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« on: April 20, 2006, 02:59:48 pm »

RG forum is back!
http://forums.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads.php?Cat=0
What will be it's future?
Will previous members come back?
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2006, 03:41:02 pm »

I checked it out already. Yes, I will visit but I do have following reservations.
 (1). It will be run by Drew and Melissa Strickland, Wedding Photographers.
 (2). They also run Digital Wedding Review Forum. They charge $49. per year to be a member.
 (3). They will make announcement tomorrow. i.e. see how much traffic flow is there & then base their price structure on it.
 (4) They probably give away 30days trial membership for free. like Wedding Photographer Forum.
   R.G Forum has enormous variety of topic menu to choose from. I have my reservation whether they have knowledge & support (other than Uwe of Outback) to justify annual fee for the forum. At their other forum they let you see only sample 10 topics, you have to fork out $49 to view the rest. If that is the format Stricklands will follow than I doubt it will be any successful forum. Thats my 2C and I am keeping my $48.98  
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2006, 10:59:25 pm »

$48.98 is a lot to pay just to hang out, kill time and shoot the breeze. I won't go back if that's the case. I might have to hang around here more.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2006, 09:00:43 am »

well in fact they say it's gonna be 25$/year.
The other aspect which is discussed a lot on th RG forum is that all the public messages/posts/contribution/library (as they call it) already written (and that's the real value of the past forum) will be only accessible to paying members. This is somewhat breaking the rights of Intellectual property of the previous posters...
If this is confirmed I will not join.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2006, 11:51:41 am »

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... all the public messages/posts/contribution/library (as they call it) already written (and that's the real value of the past forum) will be only accessible to paying members. This is somewhat breaking the rights of Intellectual property of the previous posters...
If this is confirmed I will not join.
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In my opionion, confiscation of intellectual property freely donated to the Internet community is irresponsible, reprehensible and unethical.

May they starve for members and contributors.

Peter
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2006, 11:58:17 am »

As I posted on another forum about the same "issue":

Let me get this straight. Folks (experts and users) are supposed to PAY to share information? What does Rob and the forum bring to the party? What made the forums good were the people who shared info (before many got banned). Many left or were forced to leave. So how does that fact make the new forums worth any money? Does paying to be a member now mean someone can say something less than positive about a product and NOT see the post locked or deleted?

This kind of reminds me of the old Groucho Marks joke about joining a club that would have him as a member.

The old free forums imploded due to poor moderation practices. So now paying is the solution? Can someone explain all this to me or is it just a way to generate money?
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2006, 03:09:28 pm »

I guess you can go back to RG and delete all your old posts if it bothers you. Better hurry...
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2006, 03:28:48 pm »

sorry, read my post just under this one
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2006, 03:34:35 pm »

Hi Andrew
Money should not change the things.
I think there are different things.

I can understand that handling a forum costs money, maintaining the server, hosting, renting high band connections, time spent etc, etc.
This has not (or should not) be linked to the way the forum is handled.
There are some ethics -yes I still do believe that in 2006 it's more than necessary- to be followed, entertain, encouraged.
i.e.
- no publicly "unexplain" ban
- no diversion of the prior intents of the forum, previous posts were made with the spirit of sharing ideas, problems, answers, ideas etc. with the whole world thru that forum. These must not be sold as an old car. These posts are our collective intellectual property. Organising to pay in order to have access to this "material" is organising a theft.

If the new owners :
- publicly assert that previous bans are cancelled and invite you as well others such as Mark Tucker and James Russel (to speak about the one I know, not forgetting the others) to come back

- Officaly states that all posts written before the forum gets a paying place will be readable by anybody registered or not

Then RG forum may see its strength (all of us) come back.  

If not? our community will be spreaded between many fora. What a shame.  

And last but not least, thank-you to Luminous Landscape to host this thread. I sincerely hope not to break its rules.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2006, 03:58:12 pm »

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No, you can't if RG killed your account as he did with so many. Literally all the thousands of posts I made are locked from my ability to edit or delete them.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2006, 01:42:26 am »

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No, you can't if RG killed your account as he did with so many. Literally all the thousands of posts I made are locked from my ability to edit or delete them.
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That's just not acceptable.

And no, I won't be visiting there.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2006, 05:57:03 am »

I’ve changed my name at RG forums to xxx_xxx.

Actually this change effects the whole history.

It’s my answer to the (moral) IP question.

Peter

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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2006, 06:19:54 pm »

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I’ve changed my name at RG forums to xxx_xxx.

Actually this change effects the whole history.

It’s my answer to the (moral) IP question.

Peter

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I finally ask Rob to close my account so I now appear as "former member" account closed.
The more will see this the less value the DB will have.
Let's go back to work now, I've an interesting assignement tomorrow...
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2006, 06:56:57 pm »

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I’ve changed my name at RG forums to xxx_xxx.

Actually this change effects the whole history.

It’s my answer to the (moral) IP question.

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Peter, Funny solution.  Good idea.

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2006, 08:18:05 pm »

No, I won't and I too find what they are doing reprehensible. If they want my posts I am happy to license their use for only $25 a year, otherwise I think I might have to see if I can delete them.

Edit: Scratch that, you can't edit or delete old posts.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2006, 10:26:26 pm »

I survived for years without participating in the RG forum. There are many photographic "communities" out there. RG, like the LL forum are places where friends hang out.

It's not about the information being exchanged. You can get answers to just about any question just by googling it.  It's about the friendships.

Unfortunately, friendships don't pay the bills.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2006, 07:17:41 am »

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Edit: Scratch that, you can't edit or delete old posts.
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Nope!
apparently you can ask...
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2006, 02:28:08 pm »

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No, I won't and I too find what they are doing reprehensible. If they want my posts I am happy to license their use for only $25 a year, otherwise I think I might have to see if I can delete them.

Edit: Scratch that, you can't edit or delete old posts.
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They have changed their minds. The old postings will now be available for public viewing. The $25 will be an annual fee to be allowed to post. This will come as good news to a lot of people.
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2006, 04:02:17 pm »

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They have changed their minds. The old postings will now be available for public viewing. The $25 will be an annual fee to be allowed to post. This will come as good news to a lot of people.
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I wonder if people like me and previously banned people will come back.
The way Drew handled the crisis is not the kind of things I like...
It was stated in the last posts that making pay for free stuff were not legal and were infringing copyrights, the fact that Drew didn’t post since Saturday afternoon may indicate that he was may be waiting for a layer’s advice... Who knows.
Wrong attitude anyway. How can we confident for the future.

Beside of that, the idea of a paying club doesn't looks good to me. I like the idea to be free to share a space with people that feels the same. If needed I may, as I did for RG, contribute and send some Euros if needed.
Isn't it nice to preserve a free space in our world?
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2006, 04:52:11 pm »

Remember all that "Free Internet for life" stuff a few years back. No Free lunch. This is just the tip of the iceberg..IMHO
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