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Equipment & Techniques => Cameras, Lenses and Shooting gear => Topic started by: Theodoros on September 10, 2014, 05:03:45 pm
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......only much better priced! ....NR just posted the specs.
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/09/10/nikon-d750-specifications-leaked-online.aspx/
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Compact and light got my attention! I guess we find out soon the exact weight.
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Compact and light got my attention! I guess we find out soon the exact weight.
A perfect match for the Otus 85mm f1.4! ;)
Cheers,
Bernard
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......only much better priced! ....NR just posted the specs.
No, they've posted a rumour.
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No, they've posted a rumour.
We should know in 18 hours and 28 minutes if the other rumor they posted about the date of annoucement is correct. ;)
Cheers,
Bernard
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No, they've posted a rumour.
It's not a rumour anymore... It is actual specifications, some Nikon dealers (I don't agree with the policy) have opened preorder lists... Actually I may have opened the discussion a bit early, but there are images of the camera expected within hours, Nikon has invited people for the presentation of the camera and specs are an official ..."leak" (as it is usual with makers). After all this discussion will still be open with the official announcement of the product.
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Announced! http://nikonrumors.com/2014/09/12/press-release-nikon-d750-sb-500-speedlight-nikkor-20mm-f1-8g-ed-lens.aspx/#more-80364
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Not really very interesting a D610 with a few extra bits and a price ramp
Can't see D700 users running to this
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Some nice features, particularly in focussing & metering. The wi-fi & movie stuff holds little interest for me. A second-hand D800 looks a more promising option, and cheaper too.
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Dont get the naming -why 750? Why's Nikon progressed like that?
And what's the big deal about rebadged 610?/600?
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Not really very interesting a D610 with a few extra bits and a price ramp
Can't see D700 users running to this
I don't agree, Barry. Early this year I switched to a D800 and really miss the D700's high frame rate for some of the action stuff I shoot. The extra bits aren't trivial either - video, for example. I've loved articulated screens on cameras like the Fuji XT1 and would use it for casual people shots or to save some of the rolling around on the ground photographing mushrooms, while the wifi will probably enable remote shooting without a Camranger or other third party gear. If I'd been switching now, I might still have gone to the 810 (despite a fixed screen and no wifi) but I can certainly see D700 users finding the 750 very attractive.
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When the D810 was announced, I wrote on this fery forum "Nikon has its MkIII".
That was mistaken, it should have been "Nikon has its MkV".
This is the MkIII. ;)
Cheers,
Bernard
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Not really very interesting a D610 with a few extra bits and a price ramp
Can't see D700 users running to this
True... this product has nothing to do with D700, it is clearly a "5Dmkii upgrade" or a "5Dmkiii alternative" as everybody is noticing... A D700 replacement would be a D4/D4S downgrade as was D700 with respect to D3/D3S... ???
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Not really very interesting a D610 with a few extra bits and a price ramp
Can't see D700 users running to this
I can't (see D700 users running to this) either, it's obviously a "stupid" choice of name to emphasise on its "fast" (faster than the rest "commercial" of Nikons) pace. :-\
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Dont get the naming -why 750? Why's Nikon progressed like that?
And what's the big deal about rebadged 610?/600?
I can't see the (stupid) naming to be the problem... It's clearly not a D700 replacement (that's where the clearly "marketing" naming suffers), but other than the name it seems a pretty good product for the customers that it addresses to... (not the D700 of course...), in fact, I wonder if the bad naming will do some damage to the sales of the camera... :-\ I wonder what some "golden boys of crap" are thinking when marketing a product... :P ? ...are they "completely stupid" or what? :D
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No this is Nikon's version of the Sony A7 very compact all new body plus new mirror shutter assembly but full frame same/similar Sony sensor as the A7. Initial retail price is the same as Sony A7R. Maybe this will end up as a replacement for the problematic 6X0 Nikon BTW I already got preorder ads from B&H and Adorama complete with detailed specs and pictures this morning footprint wise it looks to be a similar size as the Canon SL1.
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Nikon just keeps beating the same drum. Sony is eating their lunch. When are we going to have a Nikon FX mirrorless?
This reminds me of the days when we all moaned about when was Nikon going to go full frame. It seemed to take forever.
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No this is Nikon's version of the Sony A7.......
Sure, it even is mirrorless! ;D Main reason why SLR users hate mirrorless is the absence of an optical TTL view, it's what they've been brought up with, what they can function with and what is their main idea about using a DSLR... In other words, "their eye doesn't function digitally"! ;) There after, there are plenty that may compare beers with wine, apples with oranges, spirits against drinks, Ferraris against VW, trousers with regard to skirts, sail boats against motorboats, single ended stereos against push-pull multi transistor monsters, turntables against CDs, or Earth against Mars... It's their right, nobody can stop them from comparing the incomparable! ???
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This reminds me of the days when we all moaned about when was Nikon going to go full frame. It seemed to take forever.
True. They are slow.
On the other hand, they mostly get it very right when they move.
Now, I personally think that the D810 has the exact right size for "dedicated" photography and smaller would only help for casual photography... although my new a5100 already works extremely well for that part.
Cheers,
Bernard
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I like most everything about this except for...THE FREAKING STUPID DIAL interface.
I 'downgraded' from a D300 to a D7100 and love most everything about the D7100 except for the DIAL. The button interface on the D300 and other 'pro' cameras is so much easier and faster to use and you never have to pull the camera from your eye to change settings. Since every setting on a modern camera is set electronically, if they implement named banks where you could set and store every setting, I cold live with this.
I'll compare the D810 to D750 and decide. I would like the extra shooting speed for the sports I shoot, but I can always use the D7100 for sports and the D810 for my other photography endeavors.
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I'm in the market for a capable video and still camera, was almost going Canon, but now; having a 5D MkIII like camere for 1100 dollars less is really tempting!
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I'm in the market for a capable video and still camera, was almost going Canon, but now; having a 5D MkIII like camere for 1100 dollars less is really tempting!
I believe that they did this camera specifically to attack the video market... There is a tendency into (photo) forums for people to think about them selves only, their needs or past experience, but makers still make products to attract (what they believe will be) more customers.
Reasons why I believe this product targets (mainly) the video enthusiast (other than specs): 1. The tilting screen, 2. The choice of sensor (24mp) is ideal for video because it uses exactly 9 pixels for each pixel required for 1080x1920 resolution (there is about 4% difference in image size but this is cropped out), if the user chooses to use the camera in APS-c mode, he then needs exactly 4 pixels to achieve the same resolution. 3. The camera is said to be particularly "quiet" for high ISO LL video....
The above is exactly the same as 5Dmkiii approach, having a very good stills camera in addition to video, only improves the product's appeal further... Now if one doesn't like "this or that dial", or the body strength, or the FPS, or the resolution, or the flash sync, they don't give a dime in Nikon (and neither would I) and they are right IMO to think so.... ;)
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The choice of sensor (24mp) is ideal for video because it uses exactly 9 pixels for each pixel required for 1080x1920 resolution
you can't readout 24mp sensels out of this sensor @ 30p or 60p rate ... so it will not be 9 sensels binning.
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you can't readout 24mp sensels out of this sensor @ 30p or 60p rate ... so it will not be 9 sensels binning.
It's not 24mp you read... it's cropped down to 1920x3 horizontally, (but it's not 1920x3 what is read either) and 9:16 of that vertically... Canon 5d mk iii does exactly the same but without cropping and it can't give an APS-c equivalent either... because Canon's APS-c size is 1.6x (rather than just subtract a pixel out of three)... The read is not 9 pixels for each (imaginary) "pixel" of the one needed for 1920x1080 resolution... only four of the pixels (2greens, one red and one blue) out of nine are interpolated for colour...
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I like most everything about this except for...THE FREAKING STUPID DIAL interface.
+1
This is the primary reason I would never buy the D750 and also do not consider it to be a D700 replacement... I will happily continue using the D800e and maybe upgrade in a year or 2 (or not).
I would definitely bought a D4 in a small form factor packaging...
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Sure, it even is mirrorless! ;D Main reason why SLR users hate mirrorless is the absence of an optical TTL view, it's what they've been brought up with, what they can function with and what is their main idea about using a DSLR... In other words, "their eye doesn't function digitally"! ;) There after, there are plenty that may compare beers with wine, apples with oranges, spirits against drinks, Ferraris against VW, trousers with regard to skirts, sail boats against motorboats, single ended stereos against push-pull multi transistor monsters, turntables against CDs, or Earth against Mars... It's their right, nobody can stop them from comparing the incomparable! ???
Having been brought up with optical viewfinders and recently having tried electronic viewfinders, I now find seriously OVFs lacking. I'll be amazed if they last another decade outside of retro camera styling. WISYWIG transformed computing and this is WISYWIG for your viewfinder. One of the main benefits for me will finally being able to accurately focus manual lenses that are faster than f2.8 and actually see how the image looks at the actual depth of field. Hard to properly compose an f1.4 image when it looks so different in the viewfinder.
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I believe that they did this camera specifically to attack the video market... There is a tendency into (photo) forums for people to think about them selves only, their needs or past experience, but makers still make products to attract (what they believe will be) more customers.
[My Bolding]Even worse when they complain about a camera that was very definitely not even aimed at them.
Reasons why I believe this product targets (mainly) the video enthusiast (other than specs): 1. The tilting screen, 2. The choice of sensor (24mp) is ideal for video because it uses exactly 9 pixels for each pixel required for 1080x1920 resolution (there is about 4% difference in image size but this is cropped out), if the user chooses to use the camera in APS-c mode, he then needs exactly 4 pixels to achieve the same resolution. 3. The camera is said to be particularly "quiet" for high ISO LL video....
Very sensible thinking if that's why they chose those specs.
The above is exactly the same as 5Dmkiii approach, having a very good stills camera in addition to video, only improves the product's appeal further... Now if one doesn't like "this or that dial", or the body strength, or the FPS, or the resolution, or the flash sync, they don't give a dime in Nikon (and neither would I) and they are right IMO to think so.... ;)
So are you saying they learnt from their attempt at a retro camera that eschewed video .
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Finally a tilting screen. Nikon needs to realize this is essential for any and all cameras. Especially the bigger brother D8/810 type cameras. Had the D810 come with a tilting screen I would have upgraded the 800E. I tend to always place it low on a tripod and do some acrobatics to view either screen or viewfinder. Horrible.
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Finally a tilting screen. Nikon needs to realize this is essential for any and all cameras. Especially the bigger brother D8/810 type cameras. Had the D810 come with a tilting screen I would have upgraded the 800E. I tend to always place it low on a tripod and do some acrobatics to view either screen or viewfinder. Horrible.
You could buy a camranger instead
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You could buy a camranger instead
You could also save the money...
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Finally a tilting screen. Nikon needs to realize this is essential for any and all cameras.
As does Canon.
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Essential?
You mean there's never been a good shot taken without a tilting screen?
I'd say, it's "plus" (in some situations), but based on millions of good photographs being taken without one, it is pretty far from being "essential" ...
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Tilting screens are certainly preferable to twisty ones for high end cameras if you ask me as the latter have never looked very robust.
I don't think Nikon targeted the D750 specifically at one existing camera but rather at several...
Cheaper/smaller version of the 5D3, might not appeal to all professional users but likely to a lot of the amature market after an all rounder.
Better speced competition for the 6D, besides the shutter issue with the D600 I think Canon got the better of Nikon by having there camera better targeted. The D600 and 6D both had advantages in different areas but the 6D seemed more clearly aimed at low light shooting with its -3 EV AF and high ISO DR, the D600 didn't have so clearly defined a market. The D750 on the other hand matches or beats the 6D almost everywhere.
Sony a7, the D750 is only very slightly smaller/lighter of course but I think by improving the AF Nikon is maximising its advantage there.
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Essential?
You mean there's never been a good shot taken without a tilting screen?
I'd say, it's "plus" (in some situations), but based on millions of good photographs being taken without one, it is pretty far from being "essential" ...
I guess digital isn't essential either as millions on good photos have been taken without digital sensors. :P
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Ok so essential maybe is too strong a word but certainly up there with the most useful features. Why limit a camera for one use (eyelevel) needlessly. For a digital camera that can also record video the optical viewfinder is the plus, it's not necessary. But this is of course from my point of view. When I had a fully articulated screen I used it almost every time. So glad to see it in a new Nikon.