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Title: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Rockskip on October 05, 2014, 05:39:28 pm
I'm looking for a high quality printer for a coffee table book for a client. 11x14", ~200 copies, hard bound. There are lots of short run digital presses out there, but I would love to hear from anyone with actual experience with particular printers. For this project, quality is key. Thanks!
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Mark D Segal on October 05, 2014, 05:59:45 pm
I'm looking for a high quality printer for a coffee table book for a client. 11x14", ~200 copies, hard bound. There are lots of short run digital presses out there, but I would love to hear from anyone with actual experience with particular printers. For this project, quality is key. Thanks!

Pikto (http://www.pikto.com/cad/photobooks-overview) Pikto produces very fine quality. They are located in Toronto but they ship internationally.
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: dtg printer on October 06, 2014, 05:23:03 pm
Thanks Mark, I am looking for that kind of printer too..
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Rockskip on October 08, 2014, 08:09:36 pm
Thanks for the information! In looking at their website it seems that they are focused on albums rather than books.
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Mark D Segal on October 08, 2014, 08:13:09 pm
I had them do a REAL BOOK and it was very, very good. So did a friend. As I live here in Toronto, I've also seen samples of their products at their place of work and I assure you they do make books. If you are interested in whether they can meet your needs, best is to get in touch with them and ask.
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Rockskip on October 08, 2014, 08:37:22 pm
Thank you so much for the 1st hand experience! I will definitely contact them
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Rockskip on October 08, 2014, 08:38:46 pm
Now I see the problem -- I looked at PiCto books not Pikto Books...
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Mark D Segal on October 08, 2014, 08:40:16 pm
OK - the first word of my first reply is a hyperlink. Click on it and it will take you to the right guys.  :-)
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Jim Kasson on October 09, 2014, 04:27:58 pm
Pikto (http://www.pikto.com/cad/photobooks-overview) Pikto produces very fine quality. They are located in Toronto but they ship internationally.

These are done on an Indigo, right? Anybody have a good source for short-run offset books?

Jim
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Mark D Segal on October 09, 2014, 04:38:10 pm
No idea what they print with. They don't say on the site. Regarding quantity, I think they can make pretty much any size print run you need. Best is to contact them.
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Jim Kasson on October 09, 2014, 04:53:58 pm
No idea what they print with. They don't say on the site.

From their price list:

(http://www.kasson.com/ll/pikto.PNG)

I was looking for offset printing.

Jim
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Mark D Segal on October 09, 2014, 05:01:37 pm
Ah - OK, I didn't click that link :-).
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Wayne Fox on October 09, 2014, 05:20:34 pm
I wasn't didn't even know you could get short runs with offset presses but some searching turns up quite a few. I see the dilemma now.  Hard to get photographers feedback. possibly searching based on company name to see what turns up? 

I found this list

 http://bookmarket.com/101print.htm
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Jim Kasson on October 09, 2014, 05:26:41 pm
I wasn't didn't even know you could get short runs with offset presses but some searching turns up quite a few. I see the dilemma now.  Hard to get photographers feedback.

Yes, that's the problem as I see it. There are no end of choices, and if you're going to invest $10,000 or $20,000 in a project, you want to have high confidence in the outcome. If you work with a design firm, that's one of the things that you (may) get, but that ratchets up the costs even more.

Jim
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Mark D Segal on October 09, 2014, 05:27:03 pm
Jim's answer may well be right on this website if they are still operational:

Bangladesh (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/100-books.shtml)

I have a copy of Michael's book and I have seen the original photographs beside it. The printing job was REALLY very well done.
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Benoite on October 09, 2014, 05:32:29 pm
Ive printed soft cover brochures with these guys: print24 (http://www.print24.com/uk) and the quality has been decent considering the price. All online based so cant really call the printers themselves or anything, just customer service. But its still fine.
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Jim Kasson on October 09, 2014, 05:47:03 pm
Jim's answer may well be right on this website if they are still operational:

Bangladesh (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/100-books.shtml)

I have a copy of Michael's book and I have seen the original photographs beside it. The printing job was REALLY very well done.

That's great, Mark. Thanks!

[Added later: Unfortunately, the printer's site appears moribund. Still, it was great to read about the process.]

Jim
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: mlondon on October 10, 2014, 07:28:01 pm
Call Ben Zlotkin at EditionOne in Berkeley, CA
+1 (510) 705-1930
info@editiononebooks.com
http://www.editiononebooks.com

Tell him Matthew London from The Spirit of Tea sent you.
They do absolutely top quality work.

Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: Andrew Makiejewski on October 19, 2014, 09:52:14 pm
I have used PhotoBook Canada twice and am extremely pleased with their print books. My first one was a Landscape XL at 11.5' x 17" with 62 pages. It was done in Malaysia, and shipped here very quickly. Had a smaller one done about 1.5 years ago and it was printed here in Canada.

I tried Pikto last year, but was not pleased with the results. The greys were quite grainy, the darks were plugged up pretty bad and the gamut was pretty small. I know they have a new printer which should be an improvement. When I get enough new images that I want to put into a book, will try them again. I sent the exact same images to be done in Mississauga by PictureBook and the quality was much better, although you could see some roller marks if you hold the page a certain angles, but the image quality was way better.

Andrew

I'm looking for a high quality printer for a coffee table book for a client. 11x14", ~200 copies, hard bound. There are lots of short run digital presses out there, but I would love to hear from anyone with actual experience with particular printers. For this project, quality is key. Thanks!
Title: Re: Quality coffee table book printers?
Post by: wolfnowl on October 20, 2014, 04:27:48 am
This is a few years old, but it might still be relevant:

http://www.digitalhomethoughts.com/news/show/97676/14/1/15

Mike.