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Nikon D800 to Nikon 610 or even m4/3?
« on: October 16, 2014, 10:45:57 am »

I purchased my Nikon D800 before the D600 was released.  It is a beautifully designed camera and for the most part solidly built.  Now I have to send it in to have the 10 pin adapter replaced and I'm sure it will take forever to get it back from Nikon.  Because I never print larger than 22 inches, I'm considering selling the D800 and just buying a D610.  I haven't checked yet but I assume the D610 also has mirror lock-up which I always use in my mostly Yosemite landscape photography.  Of course I would like to upgrade to the D810 but the practical side of me says that it is overkill for the work I do.  Will I really miss out on anything other than the quality construction of the d800?  I also have an Olympus EPL5 that I use with a couple of quality primes that is quite nice, but I have never printed large from these files.  However, I do notice that I have a bit more control especially when dealing with highlight when using the D800 which makes me hesitant to jump the Nikon ship and the fact that I a set of quality Nikon zooms.  Has anyone had to make a similar decision? 
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Re: Nikon D800 to Nikon 610 or even m4/3?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2014, 01:17:28 pm »

I would strongly consider the newer 750.  I realize it's more expensive, but still not as much as the D810, and the 750 has some very nice features. 

The 10 pin design on the D800/e is a real weakness, you really can't push on it at all when putting it or it pops the whole assembly out.  Hopefully the 810 is redesigned in this regard, but I doubt it.  Both my 800 and 800e went back to Nikon.  I broke the 800 and a client on the e,  $250.00 per camera!

Look at the reviews on the 750.  I am considering selling my 800e for the 750, mainly due to the LCD swivel as it mean a lot for my back and neck.  I love a waist level finder. 

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Re: Nikon D800 to Nikon 610 or even m4/3?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2014, 01:52:00 am »

I spent a month on the road in Serbia, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria and more this summer.

I knew I would be shooting my friend's iconography, so image quality was paramount. On my previous trip, I shot with a D700 and D800. Some photos I wish I had shot with the D800 for the the IQ but the results were fine non-the-less.

I wanted to simplify some this trip as far as batteries, chargers and not have to remember which body was which. So this time I brought a pair of D800 bodies, the usual several pounds of lenses and all the stuff needed to support a month on the road. For kicks and grins, I brought my Panasonic GX-7 and two lenses.

For the absolute IQ, the two D800 bodies were king. However, they are larges, noisy, heavy to pack around and very intimidating when shooting people.

Most of the shooting in the streets and many of the monasteries I visited along the way was done with the GX-7 for my day-to-day shooting. It's small, quiet (no sound at all!), does very acceptable HD video and was unobtrusive while I shot so I was ignored most of the time. When I needed to wade through crowds, in other words to look "professional", I packed the pair of D800 bodies to get me access to the front of the line in a few of the situations.

Now that I'm home and have had time to edit, select, process and print, I can tell you that the Panasonic GX-7 held its own with the D800 and with the 7-14mm lens, saved the day in a couple of tight places I needed to photograph.

At ISO 3200 and 6400, the D800 and the massive files clean up well and the prints can get super-sized. Up to ISO 3200, the Panasonic GX-7 was quite acceptable, especially with some aggressive noise reduction in ACR.

Prints for my portfolio are 13-14 x 19 and size-by-side with the D800 images, the only way I can tell them apart is that the aspect ratio of the Panasonic is 3:4 and 1:1 when I shoot on "Rollieflex/Hasselblad" mode (square). For me, the ink-on-the-paper is the test for my work.

I really think I should have left the second D800 at home and took another GX-7 other than I like redundancy when I travel with a second body (my colleague's D800 bricked on his last trip to Greece a few weeks ago) and overlapping lenses just in case. As luck would have it, my wide-angle zoom AF went out on my last day so I missed a few shots, but that was minor.

IMO, I would be quite content to simply downsize to an M4/3 with 2-3 good lenses and matching bodies and an iPad and stay light on my feet. I can tell you that one body, two lenses and a pocket full of batteries (the GX-7 goes through many in a day, the D800 can go a couple of days shooting the same quantity) and a spare card with nobody raising an eyebrow because you look "professional" not to mention the lightened load was very liberating!
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Re: Nikon D800 to Nikon 610 or even m4/3?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2014, 09:09:00 am »

I like Fuji X over M43. But you decide what you need. D800 is way toooo big for me.
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Re: Nikon D800 to Nikon 610 or even m4/3?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2014, 10:18:56 am »

I can see the difference in 17x22 inch prints between the D800E and first the E-M5 and now the X-E2, but not stepped back to 5 or 6 feet.  However, the Nikon files are much easier to work with and have smoother tonality, and better highlight headroom, as well as being less susceptible to visible artifacts when sharpening.  So for me the difference is not completely driven by file IQ but by the experience in PP.  I the end, I use the Nikon whenever I can, but will take the smaller camera instead if I absolutely do not want to lug the larger camera.
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Re: Nikon D800 to Nikon 610 or even m4/3?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2014, 10:25:15 am »

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However, the Nikon files are much easier to work with and have smoother tonality, and better highlight headroom, as well as being less susceptible to visible artifacts when sharpening.

I have noticed this as well. 

Larry, I just returned from traveling through Turkey and only brought my m 4/3 set up.  It was perfect other than the fact that my camera does not have a view finder.  I made the entire trip with only carry on luggage - very liberating indeed. 

Thanks for all of your responses.
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