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Title: Canon ipf6400 CS6 Windows Profiling Help
Post by: ColourPhil on July 19, 2013, 05:27:25 am
Hi All. After many years of visiting this great site I thought i'd register and would like some advice for a problem.
I'm trying to create an RGB profile for someone as a favour. He's having problems printing my profiling charts without colour management. He's got a canon ipf6400 with the Prograf plug-in running CS6 on Windows.
Unfortunately he can't get the Adobe Color Printer Utility to work with the canon plug-in. So CS6 of course doesn't allow "No Colour Management". He's dropped one set of prints off today which are unusable.
He only has CS6 and no older versions. I have CS4 on a MacBook which I could use in an emergency.
Does the canon plug-in actually have a "No Colour Management" option or does it just use the standard CS options?
I believe that there is a patch (.xml?) for the Canon plug-in for Macs which lists other applications (ACPU), but not sure if available for Win?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers, Phil
Title: Re: Canon ipf6400 CS6 Windows Profiling Help
Post by: Ernst Dinkla on July 19, 2013, 07:04:40 am
Would it make that much difference if he used ACPU with the normal Canon drivers instead of the plug-in? There still is the rescaling issue of the target I guess but other threads had solutions for that flaw.
If that does not work you could try the trick to assign a printer profile (or color space) to the target file and use the same printer profile (or the same color space) for the paper you print on. There should not be a color management influence in that route (on Macs ColorSync would make it unreliable though as I understand it). The rendering intent should not matter either as no conversion should happen.
It is not that I think Adobe made a wise decision when it handicapped Photoshop on Windows for an Apple induced OS-X color management flaw but that is not going to change I guess. I'm using Qimage which has been reliable for ages in its CM including target printing.

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Title: Re: Canon ipf6400 CS6 Windows Profiling Help
Post by: ColourPhil on July 19, 2013, 08:41:16 am
Hi Ernst
Thanks for the advice.
Unfortunately CS6 doesn't allow the (CS5) null profile trick, and gives a warning message.
Apparently his install of ACPU goes straight to Roll paper and doesn't allow selection of media etc.
Not worried about size problem, 3% or so is OK with i1Pro.
Anyone know if the Prograf plug-in allows "No Colour Management" even if CS6 doesn't?
I may visit him tonight armed with MacBook, i1Pro etc. This profile is for a good cause, and is urgent.
Cheers, phil
Title: Re: Canon ipf6400 CS6 Windows Profiling Help
Post by: Justin B on July 19, 2013, 09:45:40 am
Anyone know if the Prograf plug-in allows "No Colour Management" even if CS6 doesn't?

I haven't used the IPF plug-in on CS6, but I've used it for CS5 and it gives you the ability to provide a "None (No Color Correction)" option for the Output Profile. Shouldn't have a problem printing the targets with the plug-in then.
Title: Re: Canon ipf6400 CS6 Windows Profiling Help
Post by: Scott Martin on July 19, 2013, 11:09:53 am
The Photoshop iPF plug-in has always been THE method for profiling the iPF printers. It's totally rock solid and you shouldn't consider any other procedure.
Title: Re: Canon ipf6400 CS6 Windows Profiling Help
Post by: ColourPhil on July 22, 2013, 11:37:28 am
Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated. The plug-in works very well for printing Targets. My customer hadn't installed the latest plug-in.
The ipf6400 is a great printer. I visited him as he's not far away, and time was of the essence, and I was doing it as a freebie. We printed charts on two medias, and I profiled one there (11.00 pm) and one at my office the next day.

There is a very sad story behind this which explains the reason for the hurry. My customer is a semi-pro photographer and had recently shot a friend's wedding, and was struggling with the prints. His friend's wife, who is only 27, sadly is terminally ill with only a very short time left. He wanted to get some lovely prints on canvas to her. She is delighted with the photos apparently.

So thanks again to all who helped.
Phil