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RISKAS

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« on: June 10, 2006, 03:11:25 pm »

I have a canon 300d with a ef-s 18-55 and a ef 75-300.
Should i buy the ef 24-70 or the ef 24-105?
May you help me?I already saw all the reviews about this two lenses,but i'm still confused.I'm a musicien,so i'm travelling around the world on Tour since last year.
I shoot the places,the people,the crew at work,some parts of our show,instant shots of the moments we have,well a little bit of every things. And i don't like to use flash. Only during the day,because of the shadows. My 300d can shoot at 3200 ISO.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2006, 03:40:15 pm »

I have both, and use depends on circumstances.  As a walking around lens the 24-105 is great.  On your camera the vignetting that some ff folks complain about won't be an issue.  

I'd say it boils down to how often you have a moving subject in your shot.  The more movement in the shot the more you need the fast 2.8 and the less value the IS on the 24-105 is.

You've read the reviews so you know the 24-70 is more expensive, heavier, no IS, narrower range of fl - so the only thing it's got going for it is the speed.

FWIW I use 3200 only under very exceptional circumstances and 1600 only slightly more often (1d2).  High ISO is not a substitute for a fast lens.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2006, 08:06:33 pm »

Riskas,

Unless you have the Rolling Stones lighting buget F4 is not enough for live work, even 2.8 isn't fast enough for some lighting..
The IS will steady the lens but not the subject so is only going to help a bit..

I shoot a lot of live work and use the 16-35 2.8 and the 70-200 2.8 IS most of the time, if the lighting is really arty (think almost no lights) I use fast primes.

I agree with Tim Grey about high ISO vs a fast lens and only shoot above 1000 ISO if there's no other choice..
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2006, 08:10:21 pm »

Thanks,all of you.I'm starting see the light!But my great passion are persons.I like catch them when they don't expected,i like portraits,among my friends or in holidays i'm always trying to catch peculiar moments.
So,and forgive my persistence,what should i use: 24-70 or 24-105,and only one of these.
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Riskas
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2006, 09:34:09 pm »

24-70
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2006, 01:24:40 pm »

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Having tried both lenses on a 5D and 1D2, I fully second your recommandation!
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2006, 06:29:17 pm »

Thanks for the help!
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2006, 04:36:23 am »

The 24-70 is a lot heavier. On a small and light camera like the 300D I'd certainly go for the 24-105.
Can you try both in a store?
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2006, 12:58:21 pm »

I own the 24-70 f:2.8 and absolutely love it for landscapes. However, the 70 mm long end is simply too short for portrait work. The combination of near-wide angle perspective and short working distances just doesn't work if you're doing a lot of people pix. I end up turning to the 85 mm f:1.8 for almost all of my portrait work; sometimes I go for the 70-200 f:2.8 if I need more reach.
So if people were my main area of interest, I would absolutely go for the 24-105 lens as my first choice. The extra 35 mm reach at the long end is critical.
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Oops. I should have specified that I use a Canon Eos-1Ds II almost exclusively, and on this camera the 24-70 is definitely too short for people. On the APS-C sensor cameras the effective ~110 mm focal length is just fine for portraits. On the other hand, the smaller sensor will nullify the vignetting some people notice with the 24-105, and that extra reach is always welcome.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2006, 01:49:16 pm »

Hi Riskas,

Like Tim, I also have both lenses on a 1DsII & 1DII.  Since you are using a 1.6x crop factor camera, the 24-70 will probably work fine for portraits, people, etc.   And if low light performance is a priority, the extra stop is going to be useful.  

I would probably go the 24-70 route based on what you've posted.  You might want to look for a good, clean used sample, as some folks have "retired" their 24-70 for the 24-105, although I'm keeping both for sure.   "IF" you were using a 5D, I'd say go with the 24-105 as the noise at ISO 800 is remarkably low compared to even my 1II series cameras & I suspect the 24-105 would be useable even for low light stage shots, etc (at ISO 800).

I have to admit, since getting the 24-105, my 24-70 hasn't seen much use for the kind of work I do.  I really like the 24-105 ALOT.  It is very sharp and the IS is a nice feature.  Plus the smaller size, lighter weight, extra reach, is a real plus for my six decades old arm   .

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