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Equipment & Techniques => Digital Cameras & Shooting Techniques => Topic started by: armand on December 16, 2014, 06:30:33 pm
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After losing another hood in the last week (first I found) I think I need a better method.
Last one I lost while carrying the camera on the tripod over my shoulder. One solution would be to take it off, but I have to do it every time and my OCD might not be strong enough.
Any other solutions, something like securing the hood to the lens if not too clumsy?
PS. it was a Nikon, much easier to put on vs the Fuji but easier to come off also
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After losing another hood in the last week (first I found) I think I need a better method.
Last one I lost while carrying the camera on the tripod over my shoulder. One solution would be to take it off, but I have to do it every time and my OCD might not be strong enough.
Any other solutions, something like securing the hood to the lens if not too clumsy?
PS. it was a Nikon, much easier to put on vs the Fuji but easier to come off also
cut a piece from an old bike rubber inner tube of an appropriate diameter and roll over hood & lens...
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I've never had a problem but one of my friends lost so many she's now drilled a tiny hole in the bottom and attached what looks like fishing line fastened the the neck strap clip, it works for her.
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After losing another hood in the last week (first I found) I think I need a better method.
Last one I lost while carrying the camera on the tripod over my shoulder. One solution would be to take it off, but I have to do it every time and my OCD might not be strong enough.
Any other solutions, something like securing the hood to the lens if not too clumsy?
PS. it was a Nikon, much easier to put on vs the Fuji but easier to come off also
Wow, I've never had this problem. My older lenses have either screw in hoods or metal bayonet that don't come off. And most of my newer lenses (constant aperture zooms) have hoods with a push button locking mechanism on them. I'm still trying to picture how they come off. Something hitting the hood like walking in the woods or just the jostling of the camera?
I guess a little duck tape! No seriously, maybe a little Gaffers tape when in situations you find this an issue.
ProTapes Pro Gaff Matte Cloth Gaffer's Tape with Rubber Adhesive (http://smile.amazon.com/ProTapes-Pro-Gaffers-Adhesive-Thickness/dp/B00J4I9GNG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418931033&sr=8-1&keywords=gaffers+tape)
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I was so infuriated at the lens hood falling-off Sony A-mount lenses, that I complained about it in a review comment on the Sony website.
A few months later, an email notified me that someone had replied to my review. The reply kindly informed me that the lens hood must be twisted past the first hint of resistance, and would then lock-in-place.
Sure enough, as-long-as I put the lens hood on properly it doesn't fall off ;-)
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I was so infuriated at the lens hood falling-off Sony A-mount lenses, that I complained about it in a review comment on the Sony website.
A few months later, an email notified me that someone had replied to my review. The reply kindly informed me that the lens hood must be twisted past the first hint of resistance, and would then lock-in-place.
Sure enough, as-long-as I put the lens hood on properly it doesn't fall off ;-)
Had not thought that one might not twist it all the way. Every bayonet hood/lens body is designed that way. You have to twist it to the point of clicking in to the detents. The newer Nikons have a little button that must be pushed to twist it back past that detent.
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Didn't want to break it :-)
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I use gaffer's tape on several hoods that have caused problems in the past. In particular, the new Canon 24-70 mk II hood, with its push button lock, is awful - the lock unlocks all the time and the hood falls off while I'm walking around. Lots of gaff tape on that one :)
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Another vote for gaffer's tape.
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+1 for gaffer's tape but the fishing line method sounds good also!
However, I keep bumping mine and cracking/breaking shades. My solution is to by the cheap ones on-line 2-3 at a time for regular replacement.
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I was so infuriated at the lens hood falling-off Sony A-mount lenses, that I complained about it in a review comment on the Sony website.
A few months later, an email notified me that someone had replied to my review. The reply kindly informed me that the lens hood must be twisted past the first hint of resistance, and would then lock-in-place.
Sure enough, as-long-as I put the lens hood on properly it doesn't fall off ;-)
I take it you have your lens cap permanently in place which is the reason why you don't have any images to post here? ;) :)
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I take it you have nothing to say about the topic being discussed.
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After losing another hood in the last week (first I found) I think I need a better method.
A product catalog arrived in the mail: I haven't needed to try them, but perhaps these 3rd party lens hoods (http://www.vellogear.com/listing?category=17774) might work better for you.
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A product catalog arrived in the mail: I haven't needed to try them, but perhaps these 3rd party lens hoods (http://www.vellogear.com/listing?category=17774) might work better for you.
I already have one on the way from BH, will see how it works.
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I buy lens hoods and caps in bulk. They all fall off. At least since I've standardized my m43 kit so all the lenses take 58mm caps, I can share as needed. Not so easy with hoods.
Maybe a little glue on the lens cap ... Going for that noir image look.
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I buy lens hoods and caps in bulk. They all fall off. At least since I've standardized my m43 kit so all the lenses take 58mm caps, I can share as needed. Not so easy with hoods.
Maybe a little glue on the lens cap ... Going for that noir image look.
You might need different lenses then. Obviously my Nikkors with screw in hoods never fall off (e.g. 85mm f/1.8D). Both the 80-200mm f/2.8D and the 70-200mm f/2.8G VR II plastic bayonets never fall off. The older lens hood just clicked in while the newer one has a tab that must be pressed to release the hood, otherwise you have to break it to get it off. Same with the 24-70mm f/2.8G. Even older primes with metal bayonet hoods don't fall off regularly unless you don't put them on correctly, though through the wood you can get them to come off with enough branch strikes.
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I use a lens cap leash. I stick the adhesive disk on the side of the lens hood and put the elastic loop over the lens. That way if my lens hood becomes detached, it will hang from the lens and probably bump against my leg, thereby alerting me.
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Gaffers tape has worked well for this type of thing for decades.
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Years ago in frustration about how lens back-caps became sloppy over time with repeated use, I looked at why this was happening. With backcaps it's the plastic lug that wears a bit thin, thus leading to a sloppy cap than can fall off. So the quick and dirty fix was to hit the lug pretty hard with flame from a gas cigarette lighter until it just about caught fire at which point it expands. It's pretty easy to manage and you get another few years from the tightened cap.
More recently after losing my second lens hood on my Canon 24-70 f/2.8II I bought a couple of cheapie eBay hoods and tried the same technique, though MUCH more carefully. Look and determine which lug on the hood actually makes the lock onto the lens and hit this with more modest heat, just going a bit at a time and experimenting. Ta-da! nice tight hoods. Ah the magic of fire...
-pw
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Years ago in frustration about how lens back-caps became sloppy over time with repeated use, I looked at why this was happening. With backcaps it's the plastic lug that wears a bit thin, thus leading to a sloppy cap than can fall off. So the quick and dirty fix was to hit the lug pretty hard with flame from a gas cigarette lighter until it just about caught fire at which point it expands. It's pretty easy to manage and you get another few years from the tightened cap.
More recently after losing my second lens hood on my Canon 24-70 f/2.8II I bought a couple of cheapie eBay hoods and tried the same technique, though MUCH more carefully. Look and determine which lug on the hood actually makes the lock onto the lens and hit this with more modest heat, just going a bit at a time and experimenting. Ta-da! nice tight hoods. Ah the magic of fire...
-pw
I'm wondering how you could loose the lens hood on the Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II. It has a lock button that need to be pressed to turn it back again to take it off. You must not have turned it into locking position. The same design is used on the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II and 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II lenses and the do not fall off if locked into position. If not in position you could also have a bit of unwanted vignetting.
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"I guess a little duck tape!"
One of life's little mysteries, it's duct tape. However, so many people get it wrong that duck tape is now acceptable!
No offence meant, just an observation.
Cheers,
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I'm wondering how you could loose the lens hood on the Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II. It has a lock button that need to be pressed to turn it back again to take it off. You must not have turned it into locking position. The same design is used on the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II and 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II lenses and the do not fall off if locked into position. If not in position you could also have a bit of unwanted vignetting.
It's a perfectly reasonable point Hans. Though a number of posters in this thread have the same experience. My 70-200 f/2.8isII hood has always stayed put. The lost 24-70 f/2.8II hoods have both unhitched at very crowded events where bumps and pushes in crowds with the camera at my side have done the job. That hood lock seems fine in the studio or passive environments, but that's not where I always work. I haven't lost a modified hood for over twelve months now so all good! But I have had 600EX-RT speedlights get busted in crowds too. They're designed to break when a given pressure is reached to avoid damage to the prism. It's a reasonably inexpensive fix, just a bit of a nuisance having to get over to CPS when it happens, not to mention getting the job finished properly. There's always a spare in the bag.
-pw
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It's a perfectly reasonable point Hans. Though a number of posters in this thread have the same experience. My 70-200 f/2.8isII hood has always stayed put. The lost 24-70 f/2.8II hoods have both unhitched at very crowded events where bumps and pushes in crowds with the camera at my side have done the job. That hood lock seems fine in the studio or passive environments, but that's not where I always work. I haven't lost a modified hood for over twelve months now so all good! But I have had 600EX-RT speedlights get busted in crowds too. They're designed to break when a given pressure is reached to avoid damage to the prism. It's a reasonably inexpensive fix, just a bit of a nuisance having to get over to CPS when it happens, not to mention getting the job finished properly. There's always a spare in the bag.
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Point taken :)
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I'm wondering how you could loose the lens hood on the Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II. It has a lock button that need to be pressed to turn it back again to take it off. You must not have turned it into locking position.
That hood is the worst offender for me. The push button gets pushed and the hood falls off while the camera is being carried over my shoulder. Happened several times, and yes I do know how to attach the hood properly. It also happens when taking the lens out of a roller bag, any slight twisting motion and off pops the hood, since the button is pushed the whole time inside the compartment.
I fixed it with the proper application of gaffer's tape. Lots of tape.
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That hood is the worst offender for me. The push button gets pushed and the hood falls off while the camera is being carried over my shoulder. Happened several times, and yes I do know how to attach the hood properly. It also happens when taking the lens out of a roller bag, any slight twisting motion and off pops the hood, since the button is pushed the whole time inside the compartment.
I fixed it with the proper application of gaffer's tape. Lots of tape.
I agree that it is easier to push than e.g. the longer mk II lenses. I normally turn the shade the opposite way when I put the camera in the bag and turn it around again when taking the camera out. If I did not do this I have also experienced what you mention.
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"I guess a little duck tape!"
One of life's little mysteries, it's duct tape. However, so many people get it wrong that duck tape is now acceptable!
No offence meant, just an observation.
Cheers,
Actually both terms are correct.
Adhesive tape made with Cotton Duck (a specific weave of canvas) was manufactured during WWII. It was not until after the war that the Melvin A. Anderson Company acquired the rights to the tape design and sold it as Duct Tape. In the 1960's Albert Arno, Inc trademarked the term "Ductape" for their brand of fabric based adhesive tape. When the Melvin Anderson company was sold in the early 1970's, the new company trademarked the term "Duck Tape".
What is particulary interesting is that Duct Tape is not supposed to be used on AC Ducting according to the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory... Ok, probably interesting only to me. ;D
Probably much more than you every wanted to know about tape. ;D
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After losing another hood in the last week (first I found) I think I need a better method.
Last one I lost while carrying the camera on the tripod over my shoulder. One solution would be to take it off, but I have to do it every time and my OCD might not be strong enough.
Any other solutions, something like securing the hood to the lens if not too clumsy?
PS. it was a Nikon, much easier to put on vs the Fuji but easier to come off also
Yep, it's been mentioned before that Nikon lens hoods and cap (both ends) are an absolute pain to keep in place. I have to put rubber bands around lenses that aren't being used to keep the protection from falling off. Was never a problem on the Pentax!
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Actually both terms are correct.
Adhesive tape made with Cotton Duck (a specific weave of canvas) was manufactured during WWII. It was not until after the war that the Melvin A. Anderson Company acquired the rights to the tape design and sold it as Duct Tape. In the 1960's Albert Arno, Inc trademarked the term "Ductape" for their brand of fabric based adhesive tape. When the Melvin Anderson company was sold in the early 1970's, the new company trademarked the term "Duck Tape".
What is particulary interesting is that Duct Tape is not supposed to be used on AC Ducting according to the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory... Ok, probably interesting only to me. ;D
Probably much more than you every wanted to know about tape. ;D
Ah the joy's of going off topic! It's these little nuggets that make nonsense of those proclamations that insist we stick rigidly to the subject in hand like monks earnestly preserving their chastity.
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Yep, it's been mentioned before that Nikon lens hoods and cap (both ends) are an absolute pain to keep in place. I have to put rubber bands around lenses that aren't being used to keep the protection from falling off. Was never a problem on the Pentax!
...so try the technique I mentioned earlier in this thread:
With backcaps it's the plastic lug that wears a bit thin, thus leading to a sloppy cap than can fall off. So the quick and dirty fix was to hit the lug pretty hard with flame from a gas cigarette lighter until it just about caught fire at which point it expands. It's pretty easy to manage and you get another few years from the tightened cap.
-pw