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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: stamper on November 08, 2013, 10:43:22 am

Title: Which works best?
Post by: stamper on November 08, 2013, 10:43:22 am
Glasgow cathedral taken from the nearby Necropolis. A fantastic location for visitors to the City.
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: petermfiore on November 08, 2013, 10:44:26 am
Color for me.

Peter
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on November 08, 2013, 11:14:28 am
Depending on your processing you can do great things with both of them.
Not yet at a stage to decide.
Finish both and then re-present!
;)
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: RSL on November 08, 2013, 12:02:46 pm
I'll go with the B&W, Stamper. The color's nice, but the picture is about the cathedral spire against the clouds and the color detracts from that thrust.
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: David Eckels on November 08, 2013, 12:14:20 pm
My imagination or are the shadows opened up a little more in the B/W? Agree with Russ that the B/W focuses more on the spire, but I like the colors too.
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Mjollnir on November 08, 2013, 12:21:43 pm
Color.  Hands down.
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Post by: David Eckels on November 08, 2013, 02:04:42 pm
Now that I notice the title, necropolis or city of the dead, and realize that there are gravestones, I was thinking that the spire in the color version contributed a rather gothic atmosphere that the color version emphasizes, along with the sky. I am back to color because of the correlation with the mood of a necropolis. Probably makes no sense but then hey!
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: PeterAit on November 08, 2013, 02:13:45 pm
I find the color version a bit overdone - looking more like a painting than a photograph. If that's what you wanted then you did a great job, but I am of the (seemingly minority) position that photos should look like photos.
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: ned.ward on November 08, 2013, 02:58:51 pm
Stamper, the colour is dark and sinister, the bw is lighter and easier to digest. The whole scene is cramped in my estimation (the vegetation) but compelling. The lofty church sitting above the bodies resting place, the spirt can ascend higher into the sky space. I could go on for ages ;D and yes I am sober.

Cheers
Ned
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Rob C on November 08, 2013, 03:55:37 pm
Colour.

Rob C
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on November 08, 2013, 04:41:42 pm
Since I like to mess with other peoples images I allowed myself to go a bit over the top here.
Basically its a crazy mix between color and b/w postprocessing ...
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 08, 2013, 06:16:58 pm
Christoph,

Your version needs a witch riding on a broom in the upper left sky area.
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on November 08, 2013, 06:27:40 pm
Christoph,

Your version needs a witch riding on a broom in the upper left sky area.

I tried really hard using content aware fill on this corner, but the witch refused to appear .... :P
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Steve Weldon on November 08, 2013, 06:55:14 pm
Pardon me for saying this, but both could benefit from more time spent processing and in different ways.  Usually I'm drawn to B&W but in this case depending on the final version I might be swayed.
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on November 08, 2013, 10:47:50 pm
Colour.
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Post by: wolfnowl on November 09, 2013, 01:45:51 am
Colour for me too.

Mike.
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on November 09, 2013, 02:51:43 am
Colour for me too.

And for me.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: stamper on November 09, 2013, 03:53:03 am
Thanks for the feedback.

Quote Steve.

Pardon me for saying this, but both could benefit from more time spent processing and in different ways.  Usually I'm drawn to B&W but in this case depending on the final version I might be swayed.

Unquote

How far does one go and how different can they be? I don't believe in spending many hours on an image because the danger is it becomes a never done. I sometimes start over again on a different day with different thoughts. At the end of the day it is the photographers vision and others have their own ideas. :)
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Steve Weldon on November 09, 2013, 08:40:21 am
Thanks for the feedback.

Quote Steve.

Pardon me for saying this, but both could benefit from more time spent processing and in different ways.  Usually I'm drawn to B&W but in this case depending on the final version I might be swayed.

Unquote

How far does one go and how different can they be? I don't believe in spending many hours on an image because the danger is it becomes a never done. I sometimes start over again on a different day with different thoughts. At the end of the day it is the photographers vision and others have their own ideas. :)


I think that's exactly what it is.  I'm looking at it and thinking I'd expand the tones a bit and perhaps adjust the colour, and your eye just likes it as is.  What draws me to this photograph is the way the larger version leads your eye through the trees and to the castle, so I want to make that transition smoother and more defined at the same time.

Sometimes with my favourite images I'll go back another day and make another version and I'll keep doing this until it feels right.  Sometimes over 10 versions.

In any case it's a great image.  I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: stamper on November 09, 2013, 09:39:20 am
Thanks Steve. The "castle" is actually Glasgow Cathedral.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Glasgowcathedral.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Cathedral&h=194&w=259&sz=1&tbnid=AUbBvwt2FKHeLM:&tbnh=160&tbnw=213&zoom=1&usg=__C1QnFFpLEXAxXVuFvbrCGJcx7NE=&docid=aXiTo7vg2M6Y9M&itg=1&sa=X&ei=rEd-UrGQCIKO0AWqgAE&sqi=2&ved=0CJABEPwdMAo

Open to the public for free viewing alas being worked on - exterior wise - at the moment and the Necropolis lies behind it. Huge and interesting and hasn't had any burials for several years so nobody is getting " disturbed". Any time I am in there I keep thinking of the film Carrie from about 40 years ago where a praying women was subject to a hand coming out of the ground and clutching her. A real shocker at the time.
Title: Re: Which works best?
Post by: Steve Weldon on November 09, 2013, 11:08:56 am
Thanks for the link.  Knowing what it looks like lends perspective.  It's always fun to work an abstract and in your case make it more interesting in the process.