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Title: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 02, 2012, 02:21:38 pm
I have read the instructions for inserting a photo in a thread query but am still puzzled on just how to do it.  Let's say I have a JPG photo on my hard drive that I want to insert as an example of a problem I'm having.  I tried a copy-and-paste action, but this doesn't work.  What am I not understanding from the forum instructions?  Many thanks.  Jim 
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 02, 2012, 03:24:10 pm
You need to know the location of the jpeg on your hard drive.

When you click on the "Reply" button at the bottom of a post, a new window opens, labeled "Post Reply," where you will find a large text box available for writing your reply. Below that text box, under "Additional Options..." you will see a grayed-out box labeled "Attach:" with a "Browse" button at the right.

Click on the "Browse" button, and a file browser of your local computer will appear. You need to navigate through that browser to find the jpeg file you wish to attach. Once you click on the file in the browser and click the "Open" button, the path to that file will appear in the previously grayed-out box. Then, when you click on the "Post" button, your file will be uploaded to the LuLa server along with whatever you wrote in the text box.

If you want to attach additional photos (up to a maximum of four in any one post), click on "(more attachments)."

This is exactly what I did on my PC to attach this photo of flowers in my yard. I hope this helps.

Eric
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 02, 2012, 03:57:26 pm
Quote from: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 02, 2012, 03:24:10 pm
You need to know the location of the jpeg on your hard drive.

When you click on the "Reply" button at the bottom of a post, a new window opens, labeled "Post Reply," where you will find a large text box available for writing your reply. Below that text box, under "Additional Options..." you will see a grayed-out box labeled "Attach:" with a "Browse" button at the right.

Click on the "Browse" button, and a file browser of your local computer will appear. You need to navigate through that browser to find the jpeg file you wish to attach. Once you click on the file in the browser and click the "Open" button, the path to that file will appear in the previously grayed-out box. Then, when you click on the "Post" button, your file will be uploaded to the LuLa server along with whatever you wrote in the text box.

If you want to attach additional photos (up to a maximum of four in any one post), click on "(more attachments)."

This is exactly what I did on my PC to attach this photo of flowers in my yard. I hope this helps.

Eric

Eric:  I (believe) I have posted my query with JPEG attachment, per your very straight-forward instructiions, but it doesn't seem to be appearing.  Do queries with photos attached take longer to appear?  Anyway, many thanks.  Jim
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 02, 2012, 04:07:32 pm
Jim, preview does not work with attached photos (but you can still preview the text), that is probably the reason you do not see it. Just attach it as per Eric's instructions, and post.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 02, 2012, 11:44:33 pm
Yes, the "Preview" button should really be renamed the "Preview Text" button.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 03, 2012, 12:07:55 am
Gentlemen: I tried posting it twice, hitting the "Post" button each time, but nothing appeared.  My JPEG was 1,430 KB.  Is that too large to be accepted?  Much appreciate your guidance.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 03, 2012, 12:19:05 am
It is not too large, the max is 4 Mb.

Steps:

1. Choose file
2. Post

Can not be simpler, and works every time. :)

Ok, lets try visually:
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 03, 2012, 12:35:02 am
Quote from: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 03, 2012, 12:19:05 am
It is not too large, the max is 4 Mb.

Steps:

1. Choose file
2. Post

Can not be simpler, and works every time. :)

Ok, lets try visually:

It still doesn't work, and I DO understand your very simple instructions.  Maybe the path to my photo is too long.

C:\Users\Jim\Desktop\Pictures\Lightroom Backup\Pictures\2012\20120428 - MANSON\2012\2012-04-28\Manson Pano 3.jpg

I can move the photo on my hard drive to effect a shorter path, if that's the problem.  Again, thanks.  Jim
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 03, 2012, 10:00:55 am
The path length is a likely culprit, I suspect.

I have a folder called "uploads" at the top of my D-drive ("D:\uploads") where I copy things before uploading. I don't remember what prompted me to do this in the first place, but it very likely had to do with avoiding long pathnames.

Good luck!

Eric
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 03, 2012, 10:12:20 am
Nope, shortening path and name still don't work.  I do get a designation though after trying to send that reads (in part): "=0;board=12x"  I'm at a loss, and probably you are, too.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 03, 2012, 11:10:07 am
The only thing I can think of at this point is to try to start from scratch: empty your browser's cache, reload the page and try again?
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Isaac on May 03, 2012, 12:41:04 pm
Seems like you're using some version of MS Windows. Maybe it would help if you said which web browser (and version) you're using; and then walk through an attempt to attach a jpg, listing all the actions you take and what changes you see after those actions.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 03, 2012, 05:57:40 pm
My operating system is Windows 7.  My preferred browser is Mozilla Firefox, but today I attempted also to attach my photo to a post, entering LLF via Windows Internet Explorer.  The attachment "box' recognizes my path with the photo, but each and every time when I hit the "Post' button, nothing ever happens.  The screen just sits there. No follow through.  No error message appears.  I am not a complete novice in computer operations (my wife is a professional programmer/analyst).  I cannot fathom what could possibly be preventing me from performing this quite simple function on the forum.  I think I'll give up (for now).   Thanks again to all.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 03, 2012, 06:06:09 pm
Quote from: JimAscher on May 03, 2012, 05:57:40 pm
... when I hit the "Post' button, nothing ever happens.  The screen just sits there. No follow through.  No error message appears...

Jim, I can confirm that the same thing occasionally happens to me. What works for me is to reload the page and start from scratch.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 03, 2012, 06:18:22 pm
By "reload page,' I assume you mean start from scratch.  That also doesn't work.  And I know the jpg photo is there, for when i click on it on the hard drive, it comes up fully on screen.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 03, 2012, 06:27:20 pm
No, by "reload the page" I mean clicking on the circular arrow sign at the end of your browser address bar. Or, if you prefer a menu approach, in Firefox you can find it under: View/Reload.

I am attaching a screen shot of a Firefox window on top of my Safari window, with arrows pointing to those circular ones.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 03, 2012, 09:59:10 pm
I switched to another (Windows 7) computer, and it still wouldn't post my query with the jpg attachment.  Following is the resulting "address" line (which doesn't appear to connect):

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?action=post2;start=0;board=12

Now, even a bigger mystery.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Isaac on May 04, 2012, 01:25:14 pm
Quote from: JimAscher on May 03, 2012, 09:59:10 pm
Following is the resulting "address" line

If I browse through the directories and Attach an image; and then click the Post button without putting any text into the comment box, the page shows this error message --

"The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
The message body was left empty."

-- with the "address" line --

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?action=post2;start=0;board=12


Perhaps scroll the page up and down, searching for an error message (or use the Firefox Find... menu item to search for the word error)
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 04, 2012, 02:14:39 pm
The following is the "error' message I receive, which really has no relevance that I can see to my circumstance (none of the reasons for failure apply):


The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Your session timed out while posting. Please try to re-submit your message.
No subject was filled in.
The message body was left empty.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 04, 2012, 02:28:53 pm
Jim, are you saying that your subject line and message body is not left empty, i.e., that you do have a text in both, and yet the error message states they are empty?

As for the other error message ("Your session timed out while posting"), it does appear quite often for me too, but quickly resolved by clicking "Post" or "Preview" once again (or, if that does not help, reloading the page).
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Isaac on May 04, 2012, 02:50:02 pm
Quote from: JimAscher on May 04, 2012, 02:14:39 pm
The following is the "error' message I receive
Good - now that we know an error message actually is being returned we can try to identify and fix the problem.

Which do you use?

Do you click - "Logout"?
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 04, 2012, 03:23:29 pm
Quote from: Isaac on May 04, 2012, 02:50:02 pm
Good - now that we know an error message actually is being returned we can try to identify and fix the problem.

Which do you use?
  • "Minutes to stay logged in"
  • "Always stay logged in"

Do you click - "Logout"?


I assume I continue to be logged in while I am reading or posting to the site, or exit from it (not "logout).  In any case, I have most often have been attempting to post this particular query (with attachment) shortly after logging in.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Isaac on May 04, 2012, 03:50:13 pm
Quote from: JimAscher on May 04, 2012, 03:23:29 pm
I assume I continue to be logged in...

With these login settings you'll automatically be logged out after 60 minutes --

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?action=login (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?action=login)


Let's try this:
then
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 04, 2012, 03:58:14 pm
Test

[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 04, 2012, 04:08:57 pm
I tried and now I'm locked into this page:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=66622.20
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: Isaac on May 04, 2012, 04:18:01 pm
That's interesting!

After I click on the page 2 link for this discussion, when I'm logged-in, a blank page is shown.

After I click on the page 2 link for this discussion, when not logged-in, I see the posted comments.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 04, 2012, 04:26:32 pm
Same thing happens to me.  I might have screwed up the system.  hope not.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: mguertin on May 04, 2012, 04:31:58 pm
I removed the file attachment that was breaking things.  It was labelled as a jpg file (by the .jpg extension), but it seems that it was not a valid jpg file (maybe a PSD file?).  Everyone should be able to see this page 2 again now.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: mguertin on May 04, 2012, 04:33:40 pm
Also worth noting the reason that it worked when not logged in is that guests don't get to see attached files, only logged-in users get to see them, so it wasn't triggering the error until it tried to process the jpg that was not a jpg.
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: JimAscher on May 04, 2012, 04:35:44 pm
Whew!  Many thanks.  Would anyone volunteer to have me send them my initial photo by email so they can also experiment with attaching it?  I would send it by private message, but it doesn't seem I can attach it to a private message.  Thanks, Jim
Title: Re: Confusion Over Inserting Photo in Thread
Post by: mguertin on May 04, 2012, 04:39:29 pm
I'll PM you my email, I can test it for you.  it looks to be a very large file from what I saw when I removed it ...
Title: Inserting a link to an image elsewhere
Post by: BJL on May 14, 2012, 12:12:01 pm
A related question: is it possible to use something like the HTML tag "img", to display within a post an image located elsewhere, rather than uploading the image file to LL? I have tried both inserting HTML code like
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Elvis-Costello-This-Years-Model.jpg">
and fiddling with the "Insert Image" button and its "img in square brackets" markup,
but it fails for me.

P. S. Thanks Mark: It seems to be access limitations of the site I am linking to: that BBCode method from "Insert Image" failed with the Wikipedia image, just giving a missing image question mark:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Elvis-Costello-This-Years-Model.jpg")
but this one works:
(http://1.s.img-dpreview.com/files/news/7361553203/520/Leica-M-Monochrom_3qtr.jpg)
Title: Re: Inserting a link to an image elsewhere
Post by: mguertin on May 14, 2012, 12:16:18 pm
Quote from: BJL on May 14, 2012, 12:12:01 pm
A related question: is it possible to use something like the HTML tag "img", to display within a post an image located elsewhere, rather than uploading the image file to LL? I have tried inserting HTML code like
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Elvis-Costello-This-Years-Model.jpg">
but it fails for me.

You can't use the HTML img tag, but there's a BBCode tag for IMG that works in a similar manner and allows you to show it inline, like this:

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Elvis-Costello-This-Years-Model.jpg[/img]

You can get that by pressing the "insert image" button in the toolbar (second row down, first icon on the left) and then pasting in the URL between the img tags.
Title: Re: Inserting a link to an image elsewhere
Post by: mguertin on May 14, 2012, 07:10:45 pm
Quote from: BJL on May 14, 2012, 12:12:01 pm
P. S. Thanks Mark: It seems to be access limitations of the site I am linking to: that BBCode method from "Insert Image" failed with the Wikipedia image, just giving a missing image question mark:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Elvis-Costello-This-Years-Model.jpg")
but this one works:

There's an extra quote in what you pasted for that image in your test :)

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Elvis-Costello-This-Years-Model.jpg"[/img]

It works if you remove the extraneous quote.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Elvis-Costello-This-Years-Model.jpg)
Title: Confusion Over Inserting (link to a) Photo in Thread
Post by: BJL on May 14, 2012, 08:56:03 pm
OK, thanks again Mark: I finally overcame my typing problems! And all just for this post:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=67023.msg529951#msg529951