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Mark Nadler

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How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« on: May 26, 2023, 10:00:02 pm »

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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2023, 06:19:07 pm »

Thank you for that, Mark.
It's hilarious!
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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2023, 07:14:14 pm »

Thank you for that, Mark.
It's hilarious!
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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2023, 02:10:39 pm »

Eric and David, thanks for your comments.  Guys, I wonder if you have to be of a certain age to get this image: smoke cigarettes and read Playboy magazine on the shitter.   

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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2023, 02:51:33 pm »

Eric and David, thanks for your comments.  Guys, I wonder if you have to be of a certain age to get this image: smoke cigarettes and read Playboy magazine on the shitter.   

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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2023, 10:35:11 pm »

I thought I should repost my vulgar image since it seems to have disappeared from my original post.

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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2023, 03:57:08 am »

You pic reminds me somehow of Jarmusch's Coffe and Cigarettes movie
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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2023, 09:08:43 am »

Bozzdivine, thanks for your comment.  Let me explain the mood I was trying to relate in my image.  There was maybe a two decade period of time beginning in the late 1950s through the 1970s where for a certain type of male receiving his monthly Playboy magazine was a big deal.  For various reasons many males thought the best place to read the magazine was to retreat to the "shitter" with a pack of cigs and spend some enjoyable time looking at its pics and reading its stories.  At the height of its popularity the magazine attracted some of the best writers in the world to its pages.  The magazine was never a "girlie" rag.  Playboy was a hipster mag for males from their 20's to 40's.

Bozzdivine, I haven't seen the movie you referred to.  However, I will.  The movie seems to be more about the social quality surrounding cigarettes and coffee which I understand completely.  I personally have enjoyed years of my life smoking and drinking coffee and booze with friends engaged in conversation.  My image is more about the pleasure of being alone with your two best friends: cigs and a copy of Playboy.   
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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2024, 09:18:15 am »

Mark,

I remember those halcyon days very well indeed.

You are probably the first guy I have come across who has acknowledged publicly that the magazine was also of very high literary value. Hugh Hefner's  Playboy Philosophy was quite something, and many of the good writers who found their way into the magazine would, for me, have remained totally unknown without that space allowing their light to shine. As for the photographers, they were second to none. I saved the magazines for years, and wouldn't have missed an issue for the world. I used to leave Playboy lying around the house, freely available for my kids to inspect should they so desire - the thing is, I don't think they ever did. As with so many things in life, it's within the prohibition that is to be found the attraction. The one person who did look through it was my mother-in-law. She would tell my wife which shots I would like the most, and then ask me to point out my choices. Most of the time, she had sussed out my photographic proclivites like reading a book!

Unfortunately, Playboy seemed to feel itself in competition with Penthouse. That may or may not have been a financial reality - how would I know - but there came a point in the Seventies where the photography crossed my personal idea of what marked the line between glamour and pornography. Consequently, having nothing but hatred for porn, a curse that had always muddied the waters of my own work in the eyes of Joe Public, I cancelled the order. I would not have felt happy for my kids to start a young exposure (or at any damned age, for that matter) to such material, especially so at home.

But still, all those old magazines, once I accepted the fact that I was no longer going to keep a collection, became very useful as cut 'n' paste source material when I used to design calendar mock-ups for clients. You never knew, but thank you, Hugh.

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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2024, 06:42:36 pm »

You are probably the first guy I have come across who has acknowledged publicly that the magazine was also of very high literary value. Hugh Hefner's  Playboy Philosophy was quite something, and many of the good writers who found their way into the magazine would, for me, have remained totally unknown without that space allowing their light to shine. As for the photographers, they were second to none.

I was a salaried reporter alert to occasional freelance opportunities in the 1970s and publishing in Playboy was equivalent to selling to The New Yorker.  The magazine's writing standards were high and its editing was fastidious.  That may not have been the general public perception, but it was no secret in literary circles.  Playboy was well out of my league, but it was something to aspire to.  And, yes, I also enjoyed the photographs.

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Re: How Playboy Magazine Changed Our Lives
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2024, 01:05:24 pm »

Thanks for the link, Chris.

Regarding the photography, as distinct from the writing: I thought that the centrefolds were the weak spots of each issue. To my eyes, they were just too studied, posed, perfect and formal. Though the centrefolds were technically excellent, I think that the editorial photos were far more free, and conveyed the very sense of spiritual freedom, of joie de vivre that I think the magazine wanted to express.

Though I no longer subscribed by then, I believe that Hef's daughter became head honcho, and maybe led the magazine into its altered state. They became involved with motion and subscription viewing, the path to selling the soul to a different kind of client.
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