Luminous Landscape Forum
The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: Jeremy Roussak on September 08, 2013, 10:03:42 am
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Comments? Colour or b&w?
Jeremy
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B&W, Jeremy. But no toning. Honest B&W.
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B&W, Jeremy. But no toning. Honest B&W.
I obviously haven't seen this shot in b/white, but I don't really like toning at all - never did. I think of it as a 'mending' of something not quite right.
Rob C
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Definitely BW. And toning BW is no sin. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. It's not an -ism (at least for me).
Harald
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Definitely BW. And toning BW is no sin.
It's a sin if you're after maximum range in your print and you want max density where you clip your black points.
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It's a sin if you're after maximum range in your print and you want max density where you clip your black points.
As I already said: Sometimes it works sometimes not. Considering that most of the stuff here will never been printed we shouldn't foreclose toning in general. Just my 2 ct.
Harald
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I think about toning in much the way I think about colour in an image. If it enhances the image, it's good; otherwise, not so good. If one is trying to replicate the mood of a print from a bygone era, then sometimes toning may help, for example.
In Jeremy's image, to me the color may slightly enhance the image, but it doesn't feel essential (to me). Toning in this case just seems like a weaker version of the color, so for this image I would go for the straight, untoned B&W version.
That's my qualified prejudice.
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Definitely B&W, and I'd also lose the sepia for this one.
Mike.
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B&W.
Oh and I like the image. Where was it taken?
Ed
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Well, the consensus seems pretty clear - and I agree. The toning is from an article (http://technology.lenswork.com/2010/01/lenswork-duotones.html) describing what lenswork does, which I'd picked up recently. On reflection, I think it's a bit strong. I'll post a true ("honest") b&w when I get a moment.
Ed, thanks for the comment on the actual image :). It's one of Gaudi's creations in the Park Güell, Barcelona.
Jeremy
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B&W, Jeremy. But no toning. Honest B&W.
Your wish...
Jeremy
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Ah yes. Much better. Good seeing, Jeremy.
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Ah yes. Much better. Good seeing, Jeremy.
Yup.
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Nice B&W Jeremy.
Graeme
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Well, the consensus seems pretty clear - and I agree. The toning is from an article (http://technology.lenswork.com/2010/01/lenswork-duotones.html) describing what lenswork does, which I'd picked up recently. On reflection, I think it's a bit strong. I'll post a true ("honest") b&w when I get a moment.
Ed, thanks for the comment on the actual image :). It's one of Gaudi's creations in the Park Güell, Barcelona.
Jeremy
Jeremy,
The new toning is much better.
Looking again at the image itself, there is something about the composition that slightly bothers me. My eyes want to see more on the left. It is still a well seen image, almost-but-not-quite an abstract, but my eyes want the wall face at the end of the passage to be more centred.
Ed
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The new toning is much better.
Looking again at the image itself, there is something about the composition that slightly bothers me. My eyes want to see more on the left. It is still a well seen image, almost-but-not-quite an abstract, but my eyes want the wall face at the end of the passage to be more centred.
Yes, I think I agree about the toning. As to the framing, how about this one? It's f13 rather than f8, and 1/30th handheld, so it's less sharp. It also has a pigeon...
Jeremy