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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: jeremypayne on July 01, 2012, 08:46:13 am

Title: Just another day in paradise ...
Post by: jeremypayne on July 01, 2012, 08:46:13 am
Two different takes on the same idea .... which do you prefer?

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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 01, 2012, 09:21:01 am
I vote for the first. It has an elegant simplicity, and the dark form coming in from the right makes the image.
The second one has an additional dark form moving in from the right, and the tension between the two feels to me as if it contradicts the mood expressed by the tonalities of the rest of the image.

Tomorrow I might prefer the second, however.

I find these well seen and nicely balanced. Good work!

Eric
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Post by: Chris Calohan on July 01, 2012, 10:23:41 am
I like both as well, but I find the darker green strip in the second image, combined with the two triangular shapes created by the white and green creates a wonderful visual tension that almost "throbs" against the rest of the image that while pleasant to the eye serves more as accentuation than emphasis... Very nicely thought out and executed.
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Post by: Justan on July 01, 2012, 10:55:26 am
Both are great captures!
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Post by: RSL on July 01, 2012, 12:01:09 pm
Like Eric, I prefer #1, though both are very good.
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Post by: Bruce Cox on July 01, 2012, 12:23:26 pm
The greater saturation of the blue at the top of both images runs a little out of balance with the rest, for me.  I like them and holding my hand above them gets me involved, but is awkward.

Bruce
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Post by: francois on July 01, 2012, 12:33:31 pm
I like both too but my preference goes to number 2, I like the curves of the horizon and beach…
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Post by: Jim Pascoe on July 01, 2012, 01:03:09 pm
These are really beautiful!  I think I have to go for the first one - but I just want to crop the top 1/3 off and make it a square ( I like squares).  A picture that defies pixel-peeping!

Jim
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Post by: Rob C on July 01, 2012, 04:26:53 pm
No question: the second wins my vote.

Rob C
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Post by: Tim Gray on July 01, 2012, 11:20:57 pm
#2 better balance.
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Post by: Riaan van Wyk on July 02, 2012, 12:54:25 pm
I vote for number two, as Tim mentioned- better balance.
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 02, 2012, 01:10:30 pm
The can work together in a diptych (or triptych, if you have more versions). You can actually make a triptych from these two, by putting #1 in the center, #2 on the left and a flipped #2 on the right. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Just another day in paradise ...
Post by: jeremypayne on July 03, 2012, 06:26:51 am
The can work together in a diptych (or triptych, if you have more versions). You can actually make a triptych from these two, by putting #1 in the center, #2 on the left and a flipped #2 on the right. Just a thought.

Thanks, all!  Still haven't had a chance to print them yet, but I am home so I will probably print a few up.

It's a large series of exposures.  A triptych is an interesting idea ...
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Post by: Rob C on July 03, 2012, 09:46:10 am
Thanks, all!  Still haven't had a chance to print them yet, but I am home so I will probably print a few up.

It's a large series of exposures.  A triptych is an interesting idea ...



And very much a sign of indecision.

;-)

Rob C
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Post by: John R on July 03, 2012, 09:39:11 pm
Very nice. It looks like the second image is about half stop darker, or it is simply processed with greater contrast. The first is soft and subtle like most of my unprocessed jpeg files. I now look at both soft and sharp verrsions and almost always choose the subtler version. But this always depends on the subject and what you are trying to convey. I am curious as to why you chose the portrait format over the landscape. The shapes and lateral movement suggest a landscape format for me. Nevertheless, a fine image.

JMR
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Post by: Colorwave on July 06, 2012, 12:07:53 am
The Big Island vote goes to #2.  It has more secret sauce.
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Post by: jeremypayne on July 09, 2012, 09:28:56 pm
Very nice. It looks like the second image is about half stop darker, or it is simply processed with greater contrast. The first is soft and subtle like most of my unprocessed jpeg files.

The second was more heavily processed and went to PS and back ... I'll leave the recipe out of the discussion for now.

I am curious as to why you chose the portrait format over the landscape. The shapes and lateral movement suggest a landscape format for me.

Funny you should say that ... I was working on some up-scaled versions and using other crops like squares and stretched out horizontals.  I'll attach one ...

Nevertheless, a fine image.
JMR

Thanks!  It was an image I had in my head before I ever even got to the island.  Things rarely work as planned in my experience, but this one came out just as I had hoped.  
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Post by: Bruce Cox on July 10, 2012, 12:01:55 pm
The horizontal, unlike the verticals, makes me believe the deep blue.

Bruce
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 10, 2012, 06:53:39 pm
I like them all, but the horizontal is my favorite. Very satisfying.
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Post by: RSL on July 10, 2012, 07:41:28 pm
+1
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Post by: John R on July 12, 2012, 06:59:23 pm
Just saw the reply. Over the years I have found most people (non-photographers) are really drawn to bolder and more saturated colours than the subtler softer colours, particulary if one juxtaposes two versions of a subject as you have done. I still like the softer less contrasty version. Note how pronounced and darkish the bottom right edge is compared to the first version. I feel the lighter version allows the viewer to swim and bask in the colours, which are complimentary. So it is subtler with more emotional impact, at least for me. But you can still increase the contrast in the top portion while minimizing the contrast in the bottom portion. This is a technique I often use when I don't want contrastiness to everwhelm and/or be the subject itself, particulary in this kind of subtle image. Nevertheless, even in its more contrasty version, it is very nice: it exudes a timeless quality and reminds me of lying or walking in the sand and watching the sea and sky and clouds as they roll by.

JMR
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Post by: jule on July 13, 2012, 07:41:52 pm
Jeremy I actually prefer the horizontal one.. it seems to be a 'clearer' manifestation of the 'blurriness'. Not sure whether you have squashed it up to for the verticals,  because the resolution in the first two seems to be indicating on my screen a lot of artifacts happening and something isn't quite right. Perhpas in print it may be diffferent though. In the first one there seems to be evidence at the top of a little chunk of grit on your sensor.

Julie
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Post by: jeremypayne on July 13, 2012, 10:14:01 pm
It is interesting ... This is the hardest image I have ever tried to print.

@john ... On screen, I am most drawn to a slightly toned-down version of #2 ... But #1 is holding its own in prints.  I still havn't printed one I love ... But I know it is there for me to uncover.   The final print could very well come from a version of #1.  The feeling it is eliciting is what i was going for ... That palette is so relaxing ... This one is likely gonna end up in a real prominent spot in my home and I bet I can sell a few.  I want to try some matte papers ... Everything i have tried so far has been ilford gfs or epson premium luster.

@julie ... Yes, my sensor was definitely dirty and I shot at f22 to maximize the exposure time which makes them very sharp. It took me a long time to cleanup the file, but the nice thing about digital was I could copy/paste the fix across all the different takes.  I think i finally caught the one you are seeing, but I need to go back and triple check ...

The slight banding and posterization is a jpeg/8bit thing I think  ... In LR and print the gradients are nice and smooth.

That particular horizontal take is a upscaled and stretched version of #2.  I have been experimenting with blurring and then upscaling and the stretching.

I'm enjoying the journey on this one.



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Post by: degrub on July 14, 2012, 12:02:31 am
Would it work as a cibachrome print ?
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Post by: petermfiore on July 14, 2012, 08:05:44 am
Jeremy you like Rothko Too?



www.peterfiore.com
Title: Re: Just another day in paradise ...
Post by: jeremypayne on July 14, 2012, 09:09:48 am
Jeremy you like Rothko Too?

www.peterfiore.com

I do ...  and a good friend actually owns a few originals.

BUT ... this particular image was definitely inspired by another photographer I know. 

Her name is Tapp Francke. http://www.franckephotography.com/

I own a few large prints of hers from the Chromethesia series.

I have Sagaponick, Hidden Dragon and The Dream Before Awakening.

@ degrub ... Cibachrome is definitely an option ... I am pretty sure Tapp's are all Cibachrome's mounted between aluminum and facemounted plexi ... they look GREAT.