Luminous Landscape Forum
Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Chris Barrett on January 23, 2014, 05:31:15 pm
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This would be a really cool pairing, new camera platform with a CMOS digital back! (To be honest I could not care less about the back ... unless they are offering a 50 MP CCD version with long exposure capabilities too ;), but the camera may be worth looking at.)
However, I kind of feel Photokina would be when they announce it, if it exists.
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silhouette looks a lot like the DF/DF+ but I am sure that is gamesmanship!
Paul
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It's not a new camera. It's the new CMOS back on the old DF+ (or DF++ or whatever). That's why it looks like the silhouette of the DF+.
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might be the rumored IQ250 CMOS back
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I am not sure if it is just the DF+. My feelings are unless the new back is 16-bits and they provide a new camera that can compete with the features of DSLRs, this IQ250 will fail.
A new camera is coming, but I kind of feel the announcement would be at Photokina. Or maybe Hassy's announcement is forcing them to release it earlier than this Fall.
Guess we will see tomorrow.
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yep that's what I'd like to see
don't need high ISO but 16bit and a little snappier focus would be interesting to see
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I am not sure if it is just the DF+. My feelings are unless the new back is 16-bits and they provide a new camera that can compete with the features of DSLRs, this IQ250 will fail.
As much as I loath my DF+ I don't see why the IQ250 would fail because of it. I absolutely agree that Phase zone / Mamiya need to move forward their bodies ten years but that shouldn't detract from an innovative back at least.
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Isn't it a toaster with a revolutionary bread side loading mechanism?
Cheers,
Bernard
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The only things I dislike about the DF+ are how it takes a rocket scientist to figure out how to set custom functions and how cheap-feeling and overpriced the vertical grip is. It's otherwise quite fine for my style of work.
If there's one thing I want to change about the DF+, I'd probably ask for a better focal plane shutter that can sync at 1/200-1/250s. Will make all those older lenses much more useful.
Oh, and maybe a better texture for the hand grip.
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As much as I loath my DF+ I don't see why the IQ250 would fail because of it. I absolutely agree that Phase zone / Mamiya need to move forward their bodies ten years but that shouldn't detract from an innovative back at least.
I am afraid they will yet again bring out a new and very high quality back, and a shiny new number to glue on the Mamiya body.
Edmund
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The sample photos from the IQ250 that were up on Phase One's website yesterday were shot with a DF+. It would be a little odd if they were to have a new camera ready to show off with the IQ250, but didn't use it for the shots.
Kind regards,
Gerald.
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I am surprised phase one didn't try do something with the ZD camera, a great size and is seems like a good evolution.
Maybe one day we can have one with an electronic shutter then just like the backs today the cameras will last forever.
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I am amazed they haven't done anything with the Rollei/Hy6/Leaf body. When they acquired Leaf, they also got a great camera with fantastic glass.
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(http://www.phaseone.com/maintenance3.jpg)
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This is going to be interesting :)
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The marketing works...
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I'm prepared to be underwhelmed, at least it's not going to be some 120 MPixel 25asa museum/library camera
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I don't think it's DF++. They are showing a small part of the back on this picture, not of the camera.
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Its the IQ250 - website has launched.
From the website:
IQ250 highlights:
- ISO100 to ISO6400
- 14 f-stops dynamic range
- 50 megapixels captures
- Continuous workflow
- Fluid Live View
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Check out our home page article very soon.
Kevin Raber
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I am amazed they haven't done anything with the Rollei/Hy6/Leaf body. When they acquired Leaf, they also got a great camera with fantastic glass.
+1
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The only things I dislike about the DF+ are how it takes a rocket scientist to figure out how to set custom functions and how cheap-feeling and overpriced the vertical grip is. It's otherwise quite fine for my style of work.
If there's one thing I want to change about the DF+, I'd probably ask for a better focal plane shutter that can sync at 1/200-1/250s. Will make all those older lenses much more useful.
Oh, and maybe a better texture for the hand grip.
Higher sync shutter, is also what I miss on my Contax 645, if I had 1/250 I wouldn't mind leaf shutter absence at all, I believe that the lower sync on MF 6x4.5 bodies with phocal plane shutters is more a matter of Copal that builds the shutters than the maker… For sync speed to be raised, the shutter curtains have to move on a speed that exceeds the sync speed, Copal did this on 35mm Nikon bodies from the 80s (fe-2, fm-2, fa) by using titanium for the shutter curtains, but it seems that with the extra mass that MF shutters have, the kinetic Energy developed on the shutter curtains is increased to an extend where shutter reliability might be affected negatively by quite a margin… Never the less, modern materials/compounds should provide the solution… I think it is feasible, it will also make lenses cheaper and faster. (and cameras less complex)