Luminous Landscape Forum
The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: Bruce Cox on September 09, 2012, 01:33:05 pm
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This is from Boston, 1982. How do I make it better?
Bruce
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Not sure, but I can share how I would adapt the shot to my like. I prefer black & white, and in this particular shot I think the focus is mostly on the two men in the middle, as they are looking directly at you.
My personal view of the shot would be something like this:
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Not sure, but I can share how I would adapt the shot to my like. I prefer black & white, and in this particular shot I think the focus is mostly on the two men in the middle, as they are looking directly at you.
My personal view of the shot would be something like this:
I think the man on the right is not looking at the camera.
Bruce
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Seems like an odd question to me. What is it about the shot that you like and want to "make better"? The shot doesn't move me, but perhaps there's something in it that's meaningful to you. If so, see what you can do to emphasize that factor.
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It's not too bad as a street shot. Reminds me, at least vaguely of this Cartier-Bresson: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=henri+cartier-bresson+chicago&start=178&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1T4GGRP_enUS499US500&biw=1024&bih=917&tbm=isch&tbnid=QReWBUJTCveetM:&imgrefurl=http://www.jacksonfineart.com/Henri-CartierBresson-4733.html&docid=HLEZbYku7phjaM&imgurl=http://www.jacksonfineart.com/images/artists/large/4733.jpg&w=595&h=395&ei=-vpMUO-2MLL02wWr6YGgAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=132&vpy=536&dur=222&hovh=183&hovw=276&tx=205&ty=98&sig=116052534943518039306&page=9&tbnh=181&tbnw=264&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:178,i:333
But I don't get the point. What does the girl have to do with it? She's looking beyond the passing politicians, and apparently isn't interested in them.
The original, wider, crop is better.
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It's not too bad as a street shot. Reminds me, at least vaguely of this Cartier-Bresson: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=henri+cartier-bresson+chicago&start=178&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1T4GGRP_enUS499US500&biw=1024&bih=917&tbm=isch&tbnid=QReWBUJTCveetM:&imgrefurl=http://www.jacksonfineart.com/Henri-CartierBresson-4733.html&docid=HLEZbYku7phjaM&imgurl=http://www.jacksonfineart.com/images/artists/large/4733.jpg&w=595&h=395&ei=-vpMUO-2MLL02wWr6YGgAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=132&vpy=536&dur=222&hovh=183&hovw=276&tx=205&ty=98&sig=116052534943518039306&page=9&tbnh=181&tbnw=264&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:178,i:333
But I don't get the point. What does the girl have to do with it? She's looking beyond the passing politicians, and apparently isn't interested in them.
The original, wider, crop is better.
The guy in HCB's photograph has much of the city and it's symbols around him; my swell was just going through a shopping district. The girl, admittedly a civilian, is most of what I have for context. I don't think the guys on either side are captains of industry; from the movies I have seen I make them for bodyguards. At the time I was relatively new to the big city and didn't think of local politicians as being so heavily guarded. I never investigated to find out who they were. Attached is the full frame. I had the camera on my knee or something and was trying to appear to be looking somewhere else.
Bruce
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RSL:
What does the girl have to do with it?
And also in line with Brett's suggestion. . .
I will make it smaller.
Bruce
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Bruce -
The newer crop (directly above) makes it a better, more focussed picture, but unless you know the cast of characters, which I bet most won't, it doesn't do anything at all to create a special shot of any interest. Beyond a couple of guys outdoors, it says absolutely nothing at all to me.
Were it Sinatra or Elvis, on the other hand, or better, Sinatra and Elvis...
;-)
Rob C
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I like it better with the girl.
She's not looking at them, but she's looking at something behind them, out of view, which is arguably better. Not knowing what she's looking at is powerful.
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I like it better with the girl.She's not looking at them, but she's looking at something behind them, out of view, which is arguably better. Not knowing what she's looking at is powerful.
So do I, but not in this shot.
;-)
Rob C
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Whether the girl is left in or out depends on what you think the photo is about.
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To be completely honest, the image doesn't seem to have a clear and compelling subject or story. I think that there isn't a crop or post processing technique that can take this image and make it superior. It might be intriguing to you, but the lack of consensus on the image tends to suggest it is time to move on to greener pastures.
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To be completely honest, the image doesn't seem to have a clear and compelling subject or story. I think that there isn't a crop or post processing technique that can take this image and make it superior. It might be intriguing to you, but the lack of consensus on the image tends to suggest it is time to move on to greener pastures.
I just knew it: landscape or bust!
Rob C
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I just knew it: landscape or bust!
Rob C
...and those greener landscape pastures should be empty and over saturated.
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/is-this-the-most-viewed-photo-of-all-time-20120718-22961.html
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...and those greener landscape pastures should be empty and over saturated.
And that means you can't use a model, Rob. Sorry!
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I dunno, the landscape guys are all up tight about 'the hand of man' but seemingly silent about 'the bottom of woman'.
Rob might be ok here.
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Many thanks, the photo may not have gone very far, but my view of it is more balanced now. Old work seems to be at least as tricky a new. Ain't no easy way.
Bruce
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...and those greener landscape pastures should be empty and over saturated.
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/is-this-the-most-viewed-photo-of-all-time-20120718-22961.html
I really must get out more; never seen that picture in my life, or if I have, it left no impression or memory whatsoever. God help Bill Gates.
;-)
Rob C