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Title: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 09, 2013, 10:26:40 pm
It'll take a week or so to get here, but wanted to find out, is there anything I should be aware of for the setup?  Something that may not be in the instructions. I also need to make room for it.  I know what the physical dimensions are, but how much extra room do I need behind (to the wall) and to each side?  Do I need to access the back of the printer for loading roll paper or can it all be done from the front?
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Ray Cox on January 09, 2013, 11:36:57 pm
You are going to love that thing! I have had one now for 27 months. Was as easy to set up as a small desktop printer.
I have never done a software update, switch between paper and canvas, photo black and matte black regularly. It just works.

Cleanings are a rarity. The only time it has been necessary is during the switch of black inks. Switch the inks, do a nozzle test, and you will not get a good pattern. I then power down the unit, wait a couple of minutes, restart and retest. On only two occasions I actually had to do a pairs cleaning.

I am not too sure about all of this talk about the humidity being an issue. My studio is an old stone building built in 1874. The temp has been 62-65 in the print room and humidity is 34% ( it's winter and the heat is on believe it or not)  2 1/2 foot thick walls, no insulation. Usually run a small heater in there to get the nip off of my nose.

By the way, bill t. is right, that  30x80 is a good sweet spot. Have fun and Chill!    Play a little Bob Marley and relax
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: langier on January 10, 2013, 12:01:02 am
Make sure you have several strong backs to lift the printer onto the stand! It took four of us to take mine down the stairs down to my studio.

I seldom need to get behind my 9900 except to get to my UPS to reset in a rare while. As to width, leave a little room on the sides to change out the waste ink tanks.

Compared to my old 7600, it's at least 4 times faster and compared to the 9800, it's probably twice as fast.

Since I run a lot on canvas i do have to run regular cleaning cycles but fewer on luster. If you do need to run a cleaning cycle, if its just a color or two, simply clean the pairs. When you get to perhaps 30-40 percent left on the ink, it's time to get another cart since once you get to maybe 10-15%, you won't be able to run a cleaning cycle.

When you do switch to MK from PK, do a nozzle check and that will probably show you need to clean the black pair.

Don't worry about the cutter, even with canvas since its made to cut through heavy material.

I've had my second hand printer now for two years and couldn't be happier for its print quality and speed!
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: bill t. on January 10, 2013, 02:04:32 am
Awright Mike!  Yer runnin' with the big dogs now!

Just wait'll you heft that first big roll of honkin' 44" media.  It's a thrill you'll never forget. 

Let's see now...figure out where you're gonna put all those damned rolls, they take up some serious room, and they really like to fall over if you stack them against the wall on-end.  And your work table is probably too small.  And figure out how you're gonna hang up all those big prints to dry, I usually tape them up on the 5, 51 x 97 pieces of 6mm Coroplast I use for coating, even if I'm not going to coat that particular media.  I have a whole wall reserved for nothing but leaning up those panels.  And be sure to get some velcro straps for tying up partially used rolls.  I buy 20 foot rolls of 1" velcro straps at the electronic supply store, then cut them up.  Red works especially well, but will be out of gamut in pictures of your shop.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Wayne Fox on January 10, 2013, 02:09:52 am
You'll prob need a LK ink long before any of the others because of the way the printer charges (it has to charge the LK ink line twice because it shares a channel with the PK/MK nozzles) so prob want to get one of those pretty quickly.  It's rare you need to get behind the printer other than plugging in the cables, and it's on wheels so easy to put up against the wall and roll out when necessary.  You really don't need any room on the sides either.

It's heavy and it's designed to be lifted by 4 people at once (there are handles indicating safe places to lift).

I had a 7900 and an 11880, sold them and switched to a 9900.  The humidity thing isn't fiction, and while some luck out with little trouble, a few seem cursed with clogs no matter what, if there is any way to keep the humidity at around 45% your paper and the printer will benefit.  I have a self filling humidifier attached to a R/O water filter that is on a valve, turns on for 5 min each day to refill it. (did this because I've had two floods where the small 1/4" tubing to supply a fridge busted.  This way if it busts I only get 5 minutes of water intead of hours. Has pretty much eliminated my clogs, although it wasn't terrible before that.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 10, 2013, 06:46:07 am
Geesh Bill... sounds like I need to get a larger studio! lol  I know the printer will fit, but everything else is going to take up more room!  I had already thought of a larger work table... working on that one.

Is it better to hang the prints or lay them flat to dry?

Good point about the LK Wayne. I'll order one right away.  Fortunately, I have a great computer store right across the street from my studio that can get me my ink (and paper for the most part) next day (and they pay for the shipping!). I'm in an old building, but it was completely renovated two years ago so the temp and humidity are pretty consistent.  I've not had any problems with my 4900, even after sitting idle for two weeks over the Christmas holidays.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: framah on January 10, 2013, 11:09:50 am
Based on the "other thread", you might want to plan on having a wiper on hand and change it every 6 months or so to lower the chance of head clogs. It's like changing your oil and filter in your car...preventive maintenance  and probably should be done on a regular basis.

They found that one of the possible causes of head clogs is the wiper smearing old ink back onto the head.

When my 9900 had a stroke with a completely clogged green channel, I wish I had known about this. It might have saved my machine. It really IS a great printer except for that little head clogging thing.
I now have an 11880 and so far it is doing nicely. Actually printed a piece 64x66 inches just before Xmas. My first massive print job that justified buying the larger printer.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: John Caldwell on January 10, 2013, 07:01:39 pm
When you get to perhaps 30-40 percent left on the ink, it's time to get another cart since once you get to maybe 10-15%, you won't be able to run a cleaning cycle.

Langler, Are you suggesting that the ink volume consumed by a cleaning cycle is 10-15% of the cart volume, which would be a least 15 to 20cc, based upon using the smallest 150cc ink cartridges?

Congratulations, Mike! I too am hoping to compliment my 4900 with a 9900. We would be twins.

John
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 10, 2013, 09:41:52 pm
Based on the "other thread", you might want to plan on having a wiper on hand and change it every 6 months or so to lower the chance of head clogs. It's like changing your oil and filter in your car...preventive maintenance  and probably should be done on a regular basis.

What's a 'wiper'?

Thanks Sharon & John.. I am excited and can't wait to get started.  Just hope by the time I have it set up that I can afford some extra ink and a roll of 44" media!  I have a couple of 24" rolls (Lustre and CPN) but still deciding which canvas I want to use.  That'll probably be the 44" roll.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: dgberg on January 11, 2013, 08:40:39 am
You bought a 9900 and you did not read our longest thread. :(
Watch the video about changing the wiper,its buried in the middle somewhere.


PS. Ken Doo
Thanks for digging out the link for Eric's video.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: framah on January 11, 2013, 10:53:47 am
The wiper  is a tiny rubbery "wiper" thingy that the machine runs over the heads to wipe off any excess ink. As time goes on, it slowly gets gunked up with ink that didn't run off into the drain to the maint. tanks.

Eventually, the theory has it, it will begin to wipe old, peanut buttery ink ONTO the heads causing more clogs than it helps avoid.

I have 2 left on hand that i bought after my 9900 had a green stroke. I was planning to rebuild it myself, but came to my senses when someone offered me $500 for it as is. I gave him one of the wipers and now have the 2 left.

I'd like to know if it is the same wiper for my 11880. Anyone??
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Ken Doo on January 11, 2013, 11:16:11 am
Actually, I'd suggest doing an occasional inspection and cleaning of the wiper (e.g, every few weeks/months) with a moistened, lint free swab-it.  Sometimes you never know when that gunk is gonna build up because of a media dust, a special print job etc.  It's certainly easy enough---and costs nothing but a few minutes of time.  I would replace the wiper as recommended annually; earlier replacement won't break the bank either.

If I can find the time, I'll try to put together a short list of printer tips and basic maintenance on the Epson printers, gleaned from both my personal experience and the adventures of Eric the Magnificient as he delves deep in the depths of the working Epson printer body...   summarized in one document.

In the meantime, this is the link to Eric's video on wiper replacement:  http://gotagteam.com/epson/Epson_7900-Wiperblade_change.html

I believe you can still make donations to help further his endeavors at the site.

ken
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Justan on January 11, 2013, 12:00:29 pm
Congratulations, Mike! I look forward to seeing your comments on the new printer.

The comments here have been very educational. Would someone please elaborate or provide a link to earlier comments about the influence of humidity for this printer? I’m in an area where high humidity is the norm. F’instance, at the moment the humidity level outside is 93% and it seldom gets below about 50%.

TIA

Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: SK Photo on January 11, 2013, 12:20:55 pm
Congratulations! - You are going to love it!

I'm brand new to the forums, and had I known you were in the market for one, I would have turned you on to the one I have for sale. It comes with a freshly installed set of genuine Epson 700ml inks.

As far the the 9900 you have coming, it is a dream to print with. Loads paper like a breeze, you can create custom paper setups quite easily, and it prints very fast compared to past models (9800, 9600...) - The color gamut is nothing short of amazing! I'd suggest creating custom paper profiles for every paper you use.

The canned profiles for most papers, supplied by most paper manufacturers are pretty decent, but my experience has been that nothing beats a custom profile. Prints from the 9900 on custom profiled paper are nothing short of stunning! - The 9900 prints the best black and whites of any Epson inkjet printer I have owned, and I have owned most of them. The black and whites are "almost" indistinguishable from a conventional black and white, and in most cases I prefer the feel of the 9900 B&W to conventional B&W's. The 9900 seems to reproduce nuances that conventional prints simply do not.

Again, congratulations on your purchase... You made a great choice in a printer.

If or or anyone else reading this is interested, I'm going to be posting a great deal on a bunch of Moab Entrada paper for sale in the "For Sale" section very shortly...

Enjoy!

SK
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Ken Doo on January 11, 2013, 02:27:49 pm
Congratulations, Mike! I look forward to seeing your comments on the new printer.

The comments here have been very educational. Would someone please elaborate or provide a link to earlier comments about the influence of humidity for this printer? I’m in an area where high humidity is the norm. F’instance, at the moment the humidity level outside is 93% and it seldom gets below about 50%.

TIA



Hi Justan,

The target comfort zone for your Epson printer is 40-60% +/- for humidity.  My studio is along the CA central coast, so normal humidity stays relatively good.  It's rare that I would ever need to run a humidifier!  It is worthwhile to purchase a hygrometer to monitor humidity levels near your printer.  The use of the house furnace, heaters, and air conditioning can drastically effect humidity---and your printer's comfort zone.  Imho, keeping humidity levels within that targeted comfort zone is extremely important in keeping a happy Epson printer.  (Knock on wood) I've had none of the complaints nor any clogging with my 9900 or 9890 while monitoring humidity, and doing the normal preventative maintenance.

ken
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Justan on January 12, 2013, 10:13:59 am
^Thank you for the comments. I have a hygrometer in the basement, about 20’ from a dehumidifier. The circumstances of that area requires that the dehumidifier runs about 6 or so hours a day. I’ll have to move the hygrometer to other locations and see what the typical humidity is.

I’m considering the 9900 as a candidate for a 44” printer, but high to extremely high humidity is fairly typical around here.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: mlondon on January 12, 2013, 11:31:06 pm
I'm in the market for a 44" printer but still chugging along with my old 3800 for now. I know that the time to buy technology is when you need it, but I can hold off for awhile and continue using a friends printer when I need wider than 17".

I've been keeping my eye out for news of inevitable new printers from Epson, but not even a rumor. From those of who who may be more plugged into the product cycle of the wide format printers, when do you think there will be an new version up from the 9900?

To be clear, I don't see anything wrong with the current model, just prefer making investments like this towards the beginning of a product cycle rather than towards the end.

Thank you !
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: darlingm on January 13, 2013, 02:00:46 am
Turn off auto cleaning, do nozzle checks yourself.  Use the cheapest 8.5x11 paper you can find for these.  (Note that you can re-use a sheet by loading it as a single sheet, changing it to think it's a roll by hitting the left arrow, and advancing the paper down somewhat by hitting the down arrow.  You can fit 5 nozzle checks per side, 10 total, this way.  Down arrow on single sheet mode advances the paper all the way for it to be unloaded.)

Pay or con others to be those people lifting the printer.  I had no part in lifting mine.  :)  I learned from my HP 5500PS 60".

When it says a cartridge is down to 1%, there's really a LOT more in there.  But as langier mentioned, when the percentage gets low it asks for a new one when cleaning.  You have to decide if you throw out a lot of ink or play the swap cartridges game.

Update firmware.  Yours might have it already, but there was a bug where some ink cartridges were improperly rejected.

Others will disagree, but I recommend not using the cutter for canvas.  It cuts just fine, but at least for me it created a ton of debris in the printer that would fall on the canvas, preventing ink from hitting it in a few spots.  Otherwise, vacuum the inside out often.

They aren't that expensive, but you can find maintenance tank refill sponges a lot cheaper.  It's just a sponge - I don't mind using third party here.

Most (all, in my experience actually) ink goes into the right maintenance tank.  If one completely fills, it won't print anymore.  When your right tank gets to 10%, switch them.  I, then, have left that initial one at 10% on the left, and it never fills up more.  I believe (but don't know) that the only time the left one is used is when borderless printing is used, which I don't do.

Some day the head carriage will bounce from side to side, possibly for quite a while - up to 15-30min?  It's auto adjusting something, and it isn't kind enough to tell you that.  It's not broken.  It just doesn't want you to meet your deadline.

Don't know if it could hurt something forcing it, but I sometimes have to force the roll to rewind by grabbing the roll end caps and twisting them.  Sometimes my media loads with a foot or so advanced, and it thinks it's all the way up, so the rewind button (up arrow) won't go farther.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: darlingm on January 13, 2013, 02:02:58 am
. . .I've been keeping my eye out for news of inevitable new printers from Epson, but not even a rumor. From those of who who may be more plugged into the product cycle of the wide format printers, when do you think there will be an new version up from the 9900?. . .

No idea, but Epson employees have said that without some huge new breakthrough, there's not going to be large advancements in things like gamut, so I wouldn't worry about it much.  Except, SOMEDAY they're going to have to release a 60" with orange and green, right?
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 13, 2013, 06:56:35 pm
Great tips... Thanks!
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 16, 2013, 10:17:05 pm
Well.. bad news... the 9900 is on backorder with no ETA.  :(
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: bill t. on January 17, 2013, 12:17:51 am
iPF 8400.  Just sayin.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Czornyj on January 17, 2013, 03:43:47 am
iPF 8400.  Just sayin.
+1
Virtually the same quality but no clogging, way better scratch resistance, lower ink consumption, faster print speed, nice software (PS Plug-in + Gallery Wrap, Free Layout, Accounting Manager, Media Configuration Tool)... And in case of fatal head stroke you just change the user replaceable head, not the printer ;)
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Sal Baker on January 17, 2013, 07:05:46 am
A colleague at work just bought a 8400.  A long-time Epson user who had to retire his dead-head printer sooner than he had planned.  He loves it and has become a bit of a boring evangelist. 

I finally saw a print from a x400 and I'm sold.  The 8400 is too rich for my wallet, but an ipf6400 is in my future before the big rebates end.  I'll be keeping my 3880 as its been bullet-proof!

Sal
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 17, 2013, 07:46:41 am
Hmmm... and extra ~ $2K or so is just out of my range.  I'm quite happy with my 4900 so think I'll just wait it out.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Sal Baker on January 17, 2013, 11:54:16 am
I don't know if B&H ships to where you are, but with the current Canon/Epson rebates the ipf8400 is $400 cheaper than the 9900.

Sal
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 17, 2013, 12:38:11 pm
Well that does sound better, but unfortunately the shipping costs would eat that up in no time, let alone any customs/brokerage fees.  The exchange rate isn't too bad, but on that amount it's something to consider too, and there's the warranty. I want to make sure its serviceable under warranty in Canada.  The rebates locally are not that deep for the Canon either.  It's disappointing, but I'll wait.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: acktdi on January 18, 2013, 06:05:39 pm
The deal isn't as good, I got mine for $3000 after rebate, but it's still a heck cheaper than the 9900.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Canon-iPF8400-Wide-Format-Printer-800-Rebate-Final-Cost-3795-Photo-Graphic-/181055335794?pt=COMP_Printers&hash=item2a27bd2d72

Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 18, 2013, 08:26:20 pm
Well, the best deal I can find on the 8400 is still $800 more than the 9900 in Canada. I'll stick to the 9900.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: davidh202 on January 18, 2013, 08:46:23 pm
I suggested the 9890 to you way back...
The very small gamut difference isn't really worth the extra $$ for photographic purposes once your working with custom profiles. ;-)
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Czornyj on January 19, 2013, 06:47:25 am
Well, the best deal I can find on the 8400 is still $800 more than the 9900 in Canada. I'll stick to the 9900.


Take note that Epson SPx900 comes with 11x110ml of ink (worht US 500$), while iPF8400 comes with 12x330ml of ink (worth US 1663$).

Also consider the fact that 330ml of Canon LUCIA EX ink corresponds to ~470ml of Epson K3 HDR ink, as Canon consumes ~30% less ink than Epson (same prints, same quality), and it also wastes much less ink for maintenance.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 30, 2013, 05:34:43 pm
Well.. it ALMOST arrived today.  I saw it sitting on the truck but couldn't get it off just yet.  Fedex told me it would arrive between 9am and 1pm.  A non-Fedex truck arrived at 3:00pm and by then any help I could muster had already left the area. :(  The crate is too big to get through the front door (immediate left hand turn in a small vestibule just inside my front door) so my only option is to bring it through my neighbour/landlords's loading dock which is in the same building, but waaaay out back, unpack it there and bring it in piece by piece to the studio for assembly.  argh!
At least I've got a couple of guys lined up then and the driver 'promised' to be here between 10:30 and noon tomorrow.   
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: bill t. on January 30, 2013, 07:32:30 pm
Cool!  So close!  My method has been to specify a truck with a power lift gate, put it down on the driveway, assemble the printer outside, then roll it in on its own base.  I'm sure you've thought this out, but a couple 4 wheel floor dollies could be useful and can be rented at U-Haul agencies, etc.  Anyway, I hope it doesn't get too memorable.  A printer like that is a big step in a young-man's life and we're all expecting great things from you.   :)
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: nairb on January 30, 2013, 07:56:55 pm
Did you by chance order it through vistek and have it drop shipped direct to you?
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: hugowolf on January 30, 2013, 09:48:51 pm
so my only option is to bring it through my neighbour/landlords's loading dock which is in the same building, but waaaay out back, unpack it there and bring it in piece by piece to the studio for assembly.  argh!
The stand is in pieces, and you need to put that together first. But the printer is in one piece.

Brian A
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 30, 2013, 10:15:00 pm
Afraid it's going to be -12 Celsius tomorrow Bill, so I won't be assembling it outside.  The truck has a power lift gate, but it's also the right height for the loading dock so shouldn't be a problem and the shop area is huge so lots of room to assemble it and then possibly wheel it right into the studio.

And yes nairb, I did order it through Vistek and having it drop shipped.  I actually got the call from Fedex stating the window of delivery (9am to 1pm), but the driver of the actual truck (not Fedex) said they had no delivery times given to them.  Anyway, he's actually driving from Owen Sound (I think the printer came via London so ended up in western Ontario) and is supposed to call me when he leaves so that I have a better idea of when he'll arrive. 
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: davidh202 on January 30, 2013, 10:24:07 pm
  Mike,
you preferrably need 4 people to lift it onto the stand and  another to guide it into position, and be carefull of where the handholds are for safely lifting it. Diagram included in the unpacking and setup papers.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 30, 2013, 11:05:23 pm
I'll have at least two others in addition to myself and one of them has put together a couple of these printers so is well versed in their assembly. I'm sure I can grab a 4th if needed.  I've watched the assembly video a few times so I'm sure everything will go smoothly - as soon as I can actually get it that is.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: KenBabcock on January 30, 2013, 11:35:44 pm
And we hope next month you're not posting about a clogged and dead head.

*cough* 8400... *ahem*  ;)
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: nairb on January 31, 2013, 12:02:54 am
Thanks Mike, that's what I had looked into as well.

Did you happen to get an extended warranty with it, and by chance did you inquire as to what would happen if it needs a warranty repair? ie, will a service tech come to you from Toronto? It's been a while since I checked, but I believe I'm too far from a major centre for this kind of service. Or I could be charged a lot for 6 hours of travel.

Brian
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 31, 2013, 07:21:59 am
ouuuu... low blow Ken! ;)  I've been monitoring my humidity for the past couple of weeks and it's been steady at about 38 to 42% - 38% at the lowest even during the cold snap of -32 celsius.  I'm hoping that consistency will help matters with clogging.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: John Caldwell on January 31, 2013, 07:52:11 am
Following with interest, Mike. Ironically my 9900 was also to have been delivered yesterday, but I had to cancel because the team of movers that I've hired to carry to printer from the lift gate point to the studio space couldn't come. But you and I are neck & neck!

Do you happen to recall a link to the assembly video? Possibly it's one of the Lexjet Youtube videos.  I should watch that/those before we reattempt the delivery and installation next week.

Thanks and good luck with your printer, Mike.

John-
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 31, 2013, 09:34:54 am
There's a few of them around... but I believe this is the one I watched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZJhFc4tpwo

put out by DTG in Tampa.

My 9900 is supposed to be here between 10:30 and noon today, but the weather and streamers coming in off the lake are horrible.  Crossing my fingers!
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: KenBabcock on January 31, 2013, 10:55:56 am
ouuuu... low blow Ken! ;)  I've been monitoring my humidity for the past couple of weeks and it's been steady at about 38 to 42% - 38% at the lowest even during the cold snap of -32 celsius.  I'm hoping that consistency will help matters with clogging.

I just had to, Mike! ;)

I've never had any serious clogging on any of my printers, ever, and we do live fairly close to each other so the temps and climate are identical.

Have fun with it.  We know what you're doing today.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 31, 2013, 01:36:16 pm
GOT IT!

First of all, many thanks to Luca and Paul for coming out to help me.  Luca's put a few of these together before so we had it on the stand in no time.  It took longer to unpack it than the initial set up.  I've still got to connect it, build the print basket and set up, but at least it's here! 

Any luck with yours John?
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: bill t. on January 31, 2013, 04:49:25 pm
Applause!  The crooked frame on the wall speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: framah on January 31, 2013, 05:12:04 pm
Heavy little bugger, ain't it!!

You should have seen us when we assembled my 11880!!  Hernias were popping, eyes were bulging, backs were being thrown, hearts were stopping!!

 I distinctly remember alot of wishing going on about being younger.


Congrats!!
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 31, 2013, 11:41:24 pm
I hear ya framah!  And the crooked frame is a mirror for clients to check their hair and such before a portrait session.  Got tired of trying to keep it straight so just permanently tilted it.  Like I teach my photography students, if you're going to make your horizons crooked, tilt it like you mean it!
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on January 31, 2013, 11:45:17 pm
Nairb... just noticed your post that I missed earlier.  I did not get the extended warranty, yet.  I've never purchased extended warranties in the past for anything.  I know a repair may cost a lot, but from all the money I've saved over the years by not purchasing one on everything there is, I figure I'm way ahead in the long run.  So, I'm still deciding, but I doubt it.

I'm about 1.5 hours from Toronto so not too bad... but I'll cross that bridge if I ever need to.  Basically, I'm not worried.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Ken Doo on January 31, 2013, 11:53:42 pm
You've got a year to decide if you want to extend your warranty....

ken
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: bill t. on February 01, 2013, 12:55:46 am
If I had bought an extended warranty for every 24" inch or larger printer I have owned, it would have cost me well over the list price of two, 44" printers.  Have yet to need a warranty service visit, although I'm pretty sure I was just weeks away from one with my old 9880.  Plan B is to skip the warranty, and use the saved samolies to buy a new printer every 2 or 3 years during one of those inevitable December sales.  Knock on wood.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Benny Profane on February 01, 2013, 08:51:32 am
Just to chime in here about extended warranties and reliability. I work in an in-house creative shop with three 9900s, and only once has one needed a doctor's visit (over five years). Before that I worked in a pre press shop for three years with four 9880s humming along, and never did one go down. Very reliable machines. But, all of them saw a LOT of volume. Can not speak for a machine that just sits there a lot.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Ernst Dinkla on February 01, 2013, 10:44:52 am
The first 9900s were available in the winter 2008-2009 after the introduction at the Photokina 2008.


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Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Justan on February 01, 2013, 11:45:09 am
Congratulations on getting it in the studio with body and machine parts relatively intact.

What is going to be the first full size print you run through it?

Are you gonna give it (the printer, that is; not the first print) a name?
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: bill t. on February 01, 2013, 12:22:14 pm
Are you gonna give it (the printer, that is; not the first print) a name?

Yes absolutely, anything with as much personality as a printer needs a name!

As I began to understand her, I came to think of my old 9880 as Mistress Betty.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hT6nVkRLaYg/SgmBILuGx_I/AAAAAAAABPI/gK9XEZy03EQ/s400/bettie+page+144.jpg)
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on February 01, 2013, 01:54:18 pm
ahhh.. got the printer.. but now I can't afford the paper! :o

I'm going to do some test prints first - on a few images that I have already printed on my 4900 on 17" rolls.  I purchased a couple of 24" rolls with the printer (which gave me free shipping and cost about the same amount anyway), a CPN and Premium Lustre - so those will be my next 'large' prints. 

I'd really like to see the Exhibition Canvas Matte Natural that just came out recently before deciding on a 44" roll of anything.

One note... after charging the ink, I still have more than 50%, probably closer to 60% of the starter inks available, except for the LK which is at about 30%.

As far as a name.... not sure yet, but I'm confident that something appropriate will come up.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: bill t. on February 01, 2013, 02:35:09 pm
Try a roll of Epson Exhibition Canvas Gloss, the older unnatural version which is acid-free unlike the new Natural stuff.  Prints like a good baryta paper and has the gamut to match.  If you can tolerate a little surface acidity, Black Diamond Canvas from IJ Technologies will one-up any other media of any type in every way except surface smoothness.
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: davidh202 on February 01, 2013, 10:36:53 pm
just a little note.
I used the plastic that the printer was wrapped in to use as a cover (taped the two pieces together) Keep the printer covered nightly! And don't forget to save the little door stop packing thingy from under the print head, in case you ever need to move the printer to a different location.
Enjoy it!

David 
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on February 01, 2013, 10:40:14 pm
opps.. already trashed the plastic but I did keep the print-head 'stop'.  Fortunately, I don't get much dust where I am but a cover of some sort may be a good idea.  Do others use a cover of some sort?
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: davidh202 on February 01, 2013, 11:29:47 pm
The cover not only protects from dust but also from drafts and serves to keep moisture within the confines of the machine, helping to keep the ink in the capping station from drying too fast .
Dont bother with a fancy cover just get some   painter plastic drop cloth material big enough to cover the machine floor to floor from the front and back and drape the sides. I think about 8 x 12 feet ;-)
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on February 02, 2013, 07:46:24 am
If the printer were in my basement, something like that would be fine.  But the printer sits in my studio and easily seen from the gallery area 'out front'. From a retail perspective, I'd need something that is not only functional, but that looks 'neat and tidy' as well. Image is everything eh!
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: framah on February 02, 2013, 09:33:33 am
Maybe someones Grandma can crochet you a nice printer cozy. ;D



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Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Ken Doo on February 02, 2013, 11:08:34 am
Maybe someones Grandma can crochet you a nice printer cozy. ;D


Now that's printer love!   :D

I just use a simple large black cloth, similar to lycra.  Very nondescript and clients don't even notice there is a "beast" in the room.  If you have your printer in a more common client area, you might want to "invest" in a custom printer cover ---or a cozy.   ;D

ken
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: bill t. on February 02, 2013, 12:28:01 pm
You'll know the honeymoon is over when you stop covering the printer.  Then you can get down to some serious work.

All you really need is a scrap of media long enough to cover the traditional Epson air-gap / dust-admittance-port just under the roll hood.    As an exercise in eschewing worldly values, you can attach a strip of media or corrugated cardboard to the hood with masking tape and just flip it down between sessions.  The sooner your printer feels like an old shoe, the better.  IMHO.

framah your Granny Cover (tm) looks tempting, but is it genuine Angora?
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Justan on February 02, 2013, 12:33:08 pm
^So….Mistress Betty gets a scrap of media taped over her air gap.

Love it.  ;D
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: framah on February 02, 2013, 03:12:21 pm

framah your Granny Cover (tm) looks tempting, but is it genuine Angora?

Unfortunately, Grammy is allergic to angora so she has to use that synthetic stuff!

But the Barbie doll IS a nice touch, don'cha think?
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: BarbaraArmstrong on February 02, 2013, 04:03:54 pm
That can't be a Barbie-doll.  Barbie (at least as I remember her) is ultra-thin, including her face.  And this from a --Barbara    BTW, Bill, I love your suggestion of the media flap.  I have just acquired the Canon 8300, at those nice recent sale prices, and have been having trouble, from the get-go, with the printer stopping about 3/16 inch short of cutting or ejecting my print.  And the tech people, who have just sent a replacement part and will visit next week, think it is due to dust settling on the thin ribbon-like thing stretching behind the path the print-head takes across the print -- the one that is above and behind and is transparent along the top half of the strip.  Anyway, I had had no idea that an invisible amount of dust could have that much effect, and am trying to figure out how to deal with it.  And it is that air-gap along the front below the edge of the hood that is the source, they say.  Also, I am getting a noise that I am sure is abnormal, and that may be what the replacement part is for.  Meanwhile, I do love the prints.  I have wanted to print larger for some time, without knowing exactly why.  When I saw my new prints, I knew the answer.  It is because we see the world that way, spread out in front of us.  I am loving it.  --Barbara, again
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: BarbaraArmstrong on February 02, 2013, 04:11:35 pm
Justan, I'll admit, your comment was great! Got me laughing right here in front of my computer screen.  --Barbara
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: Mike Guilbault on February 02, 2013, 05:12:17 pm
You'll know the honeymoon is over when you stop covering the printer.  Then you can get down to some serious work.

framah your Granny Cover (tm) looks tempting, but is it genuine Angora?

I like the way you think Bill. I hate covers...  Never know where to put them when you take them off.. Especially something that big. That's why mr BBQ cover stays off all summer - always ready to be fired up!
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: davidh202 on February 02, 2013, 06:32:53 pm
My 9890 sits right in the front window on the sales floor in the gallery. You can see it just fine through the clear plastic cover and it attracts alot of attention. Protection is everything ;-) 
Title: Re: Ordered my 9900!
Post by: BarbaraArmstrong on February 02, 2013, 06:50:19 pm
Of course it attracts a lot of attention!  I tell my friends that it is the size of a coffin, because it is more than six feet long, and they don't believe it until they see it. --Barbara