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The end of an era.
« on: November 15, 2025, 08:16:56 am »

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After years of dreaming impossible dreams, the day comes when I finally cast them aside them. Freedom? No, sadness.

I can only think of those fabulous, seminal productions by photographers such as Sarah Moon, Francis Giacobetti and Hans Feurer and my spìrits drop to my ankles. For some years now, I have felt photography to have been losing its natural dominance to the combined inputs of technicians and the various company men who, no doubt, felt ever more in need of proving their importance to the project. Well, they have now had their way, and in my opinion, a very talented photographer has stood in line and taken his place as sacrificial lamb.

Obviously not with Pirelli, but in my own career I have been through this state of creative drowning, when instead of a straightforward trip with a couple of models and my assistant (my wife), I have found myself surrounded by people without the slightest idea of how little they know about how photography actually works. By the end of a trip like that the single thing left in one's head is escape and self-recrimination for lacking the financial confidence to have said a resounding "No!"

Oh well, I am sure that either way, the tyres will keep on rolling.

What a bloody shame; what a mockery of what was and could still have been.

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Re: The end of an era.
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2025, 11:12:56 am »

So, what exactly have been about above? The 2026 Pirelli calendar? What about it?

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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2025, 01:17:39 pm »

Ah, the Pirelli calendar, tit and bum for the discerning wanker.

Yet another institution having had its day and struggling to find a place this century.

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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2025, 01:48:24 pm »

So, what exactly have been about above? The 2026 Pirelli calendar? What about it?

Lost direction: gave up beautiful photography in favour of anodyne, mechanical/electronic games played out on monitors during production.

The late Peter Lindbergh often spoke about the terrible consequences stemming from situations where the photographer becomes the button-pusher, his creative mind bleached out by the voices, each trying to make itself valid, coming from the people huddled before the linked monitor, that unholy shrine with his photos opened up to debate, informed or otherwise, where the flow, the very development of a photographic thread is butchered before it can reach its natural conclusion, be that some miracle or a simple dead end. In other words, if a client hires a photographer for his look, his mind, why try to second-guess him, and not just stay quietly at the back of the studio and watch the performance or, better, stay at the office and leave the hunter alone to do his hunting?

It could be argued that a photographer, now, is sometimes probably dragged into a production for no better reason than to have a management scapegoat, somebody to carry the blame if things go wrong. Today, a different world. A perfectly wonderful, amazing and soulless calendar could be created without any original photos being made for it at all. I guess the lure is still the women: nice to be around them, the rest being secondary.

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Re: The end of an era.
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2025, 01:59:16 pm »

Ah, the Pirelli calendar, tit and bum for the discerning wanker.

Yet another institution having had its day and struggling to find a place this century.

Yes, and perhaps no.

I go to great lengths to have a shop here order me a particular brand of calendar each year. I require large pages with each day providing space to add notes: doctor appointments, mostly. I don’t want that hidden in a computer or my iPad or ‘phone: i want to be able to see the information, write large, the night before as I close the office door.

Regarding Pirelli: I would never have dreamed of defacing any of them like that. They used to be inspirational, something that few calendars other than Pentax and also Mintex used to be.

I don't think I’d ever look upon that genre of calendar as simply tit ‘n’ ass. I saw a lot more in them than that. I also missed the connection with them and wanking. But that’s just me, I guess.

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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2025, 04:13:11 pm »

Yes, and perhaps no.

I go to great lengths to have a shop here order me a particular brand of calendar each year. I require large pages with each day providing space to add notes: doctor appointments, mostly. I don’t want that hidden in a computer or my iPad or ‘phone: i want to be able to see the information, write large, the night before as I close the office door.

Regarding Pirelli: I would never have dreamed of defacing any of them like that. They used to be inspirational, something that few calendars other than Pentax and also Mintex used to be.

I don't think I’d ever look upon that genre of calendar as simply tit ‘n’ ass. I saw a lot more in them than that. I also missed the connection with them and wanking. But that’s just me, I guess.

Well, my first line was said with tongue firmly in cheek.

I worked for Penthouse and many of the other 'top shelf publications', but was never under the illusion that my contributions amounted to anything other than a distraction from the tits and bums.

That said, at least my covers for Penthouse Forum magazine in the seventies were accompanied by ground breaking honesty in the form of articles and discussion around sexuality. Forum magazine was the Masters and Johnson for the masses.
Gawd bless 'em.

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Re: The end of an era.
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2025, 04:14:42 pm »

So, in a nutshell... you don't like the new look and are nostalgic for the old one?

To me, they look like a pretty decent pictures, though, admittedly, I don't have the slightest idea how the old Pirelli looked like. Not all are to my liking, but that is the point, i guess, to cover a broader audience.

As I am getting older, I also get progressively annoyed (no, repelled) by Netflix' usual, in-your-face mix of politically correct casting and stories, and returning to older films for their story, plot, and acting, rather than quotas or pc points.

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2025, 04:28:21 pm »

So, in a nutshell... you don't like the new look and are nostalgic for the old one?

To me, they look like a pretty decent pictures, though, admittedly, I don't have the slightest idea how the old Pirelli looked like. Not all are to my liking, but that is the point, i guess, to cover a broader audience.

As I am getting older, I also get progressively annoyed (no, repelled) by Netflix' usual, in-your-face mix of politically correct casting and stories, and returning to older films for their story, plot, and acting, rather than quotas or pc points.

It seems to me that most Netflix content is algorithm based. As my wife says, you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2025, 10:36:40 am »

So, in a nutshell... you don't like the new look and are nostalgic for the old one?

To me, they look like a pretty decent pictures, though, admittedly, I don't have the slightest idea how the old Pirelli looked like. Not all are to my liking, but that is the point, i guess, to cover a broader audience.

As I am getting older, I also get progressively annoyed (no, repelled) by Netflix' usual, in-your-face mix of politically correct casting and stories, and returning to older films for their story, plot, and acting, rather than quotas or pc points.


The Pirelli audience, unless they have changed the calendar’s purpose, was never the general public. You couldn’t just go out and buy one in the shops: as with all company calendars, they were sent to “special” people who could, one way or another, help trade along. That being so, I’d be surprised if they were seeking a different target audience with the latest - the later few, in fact.

I think Keith had it closer on target: the calendar has become old hat. People no longer feel surprised or excited to see really beautiful models showing off. In fact, I believe that there is a general loss of interest in that kind of thing. Pornography has apparently become so widely available that tastes have been blunted, beauty no longer holds sway. Depravity might well be the new glamour. One has to put the calendar into context: it arrived along with the cultural explosion that saw fashion become available to all, and with far greater accompanying excitement than haute couture could ever cobble together.

The first Pirelli arrived for the year 1964, was shot in Mallorca by Robert Freeman, and was very tame indeed. In other words, it appeared along with the shorter skirts (again!), the youth culture and the collapse of the entire concept of Mummy and Daddy know best.

To my knowledge, because I bought them both, there have been two Pirelli Calendar Collections published. It would be interesting to buy one, if only to trace how something so iconic came to arrive, become famous, stop production for years, only to start up again and, in my view, never find the magic again. The reason they lost it, in my opinion, is that it became too heavily controlled and directed, with the dreaded “ theme” used to sell the idea to the company, and once that had been done the fear of deviating from it, even when it became obvious that the very idea itself was bullshit, a load of crap designed simply to get the go ahead, and to worry about later. That’s my opinion, anyway.

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2025, 01:19:58 pm »

A little more about the ‘top shelf’ publications of the 1960s and 1970s.

I left art college in 1970 and quickly realised that the publications could provide a rich vein of work for a young illustrator.

In the 1950s there was very little in the way of competition domestically or internationally for Playboy magazine. Excellent photography, writing and illustrative work. The mid 60s saw change, many competitors emerged, most notably Bob Guccione’s Penthouse and Forum magazines, to be joined by Paul Raymond’s Men Only and Club International titles. Other players included Galaxy Publication’s Knave and Fiesta, Fisk publication’s Mayfair and a plethora of others.

The fees were variable but improved over time and the recognition that the ownership of artwork produced by illustrators remained with the artist and should be returned to the them after publication. Subsequently the artworks were often sold to private collectors or indeed to the publisher’s employees. Other international editions of the magazines attracted additional fees. A great source of work and income when combined with other publishing work. I was often given carte blanche, handed an article or book and left to deliver my own take. Freedom!

The mid 70s saw much change with publishers such as Gold Star Publications and others pushing the borders of legality. The result was other established publishers felt pressure to compete by pushing their own borders. At this point I could see the writing on the wall and decided I had had enough and switched to advertising work. Great monetary reward but no where near as rewarding creatively.

Anyway, a little potted history for anyone who has an interest. 

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2025, 05:13:12 pm »

My own take was that Playboy began to feel threatened by Penthouse, and began to go downmarket, in the sense that its pictures started to be kinda rough around the edges, so much so that I cancelled my subscription. I felt unhappy to do that, because images aside, the magazine still featured great writers and quite often had me consulting the dictionary - never a bad thing. The Playboy Philosophy was a very powerful and long-running series of articles through which to discover the various forms of moral censorship that plagued the US back in the day. I guess not a lot changed over the decades. If anything, it is probably worse today, what with all of this woke nonsense that it has exported around the English-speaking world.

As an aside: how funny that the high-end fashion magazines took over as purveyors of gratuitous nudity! I guess that might suggest that women have a healthy curiosity about how other women actually look, but they are probably not all aware of Photoshop…

I originally had no problem with leaving Playboy lying around the house for anybody, kids included, to see. However, when I detected the change, I felt that I didn’t want to slip into that sad area of having stuff that had to be kept hidden from view. Playboy’s early photos always managed to look like the girls were having fun, and felt free. Once the full frontal stuff arrived, that playfulness was toast. I never liked photos where the models looked fierce - you know, curled lips and scowls.

I suppose my hatred for porn came when I realised that for some people, anything with clothes off was, in their definition, porn. I didn’t fancy that connection being made to my photography.

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Re: The end of an era.
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2025, 06:52:00 pm »

Where is Edward Weston now that we need him?

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2025, 03:57:20 am »

Where is Edward Weston now that we need him?

Thankfully Weston and Penn weren't offering their images to the glamour market place.

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2025, 06:37:59 am »

Thankfully Weston and Penn weren't offering their images to the glamour market place.

If they had been, they'd have died hungry.

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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2025, 08:38:17 am »

If they had been, they'd have died hungry.

Indeed, entirely different photographers and genres.
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