Luminous Landscape Forum
Equipment & Techniques => Cameras, Lenses and Shooting gear => Topic started by: ErikKaffehr on December 30, 2012, 09:59:22 pm
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Hi,
If you are interested in taking part click on the link below and please and make sure you see the image in full size.
http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/oranges.html
Here are some more crops from the same images:
http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/flower.html
http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/bokeh.html
http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/dollar.html
The "bokeh crop" surprises me, right image showing more DoF. May have to do with wavy curvature of field?
Please tell us which you prefer
Best regards
Erik
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is the 3rd one(far right). I prefer the sharpness and less noise. I almost would take the color from the middle shot, however.
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Thank you!
Erik
is the 3rd one(far right). I prefer the sharpness and less noise. I almost would take the color from the middle shot, however.
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The left one: better bokeh and sharpness.
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I prefer the orange in the left image, and overall still marginally the left image, but I don't care for the background much in either the left or centre.
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Left for isolation with good background blur.
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The image on the left.
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Left. The distance to the background is wrong for the other 2 lenses.
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Hi,
Thanks for comment. Don't really understand your statement on distance to the background. Nothing moved except that tripod mount was used on two of the lenses. Distance to subject was 3.8 m from camera, so I think difference matters little.
It's interesting to see that almost all posters prefer the left image.
Best regards
Erik
Left. The distance to the background is wrong for the other 2 lenses.
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Hi,
Thanks for comment. Don't really understand your statement on distance to the background. Nothing moved except that tripod mount was used on two of the lenses. Distance to subject was 3.8 m from camera, so I think difference matters little.
It's interesting to see that almost all posters prefer the left image.
Best regards
Erik
yeah, my mistake. I am thinking of the registration distance on the back being longer so narrower angle of light to the sensor. Making the shot look the same would require a movement of the tripod. That is wrong.
So you are using 150mm fl approx for all shots. So the bokeh difference on the lettering is a parameter of the lens design not the distance. Its surprising to me as sony lenses are usually pretty good on that. Still, the hassy lens looks quite a bit better.
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I am much surprised that the image on the right, Sony 70-400/4-5.6 has seemingly wider DoF than the others. It's much more visible in the "bookeh crops", here: http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/bokeh.html
Exposure was essentially the same on all.
Best regards
Erik
yeah, my mistake. I am thinking of the registration distance on the back being longer so narrower angle of light to the sensor. Making the shot look the same would require a movement of the tripod. That is wrong.
So you are using 150mm fl approx for all shots. So the bokeh difference on the lettering is a parameter of the lens design not the distance. Its surprising to me as sony lenses are usually pretty good on that. Still, the hassy lens looks quite a bit better.
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The right one (Sony) has wider DOF, so as a landscaper, I would prefer it for that reason. -
It will be interesting to see a test in the corners of a full frame camera.
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Clearly a Leica lens would be best - you'd be able to taste the orange
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I am much surprised that the image on the right, Sony 70-400/4-5.6 has seemingly wider DoF than the others. It's much more visible in the "bookeh crops", here: http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/bokeh.html
Exposure was essentially the same on all.
Best regards
Erik
On that set I see the 70-400 looking about a couple stops higher f number. It looks like an f 5.6 to f 8 difference.
The hassy is showing chromatic aberration, not bad but definitely a distraction on specular highlights. The other 2 lenses seem properly controlled. The 200 2.8 still seems to want to form a double hard edge in the bokeh. Does that lens have a microadjuster? My 300 f4G has a ring that turns to slightly adjust the relationship between the elements.
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Hi,
Yes it even adds a bit of gin.
Best regards
Erik
Clearly a Leica lens would be best - you'd be able to taste the orange
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Gee, I am just hanging around with nothing interesting or useful to do, so I'll surely take your quiz. NOT. Please, give us a break.
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SONY
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Gee, I am just hanging around with nothing interesting or useful to do, so I'll surely take your quiz. NOT. Please, give us a break.
Grinch stole your New Year too? ;)
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Voted left but right reminded me of the first 5d and how the noise like nice film grain wasn't obtrusive.
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Left one for me too
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another left one here,,
Derry