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The Art of Photography => But is it Art? => Topic started by: Isaac on May 10, 2012, 12:12:37 pm

Title: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Isaac on May 10, 2012, 12:12:37 pm
"... the camera saves an additional, optimally-framed image of your subject. By combining the rule of thirds with advanced imaging technologies, Auto Portrait Framing mode is the easy way to a balanced, perfectly-composed portrait."


"An ordinary photo automatically becomes an artistic, creative portrait (http://www.cyberscholar.com/?company_site/index/Sony/training_library/module/38266/4/469.cfm) with ease!"
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: louoates on May 10, 2012, 04:55:45 pm
I'm waiting for a camera that would automatically delete any image it determines is ugly.
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 10, 2012, 07:58:08 pm
I'm waiting for a camera that would automatically delete any image it determines is ugly.
I had a camera once that I thought was doing just that. It was a Mamiya 6 RF (film) camera I got after many years with view cameras and SLRs. Turns out that the "deleted" (i.e., blank) images were always at the beginning of a roll of film... (because I was forgetting to remove the lens cap.   :-[  )
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: bill t. on May 10, 2012, 09:35:29 pm
Well, the crop completely loses the fact that the guy likes to peek at beach babes through the awesome looking binocs, which is the only thing in that image that is even remotely interesting.  Less information is not always better.  When cameras can automatically SELL my pictures, I'll be first in line.
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Isaac on May 11, 2012, 11:54:40 am
The marketing copy doesn't claim that the images will be interesting ;-)
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 11, 2012, 03:01:48 pm
Ah, now I get it (and the sample verifies this): You get "artistic" and "creative" but not "interesting."
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: louoates on May 11, 2012, 05:24:47 pm
No, no, no! You've got to use the camera's preferences to get these auto features.
Bill, you obviously didn't check the "Commercially Salable" box.
And remember to un-check the "Camera Club Entry" box.
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: bill t. on May 11, 2012, 08:56:21 pm
No, no, no! You've got to use the camera's preferences to get these auto features.
Bill, you obviously didn't check the "Commercially Salable" box.
And remember to un-check the "Camera Club Entry" box.

Advanced computer skills are so important these days!
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Justan on May 12, 2012, 11:56:25 am
You didnt read the small print! Those options will be buy-up extras, in next year’s model. There will be more options the year after that. And by the year after that, most of the options will work okay. Except by then the camera will also have more mega pixels.

And then, the year after that, Nikon will buy the company and disappear the camera.

It’s bad for business if people can get good pictures every time.
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: luxborealis on May 12, 2012, 09:29:11 pm
Wow - finally I can shoot without thinking; I can shoot without looking! Fine art at the push of a button. Isn't technology just amazing?
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Isaac on May 13, 2012, 12:43:50 pm
Wow - finally I can shoot without thinking; I can shoot without looking!

By your standards I must have been a true prodigy - I was taking photos without thinking decades ago. Indeed, some would say that I achieved the acme of mindless photo taking; but that's too immodest, there are many others who I must admit put even less thought into their photos.

As for not looking, that's a whole different discussion (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=64351.0).
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 13, 2012, 01:23:37 pm
In a workshop I took years ago with Minor White, he told us of an experiment he had tried in an earlier workshop. On a field trip, half of the workshop members were blindfolded and the others not. Each then turned around slowly a couple of times and was then handed a camera. Each picked a direction (the un-blindfolded ones tried for "interesting" shots) and took one picture.

Back at the lab, each processed his/her photo and made a print. The consensus was that the blindfold shots were more interesting than the carefully composed shots.

Ya can't win! ;D
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: bill t. on May 13, 2012, 08:19:23 pm
If I ever give a workshop, I think I will make all the students do THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppTfPwluy9k) exercise in Not Looking to sort of loosen them up.  Bring your brand new D800e's and best lenses.  This should encourage small, intimate class sizes.
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 13, 2012, 11:08:18 pm
I think I can find an old Instamatic around somewhere. Can I take your workshop, Bill?
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: aduke on May 14, 2012, 12:57:54 am
Its not all that difficult. I was carrying the 7D on a wrist-strap when this fellow approached; lifted the camera a took the shot. The lens, a 10-22, had been focused at the hyperfocal distance for the aperture, f8.

Alan
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Fine_Art on May 16, 2012, 02:41:07 am
Sony continues the Japanese fascination with robots. Too many gimmick engineers, not enough lens engineers.
Title: Re: automatic "artistic" "creative" portrait
Post by: Isaac on May 16, 2012, 01:23:56 pm
Sony...
Perhaps they understand why people buy Sony cameras.