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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: churly on April 15, 2014, 07:50:47 pm

Title: Landscape? Street?
Post by: churly on April 15, 2014, 07:50:47 pm
1) Early Morning on the Balcony After a Late Night.  Thinking of Sleep
2) Memories Dancing in the Pavilion at Midnight
3) Organic

Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: RSL on April 15, 2014, 07:56:31 pm
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Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 15, 2014, 08:07:46 pm
I think #3 turned out surprisingly well for the genre.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: chuckn on April 15, 2014, 09:39:08 pm
Chuck, I like all of them. #2 is my favorite.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 15, 2014, 11:39:13 pm
Not landscape, not street. Abstracts!
All good ones.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: Bruce Cox on April 16, 2014, 09:43:16 am
I like the sides, top and bottom of #1.  I think the middle needs to do more or maybe less.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 16, 2014, 09:50:29 am
I like the sides, top and bottom of #1.  I think the middle needs to do more or maybe less.

Bruce, may I nominate this for the Critique of the Year? ;)
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: RSL on April 16, 2014, 09:51:45 am
Chuck, Have you considered painting?
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: Bruce Cox on April 16, 2014, 01:03:26 pm
Bruce, may I nominate this for the Critique of the Year? ;)

In that case, I may use it again.

Bruce
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: Bruce Cox on April 16, 2014, 01:56:07 pm
Chuck, Have you considered painting?

Fallowing Russ suggestion in a way, I have found #3 to be a flexable and durable image, standing up to my crude colorizing fairly well.  If I may?

Bruce
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on April 16, 2014, 03:21:45 pm
I'm quite fond of number two.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: petermfiore on April 16, 2014, 03:34:22 pm
Chuck, Have you considered painting?
Painting NO. This is most definitely photography. Just not your cup of tea Russ.

Peter
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: RSL on April 16, 2014, 04:02:44 pm
I'd agree with you, Peter, except I've seen painting do the same thing far better than photography ever could do it. You're right, it's not my cuppa tea, not even in painting, but with paint you can do things you can't even get close to doing with photography.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: churly on April 16, 2014, 05:03:27 pm
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Interesting and varied viewpoints.

Russ, I presume that your comment is asking the question - Why did I post these?  My objective was to reiterate Slobodan's earlier comment that it seems like multiple genres should be able to coexist in the forum.  Clearly, the fact that you don't like these is not a universal viewpoint but is a perfectly valid view.  I enjoy your street work but I also think that Lula is better off and more interesting if there is room for differences, fun and some experimentation.  I've noticed that some (not all) of the folks that used to post somewhat edgier material here have drifted away.

Bruce - I like your version.  It has a bit more soul than mine.  Also your prize critique is spot on.  :)

Russ - I am interested in photography as the medium.  Again, if you don't like the results that's fine but give the rest of us a bit of slack to work outside of your comfort zone.  My view is that there is oodles of story and ambiguity in these shots.

All the best to all of you.  Personally I'm rooting for a more varied and open critique forum.  Clearly Eric's Abstracts thread has had a lot of interest.
Chuck

Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: amolitor on April 20, 2014, 05:14:43 pm
Photographic abstracts have a harder row to hoe than abstract paintings. A photo is always of something, there is no denying that there was something there in front of the lens, the photographer is simply choosing to conceal what it is. So you're starting off in a bad place with the viewer.

Am I supposed to figure out what it is? Or not? Can I? A degree of frustration and potential annoyance is built in.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: petermfiore on April 20, 2014, 09:36:06 pm
For everyone out there blurry is NOT abstraction . Blurry is just that, blurry. Also, GOOD abstraction is not easier.

Peter

PS.  I happen to like blur in photographs.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: amolitor on April 21, 2014, 06:27:15 am
Blur, by reducing the representational character of the photograph, necessarily increases the abstraction.

This is not to see that a blurry photograph is an abstract photograph. That is a subtly different statement.

These photographs are abstracts, as far as I can see, though.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: Bruce Cox on April 21, 2014, 10:20:11 am
The term "abstract" means two different things in the different realms of painting and photography.  In painting "abstract" means: modified by thought and experience.  In photography "abstract" means:  untouched by thought or experience.  They are both good things, though they can lead people to talk, or shout, past each other.

I was a painter first and it may be best for me to avoid the word abstract when in this forum.
Title: Re: Landscape? Street?
Post by: petermfiore on April 21, 2014, 11:47:35 am

I was a painter first and it may be best for me to avoid the word abstract when in this forum.
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I agree for me as well.

Peter