Canson profiles - your experience?

[deliberate1]

Friends, I would appreciate your thoughts on the canned profiles for Canson Platine. I have a trusty old Epson  7800 that has served me well for many years. I use an NEC monitor that I calibrate regularly. So, in my experience, it has the been the paper profiles that makes the difference. So canned profile or custom. If custom, did you make or buy.
Much obliged,
David

[ErikKaffehr]

Hi,

I don't now if Canson publishes printer settings used for their profiles. Without printer settings known the profiles are of little use.

Best regards
Erik

Friends, I would appreciate your thoughts on the canned profiles for Canson Platine. I have a trusty old Epson  7800 that has served me well for many years. I use an NEC monitor that I calibrate regularly. So, in my experience, it has the been the paper profiles that makes the difference. So canned profile or custom. If custom, did you make or buy.
Much obliged,
David

[howardm]

the recommended media setting is Lustre 260 for that paper/printer combo.

my experience is that the profiles are pretty good.  Mine are slightly 'better'.

[kjkahn]

They provide media settings for Epson, Canon, and HP printers on this page:

http://www.canson-infinity.com/en/icc-profiles#I0000bad7

[gigdagefg]

The color byte profile for Canson platine is perfect!
Stanley

[howardm]

that's totally not what the OP asked. 

he wanted to know about the *Canson* made/provided profiles.

[gigdagefg]

Oh,
Sorry HowardM

[Jager]

Platine Fibre Rag is one of my favorite papers and the Canson-provided profile is excellent (as their profiles are for all their papers).

[deliberate1]

Gents, much obliged for the information. I will get a roll and use the canned profile. Another if I may.
Some users indicate that this paper has some surface particulates that need to be brushed off before use. If not, there will be bald spots on the print if they flake off. Is this a common phenomenon? Since the surface is reportedly fragile, I would prefer not to touch it with a brush or rag.
Regards,
David

[Ken Doo]

David, A soft anti-static brush from Kinectronics works well to gently brush paper surfaces prior to printing.

In my experience, for older printers such as the 7800/9800, canned manufacturer profiles weren't as good and it was not unusual to see great improvements with custom profiles. With the advent of the newer printers, (in general) canned profiles have gotten to the point of being quite excellent, and where custom profile improvements are much more subtle or negligible even. My guess is that color management and profile hardware and software has improved over the years just as any other tech---allowing paper manufacturers to provide higher quality canned profiles.  If the Canson profile for the 7800 is relatively new, than I'd place bets it will be quite good.

ken

[kers]

My experience with a Canson canned platine profile for the HPZ3100 is that my own made profile ( done with the Z3100) seemed to be better.

[Jager]

Some users indicate that this paper has some surface particulates that need to be brushed off before use. If not, there will be bald spots on the print if they flake off. Is this a common phenomenon? Since the surface is reportedly fragile, I would prefer not to touch it with a brush or rag.
Regards,
David

Some folks have reported this problem.  I never have.  But then I only use sheet paper.

[howardm]

I just use a run of the mill Alvin drafting brush followed by a blast of canned air on almost all prints.  Seems to work fine.

The surface of Platine is a bit like Creme Brulee (sp?) and when you cut it off a roll, it can generate little 'shards'

[deliberate1]

Very kind and helpful all.
David

[uintaangler]

I am getting ready to make my first print using Canson Platine. Bought a 50' roll and just loaded it onto my Epson 4900.

How does one "brush" roll paper?

Is it done prior to making the print or after?

Right after or is it better to let it "dry" a bit first?

Thanks.

[Mark D Segal]

I am getting ready to make my first print using Canson Platine. Bought a 50' roll and just loaded it onto my Epson 4900.

How does one "brush" roll paper?

Is it done prior to making the print or after?

Right after or is it better to let it "dry" a bit first?

Thanks.

Obviously before - the whole idea is to keep particulates out of the print path. Use a soft brush and a light touch.

[howardm]

I always use canned air as a final pre-step to inserting the paper into the printer.  I'm guessing that it might not be the silliest thing to consider one of those really small compressors and whatever the blowgun tip they use to carefully blast the unrolled canvas or printer path.

[Richard.Wills]

The surface of Platine is a bit like Creme Brulee (sp?) and when you cut it off a roll, it can generate little 'shards'

Perfect description. The surface shatters, no matter what blade is used (or so it seems to me). So, we try to keep the printer clean inside...
When the rolls get to less than 15', the curl starts to be noticeable, or when the humidity is too low, we see many head strikes on this paper. Best solution seems to be to let it relax on the printer before loading, and to leave 6" at the beginning of the print, which we can stick fingers onto, to hold the paper flat, and protect the heads. Seldom see strikes after the first 6".
The Canson profiles for the Canon 8400 are good, though we roll our own, because we can...

Still my favourite.

[One Frame at a Time]

I thought the one for the 3880 and Platine was pretty good

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On my 3880 the Canson Profile didn't work at all: I built my own via EyeOne (800 swatches) and it works fantastically!
Cheers
Ruedi