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Alain,

Actually yellow pine is a harder soft wood and it tends to be cantankerous - just never know what it's going to do on a small scale like this.  Try poplar - if in US - from Lowes - it should do the trick.

Lowes has cedar used mostly for outdoor trim I believe.

Here's a source for cypress I found online -

CYPRESS

A woodworker / furniture maker can make just about any wood work fine.

To be more traditional, as previously recommended, cypress is the real deal.

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Here's an interesting project(s)  - a Japanese lantern for anyone wanting to try a little
woodworking project that can take the Kozo paper:

Semi-circular lantern

Another Japanese Lamp - with plans

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Thanks very much, Mark. 

I purchased a lamp similar to the second link a number of years ago from a local woodworker.  It didn't use thin Kozo though but rather a much heavier textured but translucent paper that included small leaves in the paper.  It produces a wonderful light and is unique looking.

My problem is that a person visiting my home put their thumb and forefinger through the paper in a clumsy attempt to pick it up.  I'm still trying to figure out how to perhaps disassemble it to repair or replace the paper.  I don't want to destroy the craftsmanship that exists so I'm just leaving it alone for now.
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Alain,

Actually yellow pine is a harder soft wood and it tends to be cantankerous - just never know what it's going to do on a small scale like this.  Try poplar - if in US - from Lowes - it should do the trick.

Lowes has cedar used mostly for outdoor trim I believe.

Here's a source for cypress I found online -

CYPRESS

A woodworker / furniture maker can make just about any wood work fine.

To be more traditional, as previously recommended, cypress is the real deal.

-Mark

Mark

Thanks again.

I'm from Europe (Flanders), but I've seen some Cedar (18x68mm already finished) and the shop has the equipment to saw it in the length.

If I don't find something better at some other store's the Cedar will be used.

Alain
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Thanks very much, Mark. 

I purchased a lamp similar to the second link a number of years ago from a local woodworker.  It didn't use thin Kozo though but rather a much heavier textured but translucent paper that included small leaves in the paper.  It produces a wonderful light and is unique looking.

My problem is that a person visiting my home put their thumb and forefinger through the paper in a clumsy attempt to pick it up.  I'm still trying to figure out how to perhaps disassemble it to repair or replace the paper.  I don't want to destroy the craftsmanship that exists so I'm just leaving it alone for now.

Hi Ron -
It is not uncommon in Japan, as a matter of fact, it is a rule to repair shoji by adhering a small neat patch (sensu or other shape) over a hole.  If it is a tear, just find a piece of rice paper (shojigami-means shoji rice paper) and use a little Elmers glue and put the tear together with the patch from the inside (they use mostly corn starch glue or rice paste called Nori in Japan).  You can sandwich layers, meaning patch on inside and outside.  Patches, artfully done are a sign of time passage and represent frugality.
Some highly prized shoji doors have numerous careful patches - in some cases they are highly sought after.  Some patches even have chop marks on them, signifying the repair and the person performing the service.

I like the lamp that is in Alain's video, mainly because it is so straight forward and simple and can be changed out easily.
BTW, you don't necessarily need to use double sided tape although it is a convenience.  Elmer's white glue is relatively archival and easy to work with.  Spread it with finger tips and let it get a little tacky, then put the Kozo on in the same manner lightly wetted.You can speed up the drying with a hair dryer or a 50 watt light bulb.

I like the LED's in Alain's model as well - great idea.

Mark


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Here's an interesting project(s)  - a Japanese lantern for anyone wanting to try a little
woodworking project that can take the Kozo paper:

Semi-circular lantern

Another Japanese Lamp - with plans

Thanks for the links, Mark! I have a place for that first lamp. :-)
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Hi Ron -
It is not uncommon in Japan, as a matter of fact, it is a rule to repair shoji by adhering a small neat patch (sensu or other shape) over a hole.  If it is a tear, just find a piece of rice paper (shojigami-means shoji rice paper) and use a little Elmers glue and put the tear together with the patch from the inside (they use mostly corn starch glue or rice paste called Nori in Japan).  You can sandwich layers, meaning patch on inside and outside.  Patches, artfully done are a sign of time passage and represent frugality.
Some highly prized shoji doors have numerous careful patches - in some cases they are highly sought after.  Some patches even have chop marks on them, signifying the repair and the person performing the service.

I like the lamp that is in Alain's video, mainly because it is so straight forward and simple and can be changed out easily.
BTW, you don't necessarily need to use double sided tape although it is a convenience.  Elmer's white glue is relatively archival and easy to work with.  Spread it with finger tips and let it get a little tacky, then put the Kozo on in the same manner lightly wetted.You can speed up the drying with a hair dryer or a 50 watt light bulb.

I like the LED's in Alain's model as well - great idea.

Mark


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Thanks so much for the advice, Mark!!!!  This lamp was made with a warm CFL bulb in it.  It produces a warm light through the paper that is very peaceful.

I lived in northern Japan for 2 years in the early 70's and enjoyed and appreciated Japanese traditions and art.  When I found this lamp from a local woodworker I was immediately drawn to it. 
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FYI, Fishpond.com does not have this paper now. I ordered some on line and got an automatic refund. No mention of possibility of reacquiring a supply. Disappointing. Should anyone know of another source, please post the information.

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Dale V.
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They say they shipped my 17" roll which I ordered 3 weeks ago. They say it might take until the 14th to arrive.

Does anyone know where we can order 24" rolls in England?

I talked to my US supplier today and he said Epson has no plans to offer offer the kozo to the US market. What the hell is the matter with them. The first original product they have ever offered and we can't get it.

john



FYI, Fishpond.com does not have this paper now. I ordered some on line and got an automatic refund. No mention of possibility of reacquiring a supply. Disappointing. Should anyone know of another source, please post the information.

Regards,
Dale V.
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Does anyone know where we can order 24" rolls in England?

Some time last year I bought a couple of 24" rolls from
http://micro-partners.co.uk
Phone: +44-(0)208-900-2770
sales@mplworld.co.uk

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FYI, Fishpond.com does not have this paper now.
Dale V.

How annoying.  Has anyone tried printing on similar papers, but without the backing?
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Gary and other users.  My 1st roll has just arrived.  Do you have a suggestion for a starting profile for an Epson 4880 (absent making my own for the time being)?  I found Gary's link to profiles which include each one for the 2880/3880, the 7880/9880, and the 4900 so I'm wondering which might be the best starter for the 4880.

http://www.garywornell.com/kozo/printer-profiles/

Thanks
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Thanks for that website. I appreciate it.

I just received my 17"x 32 feet roll from Fish Pond and this tiny little roll cost me $175.00, and that's crazy, BUT I'm glad to have it. I can't experiment with it if I don't have it.

Epson doesn't think there is a market for it in US. And, that is more than a little odd because they haven't even offered it to us to try in the first place. Why did they go to all this trouble to produce it and create that web ad if they didn't think there was a market for it. None of that makes any sense. Gary did his job. Now it is time for them to do theirs.

Apparently one of the things that distinguishes this media is that it is 80% Kozo and 20% Abaca fibers. This is probably what gives the great dmax while still retaining the texture and quality of kozo.  There are other kozo blends out there but they are using other formulas. I can't wait to make something with this.

John





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Does anyone know where we can order 24" rolls in England?

Some time last year I bought a couple of 24" rolls from
http://micro-partners.co.uk
Phone: +44-(0)208-900-2770
sales@mplworld.co.uk
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FYI, Fishpond.com does not have this paper now. I ordered some on line and got an automatic refund. No mention of possibility of reacquiring a supply. Disappointing. Should anyone know of another source, please post the information.

Regards,
Dale V.

According to their Facebook Page
https://www.facebook.com/EpsonJapaneseKozoPaperThin/?rc=p

Amazon UK will post to USA.


Does anyone know where we can order 24" rolls in England?

Some time last year I bought a couple of 24" rolls from
http://micro-partners.co.uk
Phone: +44-(0)208-900-2770
sales@mplworld.co.uk



https://www.amazon.co.uk/EPSON-Japanese-Kozo-Paper-Thin/dp/B00GD4KMU0?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
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Thanks for the FB link.  I found a post there that said Ultra Smooth Fine Art Paper is the setting to use.  I ran some tests with regular inkjet paper (and the paper profiles obviously) between the 4880, 3880 and 7880 profiles and found the 7880 matched the 4880 profile perfectly (3880 was way too dark), so I think I have a profile and paper setting to start testing with now.
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"According to their Facebook Page
https://www.facebook.com/EpsonJapaneseKozoPaperThin/?rc=p
Amazon UK will post to USA."

Thank you. Much appreciated.
Dale


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"According to their Facebook Page
https://www.facebook.com/EpsonJapaneseKozoPaperThin/?rc=p
Amazon UK will post to USA."

Thank you. Much appreciated.
Dale
I found the same link and dutifully clicked it ... so I just ordered a 24" roll for less than I paid for the 17" roll  :) partly because the exchange rate was 1.34 and I noticed that fishpond are showing a lower price now ($149) for the 17" roll
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Well of course, things are increasing in price here (UK) already - already had an email from one company stating that there will be a price increase on Monday. :-[
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I found the same link and dutifully clicked it ... so I just ordered a 24" roll for less than I paid for the 17" roll  :) partly because the exchange rate was 1.34 and I noticed that fishpond are showing a lower price now ($149) for the 17" roll

Processed the 24" roll from Amazon UK and the total with shipping came to $269.00.
Held off on the buy. Hopefully I can find it for a little less. Thought that was quite pricy!

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That does seem like a lot considering the 17" roll is $123 delivered.

I bought it on a lark and probably do not have need for 30' of it so if someone is interested in some, PM me.

Item Subtotal:   £77.30
Postage & Packing:   £14.58
Order Total:   £91.88
USD 123.54*
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