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Question about audio hiss in m4/3s bodies
« on: November 14, 2025, 09:23:42 am »

My wife makes video re artwork and currently uses ad old consumer Canon HD camcorder (M400) with dedicated Canon mic that connects via camcorder "hot shoe". Voice sound quality is perfectly fine for her needs. I'm looking for an eventual replacement.

We use Olympus m4/3s cameras and she has an E-M5 mark II that she uses for some outdoor video capture but not for any audio because there is a hiss from it that I cannot get rid of. From reading online, this is a common complaint for that body that people attribute to inadequate audio amplifier. It would handy to consolidate the workflow to only use m4/3s gear as we have several lenses.

What I am wondering is whether an older Panasonic body, GH3, GH4 or G7, would produce adequate sound quality. It's difficult to be specific about requirements but it needs to be better than that from the Olympus E-M5.2. Sound quality close to that from the Canon camcorder would be good for our purposes. Does anyone have experience with these bodies vs the Olympus? Are they hiss-free or at least much better than the Olympus body?

Please do not suggest using external audio recording, my wife will never go for that complication. It is not her objective to be a videographer. Thanks.

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Re: Question about audio hiss in m4/3s bodies
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2025, 06:56:55 pm »

I have used GH3,4&5 for many years with no audio issues similar to what you describe. But Original Equipment on-board mics can suffer from being too close to the operator. with handling and breathing being potential issues. A mic that is 'slung' within a web of elastic works reasonably well. Rode Video mic pro+ - certainly far better than a hotshoe-mounted non-isolated mic.
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Re: Question about audio hiss in m4/3s bodies
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2025, 10:00:11 pm »

I have used GH3,4&5 for many years with no audio issues similar to what you describe. But Original Equipment on-board mics can suffer from being too close to the operator. with handling and breathing being potential issues. A mic that is 'slung' within a web of elastic works reasonably well. Rode Video mic pro+ - certainly far better than a hotshoe-mounted non-isolated mic.

Thanks very much. I tested the audio on the Olympus E-M5.2 using an H1 in pass-through mounted on a cold shoe adapter. Tried numerous settings, couldn't get rid of the hiss, which conforms to other accounts online.

When I query Google, some AI answered that the Panasonic G7 has excellent audio electronics. Did the AI read one report or a dozen, who knows. I brought up the G7 because it's smaller than the GH models, which would suit my wife.

If/when her camcorder finally dies, I suspect one of those Panasonic m4/3s cameras will do the job. Meanwhile, I think I'll try to borrow/rent one from somewhere to test.

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Re: Question about audio hiss in m4/3s bodies
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2025, 08:09:59 am »

I think I've sorted this out and I'm embarrassed it took so long. First, I should not have been calling the sound I heard hiss. More accurate would be hum or buzz or something between the two, a drone maybe? That was carelessly worded.

I moved the mic off the Olympus E-M5.2 cold shoe onto a separate holder and the "drone" sound went away, in the sense that the voice quality produced was as good as we get from our old Canon camcorder, which resolves my wife's issue. I didn't understand why this should work until I came across an interweb posting that stated that even when IBIS is turned off, the motors still run to keep the sensor in place. I had never had to think about this before and simply assumed (mistake) that when IBIS is turned off, the sensor is "parked" to a mechanically fixed location. It seems not to be.

Btw, my E-M5 mark 3 behaved exactly the same way.

I set the camera's internal mic input gain to -6 db and upped the output of the mic. I used an H1 in pass-through for this test and if I set its output to 70 and above (or 60 if closer to the person speaking) then the audio was fine for our purpose. I'm certain it doesn't meet pro Hollywood standards, but no one is paying us the big bucks either. :)

I wondered why I never had this issue with the Canon camcorder, as all I did with it was to turn off its stabilization. But its lens is stabilized, not sensor, and it is a tiny lens so maybe the residual noise from that motor is low enough that it cannot be heard. Also, I am using a dedicated Canon hot shoe mic with that camcorder and Canon may be compensating for the stabilization noise, if any, some other way.

A friend wondered if this issue might be why some lower end vlogging cameras (e.g., Panasonic G100) are not sensor stabilized.
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Re: Question about audio hiss in m4/3s bodies
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2025, 11:25:02 am »

Well sussed out! Useful information.
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