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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: shaunw on April 05, 2012, 12:05:06 pm

Title: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: shaunw on April 05, 2012, 12:05:06 pm
Another from my Northumberland visit...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7240/6885750580_258b91b541_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skwalby/6885750580/)
Sunrise Holy Island (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skwalby/6885750580/) by Shaunwalby Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/skwalby/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: churly on April 05, 2012, 12:25:07 pm
Shaun - this is the shot I was talking about in my reponse to you last post.  To me this a really compelling composition.
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: John R Smith on April 05, 2012, 03:23:29 pm
It's terrific.

Theatrical, really. It's as if you had orchestrated the whole thing to be just so, at that moment in time. And to have the technique to pull it off too - that takes some doing. My own photography is much more opportunistic - I see things and grab at them, usually messily - but this is calculated, determined, and very well conceived.

However (and there is always a but, isn't there?) I am not really sure that I like it. It seems so produced, so perfect, that I can't quite believe in it. It doesn't seem to be a photograph as I understand it. Which is not to detract from your achievement, and is merely a matter of taste. Perhaps because I like my photography to be just a little more raggy at the edges . . .

Nice one, though.

John
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: shaunw on April 05, 2012, 03:28:51 pm
Shaun - this is the shot I was talking about in my reponse to you last post.  To me this a really compelling composition.

Thanks Churly
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: shaunw on April 05, 2012, 03:44:28 pm
It's terrific.

Theatrical, really. It's as if you had orchestrated the whole thing to be just so, at that moment in time. And to have the technique to pull it off too - that takes some doing. My own photography is much more opportunistic - I see things and grab at them, usually messily - but this is calculated, determined, and very well conceived.

However (and there is always a but, isn't there?) I am not really sure that I like it. It seems so produced, so perfect, that I can't quite believe in it. It doesn't seem to be a photograph as I understand it. Which is not to detract from your achievement, and is merely a matter of taste. Perhaps because I like my photography to be just a little more raggy at the edges . . .

Nice one, though.

John

Thanks John...horses for courses mate, one mans perfect is another mans adequate.....it is the great lasting beauty of the arts in general....we get to please ourselves (or we should be) and as such you cannot please all the people all the time.
The reality of the image is this...day one was a write off dense sea fog all day didnt shoot a frame. Day two started dense fog again, but thankfully we could see this time it was starting to thin out...i knew the dawn position was favourable for the castle facing west against the eastern dawn and i was there in time....thats as planned as it was, this image is one of several taken from this approximate position...this is the second ive posted from this trip.

Thanks for your thoughts John they are appreciated
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: rambler44 on April 05, 2012, 08:15:17 pm
The sharp foreground, the wall, fence and beach line each draws our eye right back to the castle, shrouded in the mysterious fog.  This photo works for me.  I have been noticing that browns usually stand out better than brighter, near white subjects even in flat light.
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: Justan on April 06, 2012, 12:20:43 am
Gorgeous.

I almost expect to see a dragon skulking somewhere on the flanks of the castle.
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: Tony Jay on April 06, 2012, 02:36:36 am
Cracking image!

Kind Regards

Tony Jay
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: PhotoEcosse on April 06, 2012, 09:06:56 am
One of the best compositions of Lindisfarne Castle that I have seen.

Well done.
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: agrokid on April 06, 2012, 10:26:58 am
It's a great photograph. No doubt about that. But my eye doesn't know where to look. OK, maybe the rings lead you towards the castle, but I'm not sure. Personally, I'd drop the bottom half of the shot. That puts the castle at the top left third of the pic. But then, I'm old, and probably old fashioned. Nevertheless, I wish I'd taken it. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: luxborealis on April 07, 2012, 06:55:13 pm
You know what I'm going to say... same as previous Lindesfarne image - I find the modern angularity of the fence so in contrast to the magic of the rest of the scene, that I would remove it (not with a chain saw, but with adept healing/cloning).

For those who haven't been there and for many who have, it would make no difference what so ever. Very few will say, "Oiy - you cheater, you painted out the fence!" and if they do, remember, painters have used artistic license forever!! I know, just because we can, should we? If we are producing art, then yes, if we are producing snapshots, than no.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth (and coming from Canada, that's something seeing as we are getting rid of our pennies!!)
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: shaunw on April 08, 2012, 03:05:32 am
rambler44 Justan, Tony Jay, PhotoEcosse, argokid & Luborealis...cheers guys; some positve aspect confirmed, some interesting thoughts and opinions and then fence in or out?....this may help.

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x434/belaybob1/20120325-_MG_1436-EditMASTERCOLOURWEBSHARPDESATdarkerskyFENCELESS.jpg)
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 08, 2012, 09:02:04 am
"Oiy - you cheater, you painted out the fence!"

Actually, not having been there, I will have to agree that Terry's suggestion works. I don't miss the fence, and it now seems a bit of a distraction in the first version.

Stunning image, and now even better, IMHO.

Eric
Title: Re: Sunrise Holy Island
Post by: shaunw on April 08, 2012, 02:00:39 pm
"Oiy - you cheater, you painted out the fence!"

Actually, not having been there, I will have to agree that Terry's suggestion works. I don't miss the fence, and it now seems a bit of a distraction in the first version.

Stunning image, and now even better, IMHO.

Eric

lol...Thanks Eric yer i think it a cleaner image without the fence...ill have to have UK and over seas edits...lol

Shaun