Guys, we should compile the upgrade prices you were quoted alongside the initial price you paid for your system and how old it is. Just to get the true value math of phase one systems clearly on the table.
I would like to get some more transparency on the "value protection" concept phase once paraded around, so that it becomes clear, what you are buying into when getting a phase system.
I would suggest following format, for example:
>> IQ180 DF+ in June 2013 for 48k USD, want to "upgrade" to IQ380 XF, got quoted 18k trade-in (just made this up)
Ie, you lost 30k of value in 24 months, i.e. more than 1k per month. In my view a bad investment, one would then be far better off to buy a two-generation old system in the forum and leave that 30k loss to the rich folks or professionals with tax subsidies.
Also I would like to understand how upgrade pricing changes over time, as I am sure there exist patterns. For example, now that the new back is out, it is probably good business sense for Phase to milk the demand and price the product on the top end of what is possible (especially since they are PE-backed, they will price on the high end as much as possible), especially with such affluent enthusiast clientele from China, wo gobble up high-end photographica like there's no tomorrow.
So: How do upgrade prices change over time?
Say, when I get quoted 18k now, might I get a system during a special promotion period for say 25k less? How long does this on average take? Are there patterns? It is also my understanding that Phase closely watches secondary market pricing in order to adjust upgrade trade-in value. Can we estimate their algorithm for this? Ie 3k USD premium over last 12 week forum and eBay sales?
What is your suggestion regarding best strategy to get a phase system and not feel bad that you lost in value a nice car in just two years?
Many thanks for your input!
Best,
P