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Site & Board Matters => About This Site => Topic started by: MatthewCromer on February 01, 2006, 11:33:32 pm
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Nikon F4, Provia 100?!
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1995?!? Holy crap! Photography existed before the D30?
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........and there are other makers besides Canon too. Bet that came as a shock to some, eh!
Seriously, it makes a pleasant change to see a film shot on the front page again. Hopefully more will appear from time to time. Thanks Michael.
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That it is from a film camera that is ok but it's the second time he put that picture on his (great) site. What's up with that Michael. Don't tell me your running out of photo's I don't believe you.
Great shot
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If you rememner that shot, you've been around here a long time.
The reason it's up is that I hadn't seen it in some years. I was doing some image cataloging for a book project and came across it the other day.
I liked it, so I decided to put it up again. Kind of like finding an old framed print in the basement and hanging it on the wall for a while.
I also like tweeking the noses of those people that think I'm some kind of Canon zealot. I shot exclusively with Nikon for more than two decades.
Michael
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Being drawn to images of ordinary objects presented in artful, quasi-abstract ways, I gazed approvingly upon this photo.
It is fortunate, however, that my day job is anesthesiologist, so I was able to extract my swallowed tongue from my airway--the result of Shock and Awe at being so forcefully reminded of Michael's sordid Film past. Apparently he was a serial Film-ist in some remote, vaguely-remembered bygone era. Who knew?
I think it was the hollow echo of plaintive, keening wails of loneliness over there on the Wet Darkroom forum that put the poor guy over the edge. Or maybe it's the encroaching gloom of Canadian winter that has him temporarily off his feed.
Anyway, thanks Michael from all us film-shootin' stepchildren on this "anti-film" site!
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I remember Provia. I think I read about it in an ancient history book. Wasn't that used by the Greeks and Romans?
Actually, I still own two film cameras, but nowadays whenever I go to use them, I can't figure out where to insert the memory card.
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I still own 4 film cameras, 2 of which are MF. I have 2 dedicated film scanners, the Nikon 8000 ED and Minolta 5400 II. I have a dozen or more rolls of film in the fridge, yet I still can't bring myself to load a roll of film in any of these cameras, even to disprove some of Michael's assertions in a recent article 'Clumps and Chumps' .
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I'm with you Ray. I still have a shelf full of film that says it's past due in my fridge. It's now getting to the stage I feel embarassed when I try to remember where all the dials are on my film cameras. That still didn't stop me bidding on eBay for a rare accessory for my Olympus Pen F collection display!
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I switched from film to fully digital only two years ago (from Canon to Nikon, the opposite of Michael, it appears), so I remember it (using film) clearly, but I can't see myself EVER going back. Changing ISO on the fly, looking at histograms to adjust exposure, no film grain, no trips to the photo lab, no ten-minutes-per-image film scanning, etc. etc. etc....
Lisa
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If you rememner that shot, you've been around here a long time.
Yes I have been bitten by the photography bug about 7-8 years ago and have visited your site on a weekly/daily basis for all those years.
And still this was my first ever post in your forum. Never really followed your forum.
It was and still is a bit out of my league. I'm still not a decent photographer but I enjoy it that makes it ok.
I remembered this photo as I really think it is a great one. But there are several more I'm quite certain I will remember if you put them back on.
Philip
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It is a fresh reminder that it is the photographer's eye and mind that make a good photograph, not cameras or capture media.
I am a regular visitor to this site, from the time when Michael would review Provia slide film, the EOS 1V camera, or the Ricoh GR1 camera.
I still use my trusty 1V and Velvia 100F, and will keep doing so until the full-frame series 1 cameras drop down to what the 1V costs.
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I remember Provia. I think I read about it in an ancient history book. Wasn't that used by the Greeks and Romans?
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Just shot 16 sheets of 4*5 Provia 100F today... together with 12 other guys who were all shooting sheets of Provia 100F today.
If my math is right, there are at least 13 people on earth still shooting Provia 100F...
One for the road, shot late December with Provia 100F...
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Cheers,
Bernard
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looks B&W to me....
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The reason it's up is that I hadn't seen it in some years. I was doing some image cataloging for a book project and came across it the other day.
I liked it, so I decided to put it up again. Kind of like finding an old framed print in the basement and hanging it on the wall for a while.
Michael
The snowfence image takes me back to last November at the Brickworks shoot. I was talking to Michael beforehand, outside the main building, when he looked past me and caught a glimpse of snowfence/brick outhouse/debris in the rain/mud/foliage. It was clear that the wheels were turning. He even mentioned it in conversation. I should have responded photographically but I felt like I would be copping an idea.
Once inside the shoot, there was a fella that was creating images by blending props (feminine intimate apparrel) juxtaposed to the industrial ruin. If I recall, he photographed the outhouse beforehand on a whim.
I learned a lesson that day. The power of the abstract is all around. One must perceive and pursue. Regardless of the fact that I returned home with no snowfence abstract, I was inspired though much of the shoot and I find that my work is definately moving in an artistic direction I want it too.
Equipment? Didn't matter much.
That old snowfence shot reminds me that its all about seeing.
Now, the shopping cart, well I dig it, but I can tell you my wife won't have that hanging in the great room.
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looks B&W to me....
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You have amazing eyes Pom!
This one was converted to B&W in PS CS, using the channel mixer I believe.
The original sheet was a bit under-exposed, and basically monotone. The B&W version has more impact in that it helps focussing on the texture.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Bernard, this is truly a good photograph - I like the composition, texture, lighting - all very well done. Congratulations.
Mark
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Bernard, this is truly a good photograph - I like the composition, texture, lighting - all very well done. Congratulations.
Mark
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Thanks for the nice words Mark.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Just didn't look like Provia....
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Just didn't look like Provia....
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At least it looks more like Provia than Velvia.
Lovely image, Bernard!
Eric
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If my math is right, there are at least 13 people on earth still shooting Provia 100F...
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Make it 14
I've even been known to shoot Sensia. I'd like to get a head count for that film too
Regards,
Alain
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Make it 14
I've even been known to shoot Sensia. I'd like to get a head count for that film too
Regards,
Alain
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I shot a roll of Sensia a few weeks back in my Ricoh GR1. It is still sitting in the mailer. The second roll jammed on frame 4, and the GR1 has been taken out and shot.
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The second roll jammed on frame 4, and the GR1 has been taken out and shot.
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RIP GR1
Alain
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I shot a roll of Sensia a few weeks back in my Ricoh GR1. It is still sitting in the mailer. The second roll jammed on frame 4, and the GR1 has been taken out and shot.
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I have to ask: What did you shoot the GR1 with? A digital???
Eric
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Make it 14
I've even been known to shoot Sensia. I'd like to get a head count for that film too
Regards,
Alain
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Make that 15! I shot over a dozen sheets of 8x10 Provia/Velvia this weekend and loved every minute of it. There's just something about a view camera and seeing a well exposed transparency that I can't step away from. But don't get me wrong. I also shot a heck of a lot more digital shots on Saturday. So, I pick and choose the camera depending on my subject and mood.
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I switched from film to fully digital only two years ago (from Canon to Nikon, the opposite of Michael, it appears), so I remember it (using film) clearly, but I can't see myself EVER going back. Changing ISO on the fly, looking at histograms to adjust exposure, no film grain, no trips to the photo lab, no ten-minutes-per-image film scanning, etc. etc. etc....
Lisa
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LOL!
I did like Michael -- shot Nikon film cameras for over 20 years, then switched to Canon just prior to transitioning to digital, but in anticipation of going digital. However, like you Lisa, I cannot see going back to 35mm or even MF film.
4x5 is another issue -- there are still things a view camera allows you to do that no SLR, D or otherwise, will never be able to accomplish. I am really stoked about the possibilities of using the newer 39MP backs on my view cam.
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As for the shot -- Michael, it remains an incredible image! I wonder though what it would look like if you had captured it today with all the DR your digital cameras give you... Would you have processed it so the shadows remained so dark or maintained similar saturation?
Cheers,
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I've even been known to shoot Sensia. I'd like to get a head count for that film too
I've shot Sensia. Even Sensia 800 or was it 400 on occasion. I still have about a dozen or so rolls of Velvia 50 in the fridge. I was just thinking the other day, "How am I ever going to get rid of that Velvia?"
I still love looking through my old slides when I get a chance to do so.
Bryan
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I was just thinking the other day, "How am I ever going to get rid of that Velvia?"
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On my most recent visit to Monument Valley I found a roll of Velvia medium format (120) "abandoned" on top of a road sign next to the main overlook. Certainly, someone could have forgotten it, and someone else placed it there. But, it may also be a strategy to dispose of unwanted film. eBay also works, but you have to pay fees, create listings and ship to buyers. The Mt. Valley overlook approach is easier.
Alain
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Like Alain I am still happily shooting film - Velvia 100 (not 100F) in my case. As you will see from my article posted today, I still find large format film the best tool for the job and for my business.
I could probably surpass my prints by using the P45 in a lateral 2 image stitch, but $40K plus could be spent on an awful lot of film, travel, prints etc. Film is simply more profitable for me.
So, add me to the Velvia list.
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Like Alain I am still happily shooting film - Velvia 100 (not 100F) in my case. As you will see from my article posted today, I still find large format film the best tool for the job and for my business.
I could probably surpass my prints by using the P45 in a lateral 2 image stitch, but $40K plus could be spent on an awful lot of film, travel, prints etc. Film is simply more profitable for me.
So, add me to the Velvia list.
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BTW Nick, GREAT review of the new Horseman digital SW! It showed how great 39MP of direct digital capture can be.
I got to play with that camera at my local retailers the other day and as nice as it was, I also came to the conclusion that I could process and even drum scan a LOT of 4x5 tranny for $40,000 -- and more like $50,000 for me by the time I bought all the lenses I'd want.
So like you and Alain, I am sticking to 4x5 film for my critical work -- at least for the time being -- but in my case I prefer the broader latitude of Astia for scanning
Cheers,