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Site & Board Matters => About This Site => Topic started by: thebatman on October 03, 2012, 09:29:01 am
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Just a quick note to say congratulations to Jeff on the launch of The Digital Negative Book! As of this morning on Amazon it looks like it is #1 in multiple categories: Digital Photography, Adobe Photoshop, and Digital Image Processing, with a 1-3 week backorder time.
Thankfully I got my order in before the original stock ran out :) Looking forward to a great read.
-Ken
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I'm on the back order list and looking forward to reading it. I've found Jeff's books to be a good blend of enjoyable reading and great information.
In the FAQ on the book's website Jeff mentions a studio still life project he wants to work on. I'd love to see a book about that whole process, and I hope Jeff is thinking about that.
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Just arrived from Amazon (Canada) and initial look is very positive.
Looks great.
Dave S
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I got my hands on the Kindle version on Monday and read it cover to cover on a flight back to Australia from London. An excellent read, I'm no slouch on the digital imaging front myself and always enjoy reading a book with some new insights. I enjoyed some of the info about now LR came into being and the glimpses into the working of Adobe were very interesting.
Jeff has achieved what he set out to do and that's to not write another LR book but summarise and illuminate the entire workflow.
Highly recommended.
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Jeff knows what he is writing about and he knows how to write, also, I'm pretty sure he ad a couple of good advisors.
Best regards
Erik
Jeff has achieved what he set out to do and that's to not write another LR book but summarise and illuminate the entire workflow.
Highly recommended.
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Nick and all...thanks for the kind words. It was a lot of work!
Erik, for this book, I really didn't have any advisers. My normal go to guy Erich Chan was slammed with work. He helped answer a few technical questions and got me the DNG Flat Field plug-in so I could include it in the book. But this time around (as compared to taking over Bruce's books or working with Martin Evening on our book), the book is entirely my fault :~)
I actually had a couple of people say I shouldn't put in the history of ACR & LR because they thought nobody would care. But I did it to put a more human face on the engineers and give the background on why they were developed. It's cool here at LuLa because Eric hangs out here (and agreed to do the videos with Mike and me) but most customers of Adobe just see Adobe as this big company and don't realize this stuff comes from a relatively few talented and hard working engineers.
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Jeff: I'm jumping on the kudos bandwagon. I purchased the Kindle version a few days ago and find the book an education and very helpful in understanding the technology. No, my head didn't turn to mush in the first chapters. Looking forward to the Digital Print. I truly enjoy how the "magic" of technology is being explained and becomeing more transparent more and more. The more we understand what's behind the curtin, the more creative we can become with the tools.
Thanks!
Mark
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When I ordered my copy a couple of days ago, not only was the book #1 in the categories mentioned above, but it had actually broken into the top 100 overall in all books (number 96, I believe). Not too bad, I'd say. I have the LR4 videos, And I'm looking forward to reading the book as well. Congratulations, Jeff.
-larry
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I just got an email from Amazon saying I'll be getting the book in two weeks now rather than the three weeks they originally quoted.
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I am a little past half finished with my kindle edition. I have enjoyed reading it very much so far. The book's companion website adds a lot to the book. I have enjoyed looking at the downloadable dng files in Lightroom 4 and being able to "look over Jeff's shoulder" by studying what he adjusted in each panel and what change the adjustment made to the image. Being able to do this actually adds a very personal touch to the book. Well done!!!!
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Hi Jeff,
Even more impressed!
What I got to add that that I admire the clarity of your writing! I also enjoy your explanation of ETTR.
Best regards
Erik
Erik, for this book, I really didn't have any advisers. My normal go to guy Erich Chan was slammed with work. He helped answer a few technical questions and got me the DNG Flat Field plug-in so I could include it in the book. But this time around (as compared to taking over Bruce's books or working with Martin Evening on our book), the book is entirely my fault :~
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What I got to add that that I admire the clarity of your writing! I also enjoy your explanation of ETTR.
Many thanks...I'm gratified you think that! I work pretty hard to keep thing concise but throw in some spice as well :-)
Unfortunately some wing nut named Johnny B Goode seems to think I'm a very bad writer & said so in an Amazon review...course he called Mr. Shewe so I'm not too sure about his reading comprehension...I mean, my name is spelled correctly on the cover of the book :-)
Might be useful if some other folks who DO like the writing post some additional reviews. I would hate for Johnny B to have the last word...
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Unfortunately some wing nut named Johnny B Goode seems to think I'm a very bad writer & said so in an Amazon review...course he called Mr. Shewe so I'm not too sure about his reading comprehension...I mean, my name is spelled correctly on the cover of the book :-)
Might be useful if some other folks who DO like the writing post some additional reviews. I would hate for Johnny B to have the last word...
Whether I agree with that Mr. Goode or not about your writing style, I don't think it's that elegant to slate an argued negative review and call for positive comments on LuLa.
3/5 stars is a reasonable review. Doesn't smell like a troll.
As explained in the other thread, I honestly learnt very little from the book having watched almost all the LuLa videos and having studied on my own, so my review would not be a positive (nor negative) one. Would you criticize me too in that case?
Live and let live, comments will come by themselves. As a photo, a book should stand on its own.
Leave all the pseudonym issue for the sociologists, at least he has not been insulted with his real name, here.
Peace :)
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Let's keep it on the positive. I for one have absolutely no problem with Jeff coming on here and mentioning the review: it's great the he and Eric Chan are on LuLa in the first place, and I love the fact that it's the same type of conversation you would have over a beer on the deck - honest and genuine. Plus, it's completely normal to promote one's work ("if you like this podcast please rate us on itunes..."). Although Jeff no doubt loves the subject matter, he ain't doing stuff like this for his health, and it sucks to see an inarticulate bad review out there in the early days. Clearly among the target audience (e.g., people on this forum), the reaction is very positive. If we want more content like what Jeff and Michael produce, I am all for supporting it.
And Jeff, just remember: Illegitimi non carborundum :) I know I'll have my positive review up by this weekend, I just have to get my hands on the dang book. I bet very soon the reviews will be 20-1 in favor.
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As explained in the other thread, I honestly learnt very little from the book having watched almost all the LuLa videos and having studied on my own, so my review would not be a positive (nor negative) one. Would you criticize me too in that case?
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In a word ...yes. You should have tried to think about the videos and the book separately which means you could have given the book a thumbs up....or down? A lot of book readers won't have bought the videos. Someone who considers themselves knowledgeable will get diminishing returns from further education.
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Let's keep it on the positive. I for one have absolutely no problem with Jeff coming on here and mentioning the review: it's great the he and Eric Chan are on LuLa in the first place, and I love the fact that it's the same type of conversation you would have over a beer on the deck - honest and genuine. Plus, it's completely normal to promote one's work ("if you like this podcast please rate us on itunes..."). Although Jeff no doubt loves the subject matter, he ain't doing stuff like this for his health, and it sucks to see an inarticulate bad review out there in the early days. Clearly among the target audience (e.g., people on this forum), the reaction is very positive. If we want more content like what Jeff and Michael produce, I am all for supporting it.
And Jeff, just remember: Illegitimi non carborundum :) I know I'll have my positive review up by this weekend, I just have to get my hands on the dang book. I bet very soon the reviews will be 20-1 in favor.
Batman, you're really missing the point I expressed.
It's fine to spread to the world about books we write or read, lot's of authors do that.
It's good to have people like Jeff here (believe me, I told him more than once in private) because we all owe them a lot. Eric wasn't mentioned here.
It's great all the content that Michael and Jeff (and Chris) produce, and I bought the most of it, making me a supporter as well.
It's absolutely not what I wrote.
My focus was on the insult of that specific "neutral" (really can't read it as negative and it's 3/5, not 1/5) review. Here we say: "Never speak about the absents".
I then add the need to respect the reviews. The user paid for the book and expressed his thoughts. I find less than elegant for the author to write on a +1mln-monthly-accesses forum a post like that. That's it.
In time the average rating will settle on a high level, with few negative comments, as the book deserves. No need to call for reinforcements where there's no battle.
Let's just respect the freedom of speech and go on with life.
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As explained in the other thread, I honestly learnt very little from the book having watched almost all the LuLa videos and having studied on my own, so my review would not be a positive (nor negative) one. Would you criticize me too in that case?
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In a word ...yes. You should have tried to think about the videos and the book separately which means you could have given the book a thumbs up....or down? A lot of book readers won't have bought the videos. Someone who considers themselves knowledgeable will get diminishing returns from further education.
So any book should have thumbs up because you'll always find a "newbier". Come on.
A five stars books will settle on four and half stars even if 2% of the readers didn't find it to be particularly useful.
It's math average in it's easiest form, the one which is used by any shop since decades.
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What I was driving at was your view was skewed by the fact that you had viewed the videos. As to "newbier" the only reference I could find was
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=newbier
And I am sure that isn't what you meant?
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As to "newbier" the only reference I could find was
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=newbier
And I am sure that isn't what you meant?
It is. I was going to write newbie-er as "more newbie than a newbie" and that was the only form that satisfied my english ignorance :D
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Whether I agree with that Mr. Goode or not about your writing style, I don't think it's that elegant to slate an argued negative review and call for positive comments on LuLa.
3/5 stars is a reasonable review. Doesn't smell like a troll.
As explained in the other thread, I honestly learnt very little from the book having watched almost all the LuLa videos and having studied on my own, so my review would not be a positive (nor negative) one. Would you criticize me too in that case?
Live and let live, comments will come by themselves. As a photo, a book should stand on its own.
Leave all the pseudonym issue for the sociologists, at least he has not been insulted with his real name, here.
Peace :)
I see Jeff's post as an attempt at humour but he can enlighten us on that post? :)
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With all do respect towards Mac-Paulo, I think you need to relax a bit. Since you've seen many LuLa videos, you'd think you'd have a firm grasp on the tone of voice Jeff uses in his writing and speaking.
This is an Internet forum. Although this is one of the better forums with many respectable members that act as great resources of artistic and technical information, it's still just an Internet forum. He's not pandering for positive reviews in a sleazy way, he humourously mentioned a negative review where his name wasn't even spelled correctly (perhaps connected to the credibility of said reviewer). It was most likely tongue-in-cheek like many of Jeff's quips. That's all I'll say about that.
I can't wait to get my hands on a copy. I really enjoy Jeff's writing style.
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With all do respect towards Mac-Paulo, I think you need to relax a bit. Since you've seen many LuLa videos, you'd think you'd have a firm grasp on the tone of voice Jeff uses in his writing and speaking.
You mispelled my name as well to remain on theme? :D
I'm very relaxed BTW. Reading & writing relaxed as usual. Thanks anyway. :)
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Good catch. No excuses can be made for it.
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Whether I agree with that Mr. Goode or not about your writing style, I don't think it's that elegant to slate an argued negative review and call for positive comments on LuLa.
First off, it's a 2 star not 3 star bud...
Second, I was responding to Erik's appreciation of the writing style and pointing out the irony that some wing nut doesn't like my writing and posted a review...I know I'm a good writer...I worked really hard at finding my voice for this book. I'm really quite good at explaining the innards of Lightroom and Camera Raw. So obviously, I disagree with Johnny B. But truth be told, what really pissed me off was he couldn't spell my friggin' name right–even though it's on the copy of the friggin' cover.
The screen name he/she/it is using actually kinda rings a bell. I suspect (but don't know for a fact) it may be somebody whose tender sensibilities I've offended in some forum post over the years. It struck me as a bit more personal that a legit review of my writing...
I know the book is good...I worked really hard at developing the idea and concepts for the last 4 years or so. Some of that thinking I contributed to Camera to Print & Screen when Mike and I reshot the original.
I'm sorry you don't see the differences nor have gotten more out of the book....have you been to the book's web site? Have you downloaded any of the sample DNGs and followed along in the book how I arrived at the final result?
I think you are getting confused... to quote Marshall McLuhan, The medium is the message. If you don't get that, I think you are missing a lot.
As for whether or not I should mention a bad review here and ask people who honestly seem to like the book to go post their thoughts. I'm not trolling for glowing reviews, only asking for people who really like the book to say so...you are welcome to post your review as well.
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First off, it's a 2 star not 3 star bud...
Gosh! Who knows why I read 3 stars and instead it's 2. Ok, no big deal.
I'm sorry you don't see the differences nor have gotten more out of the book....have you been to the book's web site? Have you downloaded any of the sample DNGs and followed along in the book how I arrived at the final result?
I think you are getting confused... to quote Marshall McLuhan, The medium is the message. If you don't get that, I think you are missing a lot.
As for whether or not I should mention a bad review here and ask people who honestly seem to like the book to go post their thoughts. I'm not trolling for glowing reviews, only asking for people who really like the book to say so...you are welcome to post your review as well.
Look, nobody ever told your book didn't took a lot of effort. Hey, about 7 centuries ago someone born not far from where I'm writing you now, and wrote La Divina Commedia.
Writing is a massive work. I know it and I'm an avid reader. You're not the first nor the last to work night and day on a book. My congratulations for this.
I understand you're feelings and I'm the first to feel pissed when someone misspell my name ("Paulo" is the most frequent, then "Pablo). As a forum member I may pretend to get mad of it and reply with irony but you're a respected photographer/author/tech guru. Elegance/tolerance should come first IMHO, especially when replying on the biggest store ever or on the most respected photography forum.
Having said that, honestly, I even downloaded a few of the DNG samples you put on the website, sure. Tweaked them a bit without following the step by step (which I mentally did while reading the book).
To tell the truth I expected something different, maybe something starting from the LuLa video geek-point and going further.
I mean, those picture by picture tutorials are really good and exceptionally detailed, but nothing more than what I do almost daily. Most of it thanks to LuLa videos and various articles read here and there.
Don't know what you're thinking I'm missing. I know for sure I expected a different product. My fault. That's it.
So now I'm really looking forward to the next book about Print, hoping to have some epiphany. :)
Regards,
Paolo
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Elegance/tolerance should come first IMHO, especially when replying on the biggest store ever or on the most respected photography forum.
That's you bud...that ain't me.
You keep trying to alter my behavior...and that simply will never happen. I am who/what I am and "tolerance" is not a characteristic of my being. Oh, and I'm not very "elegant" either.
Are you SURE you've watch me in the videos?
:~)
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That's you bud...that ain't me.
You keep trying to alter my behavior...and that simply will never happen. I am who/what I am and "tolerance" is not a characteristic of my being. Oh, and I'm not very "elegant" either.
Are you SURE you've watch me in the videos?
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;D I did and enjoyed it.
Haven't had the pleasure to meet you in person but I kinda made an idea of your persona. :)
That's why I wrote "should" and not "have to". ::)
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I purchased the book from Amazon (USA) when it first came out, and I've read it - everything but the purely Photoshop material. I use only Lightroom and found the book to be tremendously useful and to be well written. I just submitted a review on Amazon under the title "Must-Have Book for Processing Raw Files" (using a different pseudonym than my userid here). The review will probably appear on Amazon in a couple of days.
This book is a rare 'keeper' for me. Kudos to Mr. Schewe.
Dan
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Dan,
Thanks...I appreciate it and it seems Amazon has already posted your review!
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You have a sterling 5 star review average on amazon.de here in Germany. Of course, there is only one review at the moment. ;D
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Hi Jeff,
As I am obviously impressed by your book I will probably write a review on Amazon when back from my business trip.
Regarding the ground covered, I think it is a decent mix. Obviously, much of he stuff has been covered in several other books by yourself and the late Bruce Fraser and in the LuLa videos. Obviously you could dig in somr things in more detail, but the balance is generally good. What I appreciate is the clarity of your writing and that your presentation is free of some common BS. I have not found anything you have written I would object to.
The correctness, at least as I perceive it, of text made me believe that it was written in cooperation by Eric Chan, but I have been informed that was not the case. I am impressed by your book and look forward to new chapters of the Reichman & Schewe show, which I consider the best form of entertainment.
Best regards
Erik
Many thanks...I'm gratified you think that! I work pretty hard to keep thing concise but throw in some spice as well :-)
Unfortunately some wing nut named Johnny B Goode seems to think I'm a very bad writer & said so in an Amazon review...course he called Mr. Shewe so I'm not too sure about his reading comprehension...I mean, my name is spelled correctly on the cover of the book :-)
Might be useful if some other folks who DO like the writing post some additional reviews. I would hate for Johnny B to have the last word...
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The correctness, at least as I perceive it, of text made me believe that it was written in cooperation by Eric Chan, but I have been informed that was not the case.
Well, if by cooperation you mean I learned about what I wrote about from Eric, that's true but a lot of that happened last year when I was working on extremely early versions of ACR7/LR4 in a pre-beta capacity. Eric does send me work (and a couple of others) as it is in progress and asks for feedback. So to that extent, I guess I'm involved in the development...and there are a couple of places I specifically got Eric's permission to quote him-in particular for the motives for creating the PV 2012. But that side bar actually came from an email Eric sent I believe, to Martin Evening and myself.
However, from the time I started writing in April till when the book was submitted, I only had a couple of brief questions I asked Eric about a few of the more technical aspects and of course, the whole DNG Flat Field plug-in stuff. Eric was otherwise engaged (working on ACR 7.1 & LR 4.1).
That's not to say I haven't learned a lot from Eric (thanks Eric)...but I've not ONLY learned from Eric.
:~)
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Congrats on the release Jeff!
Cheers,
Bernard
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Jeff is it true that the content of the book is really Michael's and you were in reality the ghost writer? He advertised it because he is getting 95% of the royalties. And he gets most of the loot and you get the flak from nit picking buyers. ;) ;D
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Jeff is it true that the content of the book is really Michael's and you were in reality the ghost writer? He advertised it because he is getting 95% of the royalties. And he gets most of the loot and you get the flak from nit picking buyers. ;) ;D
Yeah, sure...that's the full and complete truth–not!
As I said before, The Digital Negative (http://thedigitalnegativebook.com/wp/) is completely my fault. No blame should be attributed to Michael or the LuLa community...if you wanna blame anybody, blame me.
:~)
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Very little to blame. ;D
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Kudos to Jeff. Step by step examples are invaluable. Unlike the typical "cover everything" PS/LR book, this focuses on the stuff I actually will use. I definitely have been getting lazy with PP since process 2012 was released (easy to move a couple sliders and it's "good enough"). I think the book will be a bracing corrective.
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I'm definitely getting a copy. But I'll wait until I've seen it before writing my 5-star review. ;)
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I've had my copy for a couple of weeks but just sat down to begin reading it last night. Right away I found the great 'money' quote (in discussing bracketing of exposures in the film days and in particular 8x10 transparencies), "...I charged clients by the sheet, so if I shot more film, I made more money." I guess this was one good thing about the good old days! :D
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It is a 5 star book in my humble opinion. Even an experienced user of Lightroom will find some pearls in the book. If you add Seth and Jamie's book on workflow then you have the basis of the definitive text of all of Lightroom. If you want further reference, then add Martin Evening's book. Can't wait for Jeff's book on printing. This is my 2 cents, anyway.
Jed
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I am still waiting for my copy of 'The Digital Negative' from Amazon.
When Jeff's book on printing gets published that will also be a compulsory acquisition.
I have NO doubt that the combination will quickly gain true classic status and become mandatory reading for anyone interested in modern digital imaging and printing.
I have full confidence that Jeff will produce a book that will be technically complete with true insight into the process but also inspirational from an artistic perspective (no pressure Jeff).
My $0.02 worth
Tony Jay
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I have full confidence that Jeff will produce a book that will be technically complete with true insight into the process but also inspirational from an artistic perspective (no pressure Jeff).
Naw...no pressure :~)
(ask me again at the beginning of Feb 2013 when the manuscript is due)
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If its any consolation Jeff I have got my pom-poms and short skirt out - on second thoughts perhaps it's best not to dwell on that sort of mental image...
Regards
Tony Jay
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Got mine Friday. So far, excellent. And Jeff I too am glad you kept the history stuff in there. This feels like a story, not just a reference book. Ooh-ooh: Dare I say a pager turner?!
Did I just chimp?
Dave
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Did I just chimp?
Nope, that's a 2/3 chimp.
For a full chimp ya gotta go ooh, ooh, ooh.
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I ordered mine on the publication date, Amazon had some left in stock. They use some FedEx & US Postal service combination. I have been following the tracking, the Dolts at Federal Excuse sent my package to Maine. I live in NH...sigh.
Why anyone uses FedEx is beyond my comprehension.(I have had nothing but trouble with FedEx) so I wait for them to sort it out.
Sorry Jeff, no 5 star review from me this week ;)
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Just got my copy from Barnes & Noble. I am sure it is a fine book, content-wise, but I immediately noticed a glaring omission: there are no white-cotton gloves included! Or a bar of soap, at least. I mean, given the nature of the book, it i going to be read and re-read, used and re-used, and the predominantly white cover is not going to stay so for long. And don't get me started on the rest of the cover design (btw, I know it is not Jeff's).
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there are no white-cotton gloves included! Or a bar of soap, at least. I mean, given the nature of the book, it i going to be read and re-read, used and re-sued, and the predominantly white cover is not going to stay so for long.
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You need to buy a backup copy of the book...maybe two copies.
:~)
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there are no white-cotton gloves included! Or a bar of soap, at least. I mean, given the nature of the book, it i going to be read and re-read, used and re-sued, and the predominantly white cover is not going to stay so for long.
You need to buy a backup copy of the book...maybe two copies.
:~)
That is so perfect, can't claim "great minds", but actually examined the paper and binding method this morning on mine as it has been pressed open in various places for a week now. Thought occurred that charts on pg 256 and 257 should have included the link to a backup copy of Digital Negative at the Image Archive /output link .
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Slobodan,
How can you call yourself a photographer if you don't already own a pair of white cotton gloves?
I have white cotton gloves. I also have a bar of soap, so I'm a Photographer! :D
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Jeff, I got my book today. Looks great.
Can you comment on the accuracy of the photo printing in the book? Are they printed to your satisfaction for teaching purposes?
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Can you comment on the accuracy of the photo printing in the book?
Are you asking if I think the CMYK reproduction in the book is good? Yes, for every copy I've seen.
Of course, a glitch can happen in a print run. If you have a book that is messed up in some way, you can get an exchange through Peachpit.
On the book's web site in the FAQs (http://thedigitalnegativebook.com/wp/faqs/) I mention how I do the RGB > CMYK conversions. I'll also cover it in the next book.
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My copy came Friday, I spent much of today reading it. Well done I thought. As others have said, much of what is in the book is covered on the Lula videos, however if you do not have the Lula videos....
There are some sections that I find very useful, the B&W section, something I am currently exploring. Since my Photoshop skills are basic I found that section to be of particular interest to me as well. I have yet to get a firm grasp on masks & layers, it's coming slowly & this book is going to help some.
The seal episode was worth the price of the book. Not that I wish any harm come to Jeff or anyone else, It was just a surprise I did not expect as I have not heard the story before.
I am looking forward to the print book
Warren
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Got my copy a couple of days ago and I have been working through it, slowly, in the evenings. It's good, and it's written well, too. When I ordered mine, Amazon said that it would be a while; then a couple of days later, I got a notification that it was on the way, so they must've gotten a new shipment...
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John,
Thanks for the kind words...yeah the Amazon deal is still weird. Sales outstripped Amazon inventory–which surprised Peachpit a lot. My editor and marketing people are still trying to figure out what happened but I tried to explain the "Power of LuLa"...I guess they don't understand :~)
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Got my copy today - its a goody.
Congratulations Jeff!
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I got mine last week and am about 2/3 through the first reading. It will obviously take at least one more on much of the material.
It is a fine book, the writing is very clear.
Congratulations, Jeff. I hope you keep writing.
Alan
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What I have found to be a really instructive exercise: develop Jeff's images myself, then compare to his final product. Very humbling! But so valuable! I see what I was not seeing and not appreciating in the image, as well as pp technique.
I have just begun doing this, so have many more to do. What a boon! Thanks, Jeff, for making your images available.
P.S. I really hope you come up with a way to provide full resolution images for sharpening demonstration. Perhaps just small but meaningful pieces of images?
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P.S. I really hope you come up with a way to provide full resolution images for sharpening demonstration. Perhaps just small but meaningful pieces of images?
I'm reluctant to post the image of Roxy...but I'm testing saving out a small crop similar to the main crop of the Bryce image as a tiff and open back into LR4 and export as a DNG. I'm thinking as long as I turn off any sharpening or noise reduction and apply the the Detail panel, it prolly won't matter too much that the DNG is based on the tiff instead of the raw file...we'll see. I will be uploading the chapel image I used to show the noise reduction in chapter 3.
I'm glad you guys like the downsampled DNGs...it works really well as a vehicle for showing the tone/color adjustments. It's just tough when dealing with sharpening to not have the full resolution.
I will be uploading some images from chapter 5 as well. They will be downsampled psd files with layers intact. I'm also going to upload the progressive sharpening and midtone contrast steps as actions...so, more to come :~)
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Just a quick ping to let readers that TheDigitalNegativeBook.com site is currently popping a bandwidth exceeded message when trying to get to the site...I'm working on it, but today is Sunday so I'm not sure when I will be in contact with my ISP...I'll report back when I hear something. In the meantime, sorry for the inconvenience :~(
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OK, the bandwidth limit issue is fixed...so it's back up–nice to know my IPS answers emails on a Sunday–thanks Sam!
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http://www.amazon.com/The-Digital-Negative-Processing-Lightroom/dp/0321839579/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350877265&sr=8-1&keywords=schewe+digital+negative (http://www.amazon.com/The-Digital-Negative-Processing-Lightroom/dp/0321839579/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350877265&sr=8-1&keywords=schewe+digital+negative)
Hey, what's up with the strange message on Amazon?
"Item Under Review
While this item is available from other marketplace sellers on this page, it is not currently offered by Amazon.com because customers have told us there may be something wrong with our inventory of the item, the way we are shipping it, or the way it's described here. (Thanks for the tip!)
We're working to fix the problem as quickly as possible."
By the way, the book is excellent! And, thank you for making the files available.
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Hey, what's up with the strange message on Amazon?
I have no friggin' idea.and I've fired off an email complaining about this...
It's bullshyte...from the first weekend, Amazon has screwed the pooch by under-ordering, then stating the delivery would be 1-2 days then stating 1-2 weeks...then finally having the book in stock and now stating the book is an "Item Under Review"...
The whole Amazon experience on this book has sucked, big time...and some heads may roll before the next book comes out...
Sorry folks...this is above my pay-grade and ain't my fault. But I will try to get to the bottom of it....and squeeze somebody's balls.
It purely pisses me off (and you really don't wanna piss me off, ya know?).
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I have no friggin' idea.and I've fired off an email complaining about this...
It's bullshyte...from the first weekend, Amazon has screwed the pooch by under-ordering, then stating the delivery would be 1-2 days then stating 1-2 weeks...then finally having the book in stock and now stating the book is an "Item Under Review"...
The whole Amazon experience on this book has sucked, big time...and some heads may roll before the next book comes out...
Sorry folks...this is above my pay-grade and ain't my fault. But I will try to get to the bottom of it....and squeeze somebody's balls.
It purely pisses me off (and you really don't wanna piss me off, ya know?).
Jeff, FYI, there is no such message on Amazon.de here in Germany. It is business as usual.
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Jeff, FYI, there is no such message on Amazon.de here in Germany. It is business as usual.
thanks for the info...I guess it's Amazon USA that is screwed up...figures...
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Jeff
Check in Amazon.co.uk
All ok there.
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Sadly, 'The Digital Negative' has become a victim of its own success.
On the plus side it is possible that both Peachpit and Amazon may both be a little better prepared for when things go nuts with the release of Jeff's next book on printing.
We are all pulling for you Jeff!
Tony Jay
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Thanks Tony...
I have talked with the publisher and found this: it seems Amazon, which has 18 different distribution points in the US, will put up that Item Under Review for just about any customer service issue. So, if somebody got a book that was damaged in shipment, called customer service, the book (or any Amazon item) can be tagged with the Item Under Review and the Buy button removed. It can take 24 hrs or longer to get the Buy button back up.
Between under ordering and selling out, further problems with availability and now the Item Under Review, Amazon isn't doing too swell for this book.
So, if you want the book here in the US, may I suggest another vender such as Peachpit directly (http://www.peachpit.com/store/digital-negative-raw-image-processing-in-lightroom-9780321839572) (for print and ebooks) or Barnes & Noble (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-digital-negative-jeff-schewe/1110854943?ean=9780321839572) (for print and Nook versions).
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Sadly, 'The Digital Negative' has become a victim of its own success.
On the plus side it is possible that both Peachpit and Amazon may both be a little better prepared for when things go nuts with the release of Jeff's next book on printing.
We are all pulling for you Jeff!
Tony Jay
Pre-ordered the book from Amazon USA a long time ago. It landed at my doorstep, in Switzerland, about a couple of weeks ago.
It's a very solid book with plenty of useful info, easy to follow.
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Congratulations Jeff on the creation of yet another masterpiece. Your insight into the procedures involved in massaging a raw file in both LR/ACR and PS is invaluable. I was especially delighted by your explanations on the new process (2012) as it relates to tone-mapping and on the behavior of the adjustment brushes and their interaction with the adjustments made in the Develop module.
You made my head hurt once again.....thanks!
Dave
P.S. ordered through Chapters on-line in Canada and received it several days later.
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FWIW Jeff I have nothing but praise for the book. It was waiting for me when I got home this morning and having read the first chapter I really appreciate the writing style (akin to your style on the LuLa videos) - I would prefer to call it refreshingly 'robust' rather than, as you put it in the Introduction, "my tone can be a bit, uh,verbally aggressive".
Congratulations on a fine piece of work as it leaves me looking forward to your next solo publishing venture - The Print??
Barry
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I would prefer to call it refreshingly 'robust' rather than, as you put it in the Introduction, "my tone can be a bit, uh,verbally aggressive".
I actually got that moniker here on LuLa...it seems sometimes people don't like my refreshingly 'robust' approach to posting here. Although I would say in the last year or so, I've actually been very well behaved! Chris even mentioned it when we were shooting with Eric Chan in June. Maybe I should "stir things up" around here?
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Hello,
received the book a few days ago and can only confirm all the positive remarks from above. I have a slight problem though. I downloaded some sample pictures and wanted to open them in CS4 but it does not work. I get a "Photoshop does not recognize this type of file" message.
Thank you for your help
Sigi
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I have a slight problem though. I downloaded some sample pictures and wanted to open them in CS4 but it does not work. I get a "Photoshop does not recognize this type of file" message.
Correct...the example files are Lossey DNG files that are compatible with Lightroom 4 and Camera Raw 7...sorry.
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Just checking in again to say thank you once more for an illuminating and enjoyable tutorial on "having fun" . The fact that you use so many sub optimal captures, but proceeded forward with them, playing, has been etremely educational for me. The back and forth with global balanced by local just somehow engrained itself as I worked through the second time, and was amazed to discover how much it opened my tonal and optimizing thinking. This book is full of gems. The things I "kinda" had a feeling about became understandable and workable, and cross referencing with Martin's LR4 book just put the icing on the cake. I don't know...maybe my mind was just ready to understand things with new clarity, but the delivery system, Jeff, is just what the doctor ordered. Thank you for this book. The only other way I can express this, is that with the H Springer, I just did....everything felt natural and riding through storms produced no fear...just adventure....that is what your book has done for my progress in processing, and by extension the things I am seeing as I shoot. Good on ya!
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Jeff, unbeknownst to you I've always considered you in the same vein as that crazy uncle that only comes over at Christmas and says all the wrong things in front of my new girlfriend. I got a kick out of you acknowledging your aggressive posting style a few posts back. Just like my mom who keeps inviting him back, I can see why Michael tolerates your occasional, shall we say, provocative posts here.
All that being said, I've learned a ton from your book. Bravo.
I'll disagree with you here in the future at my own peril.
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Hi Jeff, I also enjoyed your book a lot especially processing the examples. Where it gets difficult is the detail section though. I think the examples do not have the same resolution as the ones you worked with. This is understandable but maybe you could provide small crops for the detail section?
cheers
Michael
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Where it gets difficult is the detail section though. I think the examples do not have the same resolution as the ones you worked with.
The Detail (sharpening and noise reduction) examples have not yet been posted yet...soon :~)
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Correct, I was referring to the cover image which is partly about sharpening. Anyway, further example data is always welcome :).
cheers
Michael
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I'm coming into this thread a bit late. I've been watching the LuLa Lightroom 4 tutorials and think they're excellent. They're exactly what I didn't need to be doing during exams the other week (first year law student) ;D
What are some of the differences between the book and the tutorial?
My biggest area of interest is using Lightroom artistically. I feel like I have a grip on the basics of what the controls in the develop panel do, but I always feel like I'm surfing over to 500px and wondering how the heck these people are getting such wild color, or looking at before and afters at places like MCP Actions (http://multiplechoices.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=19390848&AlbumKey=TJ4QRK) which sell Lightroom presets, and don't really understand what I'm seeing well enough to recreate some of the looks myself.
I'm going to order it regardless, but those are things I'm particularly interested in.
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James welcome to LuLa - I see that this is only your third post.
Jeff's book is not limited to a discussion about Lightroom.
It starts with the nature of digital images and the file types and goes from there.
Postprocessing is not just how Lightroom works but also incorporates those occasions when Photoshop would be required for specific tasks.
The idea (Jeff is welcome to contradict me if he wants) is to present an application independent approach to post-processing using the most useful and practical courses of action.
Lightroom does play a starring role but Photoshop also has a more limited, but still Oscar-nominated, cameo role.
Good luck with your studies by the way.
Tony Jay
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Hi Tony. Thank you for the welcome!
I was able to flip through the book at Barnes & Noble today, which made me glad. When I called last week, it wasnt in stock. The "Advanced Editing" chapter looks perfect for me! I can't wait to order it.
I'd love to write more, but I'm on my iPhone :)