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Cold Mounting tissue?
stcstc31:
yep facemount is expensive, BUT for the jobs that need the best. it is
as for sizes. buy 2 rolls and have you supplier log cut one of them in half, so you have 2 narrower rolls,
i have a 54 " wide laminator and generally have 1040mm roll of self wound on it, and to tell you the truth even sticking something 12" wide, will just use the same roll as the stuff is relatively cheap compared to what i would sell it for. i have a 35% wastage built into my pricing so on most jobs its covered on some maybe not
Richard.Wills:
Facemount is horribly, eye-wateringly expensive. For the best results from very glossy paper onto very smooth substrates (no orange peel), it's pretty much the only option (unless you can get the Zenith equivalent)
With something like mediatac, unfortunately for a 24x20' print, you're looking at 24x17" of waste (plus the lead and tail lengths (another 41x12"), unless you are ganging up the prep of the substrates. So, if your workflow is prep the odd mount board here and there, then you'll want to go for a double sided mount film, with twin release. If you are looking to prep up multiple boards in batches, particularly if you are starting from larger sheets, then cutting down to size when needed, then a selfwound material would suit.
In the good old days, we were able to buy directly form the manufacturer, who would convert 41" rolls into 24+17" rolls, so we could carry all three sizes for maximum efficiency. Unfortunately that is no longer an option (nor I suspect would it be on your side of the pond)
disneytoy:
Very interesting. With a 39" 1meter laminator on the way, I guess I have to figure out what adhesive to buy.
I do many images on glossy print 34" on a 36" roll. The lenght vary from 22", 25" then larger sizes like 60-80".
I do have several 44" rolls, So at some point I'd like to print larger, too.
I went with the 39" laminator for cost reasons.
At the same time I also do smaller prints, 13x19" 16x22", etc.
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My hope was to have an easy way to mount everything cost effectively.
I'm not a fan of overhandling prints. Rerolling them up after printing. I wantyed a workflow where after printing, I could lsy them flat until I'm ready to mount,
So I guess I need to figure if the extra cost of a double release would have less waste. And a cheaper Mediatac would have much more waste.
Nothing simple:-)
Richard.Wills:
In the UK, the Drytac products are available through two channels - those aimed at the lower volume user (photographers, small galleries etc) and the volume users (sign-makers, display graphics etc). We can get smaller rolls through the former - 24" and rolls of the double release. Through the volume channels, we get much better per sq ft prices, but fewer small options. I would imagine there is a similar network over your side.
If this is your first laminator, then you have a rather steep learning curve ahead of you, particularly if you have no-one on hand to pass down tips and techniques, and as you are starting off on a manual mounter, you have a limited number of limbs to work with. So, you may well find life easier, and the learning process more forgiving, to start off on a high quality double release material.
Not face mount, but one of the better Drytac paper release ones, as these are more forgiving to set up.
They've very recently updated some of their instructional videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBVnpOHmUOU, which although they refer to facemount, overlap some of the Zenith ones linked earlier.
disneytoy:
Great info Richard, I'm watching those videos now.
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