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AndreG

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« on: February 19, 2012, 07:11:04 am »

Hi,
Mark Dubovoy articles sparked my interest. I would like to read on Digital Medium Format.

Through the years, I learned quite a lot by reading the posts and evaluations on Lula. But at times, when I consult the for sale section I am out of my wits by what is listed. I am very attracted by the Alpa Cameras.

I did search on Amazon but I could not find a current one.

Why books? It's just my learning process.

Suggestions anyone...
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Re: Books..
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 08:39:25 am »

Hi,
Mark Dubovoy articles sparked my interest. I would like to read on Digital Medium Format.

Through the years, I learned quite a lot by reading the posts and evaluations on Lula. But at times, when I consult the for sale section I am out of my wits by what is listed. I am very attracted by the Alpa Cameras.

I did search on Amazon but I could not find a current one.

Why books? It's just my learning process.

Suggestions anyone...


Only this: if you live in a large city, spend time in camera shops and looking/talking/handling the stuff. Books are okay as far as getting a good sense about where photographs are at, but equipment is too personal and price-related for the browsing process. You have to get out there and deal with the reality.

For example: I'm just about to take myself out for an after-lunch attempt at shooting something or another. I realise that for what I have in mind, I need my Gitzo. Well, had I known then what I know now about the fragility of health, I would never, ever have bought it: I require a wheeled shopping frame (sans basket!) in order to take the thing to where I expect to find my shots! On paper, I might currently have been tempted to buy such a tripod, but a single touch would have shown it was beyond me... cameras are much lighter, but they also get heavy after a few minutes. Trust me on that! Books are theory.

Rob C

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 09:32:03 am »

I have been shooting medium format film and digital for 25+ years and to my recollection, there are not any books that I know of that are specific to medium format digital. Ernst Wildi wrote books for Hasselblad film cameras in the past, but they were more or less manuals. In my opinion, the best way to learn about MF digital (MFD) is to get a MFD camera and follow all the forums.

GetDPI.com's medium format threads are good ones to follow and to see images produced from an array of different cameras, backs, lenses, locations, etc. http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/medium-format-systems-digital-backs/ as well as here on LuLa.

Also, go to Hasselblad and look through their stuff. There should be lots of images and I know there is a newsletter you can sign up for: http://hasselbladusa.com/

Alpa has a gallery of images from photographers using their cameras as well: http://www.alpa.ch/en/home.html. I personally own an Alpa Max, but may be letting go of it soon because I do not have the time to use it. Alpa makes beautiful cameras, but so does Arca Swiss (my studio MFD) and others.

Basically, I find following the forums and finding photographers you favor is the learning process of today. Shooting with an MFD is really the only way you will learn what MFD can do for your photographic voice and develop your technique--it is only then in my opinion, you will know if it is right for you and from there your journey begins.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 10:13:57 am »

Mark Dubovoy articles sparked my interest. I would like to read on Digital Medium Format.

Through the years, I learned quite a lot by reading the posts and evaluations on Lula. But at times, when I consult the for sale section I am out of my wits by what is listed. I am very attracted by the Alpa Cameras.

This basically describes why Value Added Dealers exist. Your describing our profession. We are that book.

Of course that's only the first part of our responsibilities. Establishing goals, sifting through a myriad of options, determining what advantages/disadvantages you can expect at various budget levels, finding the perfect fit (or a few very good fits), finding a good deal on that gear, setting up an in-person visit or shipped rental-towards-purchase to allow evaluation, and then providing follow-up training so you get the most out of the gear, and cell-phone/screen-sharing/email customer support (real 1v1 help, not a call center) for any questions, concerns, or problems that come up.

There are several digital back manufacturers each producing many models in several platforms/mounts, that can be used with at least a dozen bodies (including the tech cams) and no less than a 100 lenses (if you include legacy and manual glass). That's not even considering the software-end in which you'll spend at least half your time.

For instance: is Alpa right for you or would Arca or Cambo be better suited to your needs and budget? Is the priority compactness, flexibility, precision, speed-of-work? Do you need tilt at all? Do you need tilt on wide-angles? Do you need tilt and swing at the same time?

Do you need long exposure? What ISOs do you need? Do you only shoot landscape or do you want to explore using your solution for other genres as well? How often do you shoot and in what ways? Do you carry the equipment in a backpack deep into rural areas or do you drive up to look-out points and work out of your car? Are you going to be post-processing yourself or handing off to a lab or printer? Will you be using this in conjunction with a dSLR or replacing one? What cameras have you used in the past and what did you like about them?

If you're looking for a book about all that - you're absolutely not going to find it. Things change every year and it's a speciality-sized market. But if you're preferred method of learning is to read I can tell you that we have the perfect companion for you. Each of our sales guys prefers to work in different ways; one prefers in-person visits, another prefers emails, a third prefers phone calls.

We also have several clients each year who prefer to do their evaluations by attending a workshop. For instance we were just in Death Valley supporting a GetDPI.com tech-camera workshop. At that workshop there were several kinds of backs, all of the major tech cameras, and many lenses; with loaner equipment available to the handful of attendees that either didn't have a system or wanted to evaluate an upgrade or new lens.

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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 12:56:00 pm »

"For example: I'm just about to take myself out for an after-lunch attempt at shooting something or another. I realise that for what I have in mind, I need my Gitzo. Well, had I known then what I know now about the fragility of health, I would never, ever have bought it: I require a wheeled shopping frame (sans basket!) in order to take the thing to where I expect to find my shots! On paper, I might currently have been tempted to buy such a tripod, but a single touch would have shown it was beyond me... cameras are much lighter, but they also get heavy after a few minutes. Trust me on that! Books are theory."



Well, well, well!

Having just spent a frustrating couple of hours in the cold trying to do something I thought I would not, I realise yet again that Life giggles at plans.

Plan A had been to take my Gitzo along for the ride. Plan B had been to look again at some of the shots I'd made on the spur of the moment with the cellpix thinggy and see if they could be improved using the D700 and 105mm micro Nikkor.

Plan A was instantly foiled, as I’ve hinted, by the weight of the thing: I’ve made a new resolution to reserve it for ‘studio’ work, which means that since I no longer own such a delightful place, it’ll probably never get the thrill of being used again. I took along the little but rigid Slik; who said size matters?

Plan B is something that I have seldom had much truck with, because I believe that the original idea only works in its own time; I was right: the old boats had mostly been processed beyond the broken paint work stage, and having had the benefit (not) of sanding, texture was but a fond and teasing memory. Also, the weather was quite at odds with the original experience.

Moral? Yes, certainly: beware of biting off much more than you can chew; the secret of success is to be ready when your opportunity comes. (Old Indian proverb.) Stuff cellphones!

Actually, despite the cold, it felt rather sweet having that D700 back in motion. I do envy John Smith and his old 500 Series, though... such sweet memories, but probably too damned heavy now as well.

Rob C


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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 04:34:48 am »

Andre's question was perfectly reasonable.

And it is an interesting reflection on how tiny the MF digital market is, that there are in fact no books. Doug's reply was, as usual, the most useful response (although Rob's reflections were fun too, if a little off topic). The big snag is, that everything that Doug and other VARs offer is totally irrelevant unless you happen to live in or close to a city which supports one.

Which leaves folks like me who live way out in the sticks with the Internet and forums such as this as the main and in fact the only resource for the knowledge. In the last ten years which I have been out and about with my cameras, I have only met another photographer shooting MF twice, let alone MF digital. Even back in the 1980s when I was shooting film on my Rollei 2.8F, I never saw other MF photographers except at weddings.

So praise be for the LL Forum  ;)

John
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