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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: Jeremy Roussak on March 29, 2014, 02:56:02 pm

Title: mesa arch
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on March 29, 2014, 02:56:02 pm
Not exactly original, I know, but this one's mine! (And I got jolly cold taking it, too.) Comments?

Jeremy
Title: Re: mesa arch
Post by: sdwilsonsct on March 29, 2014, 03:48:14 pm
Not exactly original,

I don't think I've ever seen the sky sliced so thin, and with a mountain and the sun to boot, in this kind of arch shot. Very pleasing overall.
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Post by: churly on March 29, 2014, 04:32:09 pm
Nice.  I would be glad to have this one in my collection.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 29, 2014, 06:08:55 pm
Neat! You did very well, Jeremy!
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Post by: RSL on March 29, 2014, 08:54:02 pm
Nice, Jeremy, but did we push the color saturation a bit?
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Post by: BobDavid on March 30, 2014, 10:15:56 am
Well done--love the way you handled it in post. The color is tasty, the composition is spot-on, and the image has impact.
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Post by: PeterAit on March 30, 2014, 11:55:22 am
I was there recently! I have not seen any other shot of this arch like yours. Great framing, the massveness of the arch comes across well and the sun is wonderful! I do think that the underside of the arch looks a little over-processed, at least to me. Maybe not quite so orange?
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Post by: cjogo on March 30, 2014, 12:28:14 pm
I find yours better exposed /composed then the past classics ...  great work
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Post by: William Walker on March 30, 2014, 03:50:59 pm
Really nice Jeremy!

I do not recall a picture of yours that I like more...

Well done
William
Title: Re: mesa arch
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on March 30, 2014, 05:34:23 pm
Thanks, all; you're very kind.

Nice, Jeremy, but did we push the color saturation a bit?

We might well have done, Russ; but by a lot less than you'd think. The colours are really extraordinary for those few minutes each day when the sun is in the right place1. Anyway, I strolled round Peter Lik's shop in Las Vegas when I was there last week, and the experience has reset my views on where the saturation slider should be.

Peter, you may be right about the underside, as Russ observed.

Jeremy

1 When it's not in the right place, the arch is just dull. I took a few steps back while waiting for The Moment and snapped this with my iPhone (the unattended tripod in the middle is mine).
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 30, 2014, 06:04:39 pm
The iPhone shot is definitely not your typical mesa arch photo!

In the original, which is superb, I feel that toning down the sunlit parts under the arch a little might make the scene a little more believable (and I wouldn't need my sunglasses to look at the image on my screen), even if it might end up a little less "accurate."

Eric
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Post by: Harald L on March 31, 2014, 12:02:25 am
Thanks, all; you're very kind.

We might well have done, Russ; but by a lot less than you'd think. The colours are really extraordinary for those few minutes each day when the sun is in the right place1. Anyway, I strolled round Peter Lik's shop in Las Vegas when I was there last week, and the experience has reset my views on where the saturation slider should be.

Peter, you may be right about the underside, as Russ observed.

Jeremy

1 When it's not in the right place, the arch is just dull. I took a few steps back while waiting for The Moment and snapped this with my iPhone (the unattended tripod in the middle is mine).


With this iPhone shot you've proved that in photography it's all about light.

Harald
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Post by: Tony Jay on March 31, 2014, 01:45:54 am
An absolute cracker Jeremy!
Definitely gave my serotonin levels a boost!

Tony Jay
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Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on March 31, 2014, 06:56:39 am
Great shot of a well known place.
Definitely worth getting cold for it.
Well done !
Cheers
~Chris
Title: Re: mesa arch
Post by: francois on March 31, 2014, 07:43:25 am
I like it a lot even if it's not very original. The colors are quite OK in my opinion, at least the underside of the arch. When the sun is in the right place, the rock glows like embers - almost magical.
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Post by: RSL on March 31, 2014, 09:35:18 am
To me the main thing is that Jeremy waited until exactly the right moment to catch that unusual shot. The average tourist would have lifted his phone, shot, and walked away. It's pretty obvious that Jeremy isn't the average tourist.
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Post by: RSL on March 31, 2014, 12:22:04 pm
Great advice, Isaac. How about demonstrating where you put the saturation slider with a picture?
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Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on March 31, 2014, 12:48:32 pm
Great advice, Isaac. How about demonstrating where you put the saturation slider with a picture?

Isaac is an AI bot programmed by MIT specialists.
You can't see any images from it.
Cheers
~Chris
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Post by: RSL on March 31, 2014, 01:12:27 pm
Sounds good. Show us! Just talking about it doesn't convey any useful information.
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Post by: Jim Pascoe on March 31, 2014, 02:53:28 pm
Jeremy

1 When it's not in the right place, the arch is just dull. I took a few steps back while waiting for The Moment and snapped this with my iPhone (the unattended tripod in the middle is mine).


Ha - lovely but yes, not quite original.  I saw another picture recently of the same scene (not as nice as yours) and my thought was I wonder if the photographer is miles from any other living being or he surrounded by others and the place full of tripod holes.  Well your iPhone snap answered that one.  There must be loads of other arched around though- aren't there.....? ;D

Jim (green with envy)
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Post by: RSL on March 31, 2014, 04:18:07 pm
I put "the saturation slider" where ever I feel like putting it.

Who doesn't? But that doesn't show us where you put it with various pictures, Isaac. In fact it doesn't tell us anything. Photography is a visual art, Isaac. To instruct in photography you need to show examples.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 31, 2014, 05:41:22 pm
I'm sorry you find this so difficult to understand -- I put "the saturation slider" where ever I feel like putting it.
I guess the alternative would be "I put the saturation slider where ever I don't feel like putting it, which is why I don't like any of my own photos."   ???
Title: Re: mesa arch
Post by: Chris Calohan on March 31, 2014, 05:57:51 pm
Well, I like it..as is regardless of the possible oversat under the arch. I've been there when you would be afraid to touch any part of it because it seemed to be on fire.
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Post by: Jason Denning on April 01, 2014, 12:39:05 am
When I was at arches national park I avoided Mesa Arch for the very reason that it is over shot, yes it's amazing but it's boring seeing the same pictures from there all the time.

Ha - lovely but yes, not quite original.  I saw another picture recently of the same scene (not as nice as yours) and my thought was I wonder if the photographer is miles from any other living being or he surrounded by others and the place full of tripod holes.  Well your iPhone snap answered that one.  There must be loads of other arched around though- aren't there.....? ;D

Jim (green with envy)
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on April 01, 2014, 03:47:59 am
When I was at arches national park I avoided Mesa Arch

Easy to do, really; it's in Canyonlands.

Jeremy
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Post by: muntanela on April 01, 2014, 11:07:41 am
When I was at arches national park I avoided Mesa Arch for the very reason that it is over shot, yes it's amazing but it's boring seeing the same pictures from there all the time.

Ha - lovely but yes, not quite original.  I saw another picture recently of the same scene (not as nice as yours) and my thought was I wonder if the photographer is miles from any other living being or he surrounded by others and the place full of tripod holes.  Well your iPhone snap answered that one.  There must be loads of other arched around though- aren't there.....? ;D

Jim (green with envy)


Obviously the first (very good) photo receives its meaning from the second. These photos remind us that even when you think you are completely alone in the wilderness, you are accompanied by the virtual crowd of the photographers. All of us are clichés, not just our photos.
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Post by: Isaac on April 01, 2014, 12:29:13 pm
Show us! Just talking about it doesn't convey any useful information.

Suffice it to say that "talking about it" is exactly what your posts in this discussion thread have done.
Title: Re: mesa arch
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on April 01, 2014, 12:33:32 pm
Suffice it to say that "talking about it" is exactly what your posts in this discussion thread have done.

I must say, they have really well programmed your evasion module ... :P