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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: Shakyphoto (Slim) on June 25, 2013, 01:28:52 am

Title: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: Shakyphoto (Slim) on June 25, 2013, 01:28:52 am
This one...
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2810/9130884303_4a2c8582b9.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephen_tl/9130884303/)

OR this one...

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3697/9130874693_9fd25a843f.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephen_tl/9130874693/)
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: ErikKaffehr on June 25, 2013, 01:32:15 am
Hi,

Both have merits but I prefer the one without ND10.

Best regards
Erik

This one...
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2810/9130884303_267de2b8ba.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephen_tl/9130884303/)

OR this one...

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3697/9130874693_9fd25a843f.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephen_tl/9130874693/)


Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: francois on June 25, 2013, 03:18:14 am
Both are nice but I don't see anything better or more pleasing with the 10 stop ND so, in this case, I would keep the filter-less photo.
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: OnlyNorth on June 25, 2013, 03:45:11 am
I like "this one".
All the best.
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: stamper on June 25, 2013, 03:58:54 am
My preference is the second one. I shoot a lot of 10 stop so I am biased?
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on June 25, 2013, 04:21:47 am
The first. I agree with François: the blurring from the long exposure really adds little to the shot, and in some ways (the clouds in particular) detracts from it.

I might be tempted to combine the two: keep the sky from the first and use the water from the second. That's getting close to manipulation, though, which as we now know is unethical  ;).

Jeremy
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on June 25, 2013, 04:24:27 am
I prefer the first one, nicer sky for me. The filter does nothing to the water of interest.
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: Roman Racela on June 25, 2013, 09:21:17 pm
I like both images, but if the scene was shot at sunrise or sunset with better clouds then sans 10-stop ND would be kickass.
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: fike on June 26, 2013, 08:47:34 am
I think the question is not whether to ND or not to ND. Neither make the composition excellent. The shot is a nice memory, but it doesn't contain anything that goes beyond a pretty nice snapshot (the lighting is conspiring against you). So, I would tend to lean towards a style that is more straight--that is without the motion blur in the sky and water. 
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: DwayneOakes on June 26, 2013, 10:35:20 am
Can I have the second image with the first image sky in it ? lol Both are great but in this case the first one
for me. The second one would have been great as a tight crop of just the stream and the forest line
with the ND filter. You get some great reflections on the water doing that. Look at the second image there
is some great reflections from the mountain tops. When you are at scenes like this it is a good idea
to look for more images in the main image etc, explore the scene with your lens not your feet (walking around) sort of speak.
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: thierrylegros396 on June 26, 2013, 11:16:19 am
Prefer the second, especialy as the WB seems to be slightly different and too "hot" in the first one.

Thierry
Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: Larry Heath on June 26, 2013, 08:47:44 pm
I like the second hands down, and walking away! Nothing wrong with the first, I just get that old timey feel on the second.

Later Larry

Title: Re: 10 ND or not to 10 ND
Post by: Shakyphoto (Slim) on June 28, 2013, 12:07:20 pm
Mixed reviews apparently.  My wife says they are nothing special, but I like them.
I reprocessed the first picture to have higher exposures in certain areas of the picture.  You can see the original one I posted in the first reply... I think.

The lighting is coming from the side which adds some "harshness" to it, but I think that harshness gives the mountain character.

The photo was taken around 6:30 AM in Yosemite Valley.