Clinton failed, Bush failed, and Obama failed. I won't fail."

Uh...ok...then why bother even having a Secretary of State if you are going to tell him to save his time and stand down...Daddy's gonna take fix it–as only Daddy can



Jeeesh...they're starting to look alike...
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6574 on: October 02, 2017, 01:59:00 am »

I didn't watch.  But I'm curious what happened around the country during the anthems?

NFL players continue protest in defiance of US President Donald Trump

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NFL players continued their anthem protests in defiance of US President Donald Trump in Sunday's matches.



About half of the San Francisco 49ers knelt for the anthem before their match at Arizona with their team-mates standing just behind with a hand on their colleagues' shoulders.



The Carolina Panthers' Cam Newton celebrated his touchdown against New England Patriots with a raised fist.

However, there were markedly fewer protests than last weekend.

Several games - such as the Dallas Cowboys' home game with the Los Angeles Rams - appeared to go ahead without any protest.

In the day's first game at Wembley, three Miami Dolphins - Julius Thomas, Michael Thomas and Kenny Stills - kneeled during the American anthem with the opposing New Orleans Saints squad opting to do so beforehand, but then standing while the anthem was played.

However, there were markedly fewer protests than last weekend.

Several games - such as the Dallas Cowboys' home game with the Los Angeles Rams - appeared to go ahead without any protest.

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And Kaepernick's former team - playing for the first time since Trump's initial condemnation of the protest - made the most co-ordinated gesture.

"For more than a year, members of our team have protested the oppression and social injustices still present in our society," read a statement from the 49ers' players, coaches, ownership and staff.

"While some may not have taken a knee or raised a fist, we have all shared the desire to influence positive change. Today, our team chose to publicly display our unity in a new way."

The statement added: "We use our platform as members of an NFL team, and our right to freedom of expression, to speak up for those whose voice is not heard."

So, we still have Free Speech here in America...
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6575 on: October 02, 2017, 02:21:08 am »

Trump's Puerto Rico response tests the limits of his fondness for grudges


To longtime Trump watchers, President Donald Trump’s personal reaction to criticism from San Juan
Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz was par for the course.


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The president has been criticized for personally attacking the mayor of San Juan amid a growing
humanitarian crisis, but it's in line with how he's always responded to critics.


President Donald Trump may not have a cohesive foreign policy doctrine or any clear ideological underpinning for his domestic agenda.

But he has a firm personal outlook on life that has driven him as a businessman, a candidate and now as president — one he outlined succinctly at an early campaign stop in Dubuque, Iowa, last year. “When people treat me unfairly,” he warned, “I don’t let them forget it.”

Until this weekend, when Trump spent two days engaging in a personal feud with the mayor of San Juan, Trump’s “grudge presidency” had not been tested by a humanitarian crisis in which lives were being lost in real time — and where there was no natural constituency for his explosion of grievances.

“We have done a great job with the almost impossible situation in Puerto Rico,” the president tweeted Sunday morning from his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. “Outside of the Fake News or politically motivated ingrates, people are now starting to recognize the amazing work that has been done by FEMA and our great Military.”

The message followed a series of tweets on Saturday lashing out at Carmen Yulín Cruz, the mayor of San Juan, accusing her of “such poor leadership ability” in not getting people on the ground to help. It was a direct response to her emotional news conference Friday night, in which she begged the president for more help. “We are dying here,” Cruz said, slamming down two thick binders of documentation that San Juan had provided to the Federal Emergency Management Agency to obtain help.

In another world, Cruz’s frustration with the layers of bureaucracy standing between her wiped-out city and food and water delivery might have been in line with Trump’s own interest in cutting regulations and red tape. The props she used were similar to charts Trump has wielded at news conferences to demonstrate how obtuse the country’s permitting and regulatory process can be. But Cruz’s plea was interpreted by Trump as a personal insult.

“I am asking the president of the United States to make sure somebody is in charge, that is up to the task of saving lives,” she said. “If anybody out there is listening to us, we are dying, and you are killing us with the inefficiency.”

On Twitter, Trump noted that Cruz had been “very complimentary” to him in the past. “They want everything to be done for them,” he complained, “when it should be a community effort.”

To longtime Trump watchers, Trump’s personal reaction to Cruz was par for the course. Last weekend, he revoked an invitation for NBA star Stephen Curry to visit the White House with his team after Curry slighted him by saying he did not want the team to make the trip.

From the perch of the presidency, he has gone after morning show hosts such as Mika Brzezinski; lawmakers from his own party, such as Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain; and members of his own Cabinet — most notably, Attorney General Jeff Sessions. He has even taken on the NFL.

Trump's criticism of Cruz was in line with how he has reacted for years to individuals who have criticized him personally.

This is not the sort of behavior the President of the United States should engage in...which leads to this...

Trump's whiplash weekend heightens questions over leadership

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(CNN)In the span of seventy-two hours, President Donald Trump has fumed and fired a health chief with a penchant for taxpayer-funded private jets, bragged about a recovery process in Puerto Rico that bears little resemblance to reality on the ground, lashed the mayor of the island's capital city for questioning the federal response, and viewed a golf tournament from the "commissioner's suite" at a country club that costs $500,000 to join.

The whiplash weekend just past the eight-month mark of Trump's presidency reflects an administration still dictated by the personal whims of the President, who aides and friends describe as continually agitated by a series of unfulfilled campaign promises and convinced the counsel from his hired hands has steered him woefully off course.

As Trump settled into another weekend at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club, the questions about his competence as leader grew louder. Widespread suffering on Puerto Rico has been unmatched by the rhetoric coming from the White House, where the recovery effort is described in far rosier terms.

Questions about Trump's leadership are not new, but the unmet needs of Puerto Rico — the majority of the island is without power, while drinking water and fuel remain scarce — have placed his shirking of presidential norms into sharper relief than ever..
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6576 on: October 02, 2017, 02:39:08 am »

Trump's firing of the Republican alligator Secretary Price is in accordance with his draining the swamp mandate.  And he didn't waste any time doing it. It shows he isn't going to play favorites and he's holding his own people's feet to the fire.  That's refreshing and is appreciated by non-supporters as well as supporters.  If anyone else had taken advantage of their position, the word is out to straighten out or you'll be thrown out. 

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6577 on: October 02, 2017, 02:44:29 am »

So hypocritical European countries who criticized Trump's travel ban are now banning religious and cultural clothing of Muslims under the guise of civil order and defending against terrorism.  While in America, anyone can wear whatever they want. 
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/01/laws-to-force-acceptance-and-respect-of-austrian-values-take-effect/
So what, we still let them in ;)

And we don't force our citizens to stand with their hand on their heart at the beginning of sports matches. To each their own.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6578 on: October 02, 2017, 02:50:45 am »

If anyone else had taken advantage of their position, the word is out to straighten out or you'll be thrown out.

Trump should look in the mirror...

Donald Trump vowed to 'drain the swamp' – yet he uses Air Force One like an Uber


Donald Trump waves as he walks down the steps of Air Force One

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...Trump hadn’t exactly set a good example himself, using Air Force One like a flying car service to get him to Mar-a-Lago and other choice properties he owns at weekends. Air Force One is not Uber, though. Just taking that thing out of the hangar once probably cost more than all of Price’s little tripettes combined...

Well, it costs about $200,000 an hour to fly Air Force One, the plane president typically travels on when flying. There's also the cost of flying the presidential limousine or SUV to Trump's destination ahead of time so he can be whisked away when he lands. So, Trump is filling his part of the swamp as fast as he's trying to pump other parts out...(if, that is, you believe he's trying to drain the swamp rather than simply repopulate it with his friends and supporters)
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6579 on: October 02, 2017, 05:16:37 am »

Once again, if Trump tweets and actions are "the best recruiting tool for ISIS," why is this happening in the oh, so liberal, oh, so inclusive, oh, so tolerant Canada?

Once again, why is this happening in the USA?
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooter/index.html

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