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shadowblade

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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #260 on: June 17, 2017, 09:16:02 am »

Not comparing Nikon vs Canon here. I'm comparing primes vs zooms.

The point is, the top-tier UWA lens is a zoom - beating out all the primes - and the previous one was also a zoom (the 14-24 is still my choice for night landscapes containing stars, given its f/2.8 aperture and near-complete lack of coma). So the guy saying the Nikon 70-200 is the only zoom he'd use must either never use UWAs or is irrationally prejudiced against zooms in spite of actual performance.

(Incidentally, the Canon 70-200 is also about due for an update - improved CA and a seven- or nine-bladed aperture would be the most obvious upgrades)
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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #261 on: June 17, 2017, 12:55:50 pm »

Sharpness-wise, I agree with you.

However, there is a certain "rendering" that primes accomplish (a 3D look) that zooms don't usually seem to be able to duplicate. I think that's what the author means.

Also, the Canon 11-24 does not beat out "all" the UWA primes: the Zeiss 15mm Distagon T* (and, now, Milvus) beat it handily.

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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #262 on: June 17, 2017, 03:53:12 pm »

The Nikon 14-24 has better edge sharpness than the Distagon 15. Slightly more CA and distortion, though, but less coma for starscapes.
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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #263 on: June 17, 2017, 04:26:19 pm »

The Zeiss has a front-filter thread, without the same bulbous front-end element of ether the Canon or the Nikkor.
(Which is a double-edged sword. While allowing for filters, using them created very bad vignetting in all but the thinnest, highest-quality filters.)

Further, the rendering (contrast and color) of the Zeiss handily out-performs the Nikkor (or Canon) as does its resistance to flare.

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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #264 on: June 17, 2017, 05:13:18 pm »

Not comparing Nikon vs Canon here. I'm comparing primes vs zooms.

Got your point.

I would tend to agree for wides.

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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #265 on: June 17, 2017, 05:32:22 pm »

Filters on the 14-24 and vignetting?? 

With the right filters you should not see any vignetting. Lee or NISI 150 x 150.

I use the NISI and hitech glass 150 x 150 with the Lee sw150 no problems with vignetting. 2 filters.

Actually I now prefer the larger glass sheet as they are much easier to handle than larger screw ins.

The 15mm distagon is a great lens but massive and has very poor coma correction wide open. I also feel the 14-24 has a better hyperfocal range than the Zeiss.

BTW. Welcome back John.

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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #266 on: June 17, 2017, 11:39:41 pm »

Thanks Paul.

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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #267 on: June 18, 2017, 07:59:08 am »

Really guys...we are bringing out the lumber and comparing who's is bigger? Surely we can all make great photos from any of the professional level lenses no matter what manufacturer. This is not what has Nikon in financial trouble. Better high end gear is not what will rescue Nikon.
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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #268 on: June 18, 2017, 08:00:43 am »

Really guys...we are bringing out the lumber and comparing who's is bigger? Surely we can all make great photos from any of the professional level lenses no matter what manufacturer. This is not what has Nikon in financial trouble.

What exactly has compared to Canon?

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Re: Nikon in difficulty?
« Reply #269 on: June 18, 2017, 09:15:43 am »

What exactly has compared to Canon?

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Don't understand what you wrote.
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