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Site & Board Matters => Luminous Landscape Video => Topic started by: Christopher Sanderson on July 11, 2011, 01:57:40 pm
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Here is a teaser video (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/camera_to_print__screen___introduction.shtml) - actually the complete Introduction - of our latest Tutorial Camera to Print & Screen (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/tutorials/camera_to_print_and_screen.shtml)
Once again, the tutorial will be published incrementally as I finish the editing of each major segment.
The first segments on setting up a new printer and Image Quality will be available on [EDIT]: August 8th.
All owners of the Fine Art Printing Tutorial From Camera To Print (2008) now have available to them a 15% off coupon for Camera to Print & Screen that has been placed in the final file of the original tutorial in the file named CameraToPrint_Extras_2.zip
PS You'll get to see a new shirt or two...
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Hi Chris
I'm unable to download the file as the system says that the download link expired on 07/28/2008 (later downloads, like Lightroom 2, do not appear to have an expiry date for the download).
Any chance of owners of the original Camera to Print downloads having the download expiry reset?
Andy
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Yep - no problem.
I have reset all the files via the shopping cart software. Let's see if it's smart enough to apply that update to your order (and everyone else's ???)
Would you log out of the Store and try again?
Chris
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BTW the URLs in the C2PS Discount coupon PDF file will become 'live' on or before August 1st.
Today they just return a 404 Error page since nothing is published yet
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Awesome....I have the first one and am looking forward to the second one.
Todd in Chicago
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Hi Chris
Thanks for trying to reset the download expiry dates, but I'm afraid that didn't work for me.
I've logged out, deleted all relevant cookies and cleared my browser cache, but all to no avail; the download link expiry dates are still set to 2008, and therefore no longer valid.
I'll leave this in your capable hands.
Regards,
Andy
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Morning Chris,
I need to add that I also noticed there is no discount coupon.
It just comes up and states download (CameraToPrint_Extras_2.zip) has expired.
Stu
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I have reset Andy & Stuart's orders. Looks like we'll have to do each old order manually, so if others are interested in the C2PS discount coupon, give us a head start on August 1st's publication date. Send an email titled 'C2PS Coupon' to customerservice AT luminous-landscape.com
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I have reset Andy & Stuart's orders. Looks like we'll have to do each old order manually, so if others are interested in the C2PS discount coupon, give us a head start on August 1st's publication date. Send an email titled 'C2PS Coupon' to customerservice AT luminous-landscape.com
Chris,
Thanks! Just checked and was able to get the discount coupon.
Now just waiting for the release of the new "Camera to Print".
Stu
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Chris,
Same here, all working well now and discount coupon PDF downloaded. I'm sorry that's it's more work for you though.
Andy
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I was reminded this morning that I am on a family holiday August 1st - Computer time verboten!! ;D
So, begging your collective patience (something I do regularly...) I will delay the introduction of Camera to Print & Screen until Monday, August 8th.
Chris
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All Camera To Print orders have been reset to make the final file: CameraToPrint_Extras_2.zip available for download.
This .zip file contains a PDF with the C2PS discount coupon.
Please let me know here if you find CameraToPrint_Extras_2.zip still unavailable.
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I was interested in purchasing "From Camera to Print & Screen", but concerned that my download speed doesn't usually exceed 3.6mbps, althought meant to be 6 (don't live in urban area) Where I live, changing ISP not likely to improve things and difficult for contractual reasons anyway. If I purchase and find download impossible, can I get a refund?
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"Customer satisfaction is guaranteed and refunds cheerfully made!" - well almost cheerfully ;D
The file sizes for the first 5 downloads which are in place, are not huge (nothing like downloading CS5.5 which took me three days).
Zip file sizes in the 170 to 250 MB range - not terribly arduous.
The total size of all 35 to 40 zip files will be up there tho'!
But I don't expect to have a fully completed product until well into late 2011, so there will be lots of time for the downloads.
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Chris, perhaps I'm blind and I missed any statement, but I'm wondering what will be the price for the complete package when buying directly after the first package will be available ?
Thanks in advance
Robert
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Looking forward to it.
I want to mention, I was puzzled when I went to the store and couldn't find C2P in my account....until I clicked "show all orders"...got the discount pdf, no problem.
Thanks.
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...I'm wondering what will be the price for the complete package when buying directly after the first package will be available...
The price will be $49.95 but with various discounts available:
10% off while incomplete - plus
15% off for From Camera To Print owners.
So for those customers, the price will be just under $40
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Thanks Chris,
this sounds very good !
Let's wait until 8th of August to receive the first part.
Btw, are you really going to have family holidays without camera and notebook ?
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...Btw, are you really going to have family holidays without camera and notebook ?
with camera and notebook but very little Internet time.
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Chris,
Have a great vacation. Hopefully, time for a cigar or two.
I look forward to the series when you release it.
Jed
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Good hols and am back at the 'puter ;D
Camera To Print & Screen (http://store.luminous-landscape.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=26&products_id=281) is now posted in the Store.
I was so impressed by the depth & breadth of practical advice that Michael & Jeff give in the Image Quality sections of the new Tutorial that I have bundled those videos alone as a separate product named Luminous Landscape Guide to Image Quality (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/tutorials/guide_to_image_quality.shtml).
So for those less interested in printing but for anyone who presses a shutter release, I believe this hour and 45 minutes is invaluable.
It will also allow a purchaser the equivalent discount on the purchase of the full C2PS tutorial (less $2.00 for CC fees etc.) should they decide to get that later.
Chris
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I should emphasize that the videos contained in the Lu-La Guide to Image Quality are exactly the same as the files 3 to 11 of Camera to Print & Screen.
Do NOT buy both or I have to refund you! ::)
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Good hols and am back at the 'puter ;D
Camera To Print & Screen (http://store.luminous-landscape.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=26&products_id=281) is now posted in the Store.
I was so impressed by the depth & breadth of practical advice that Michael & Jeff give in the Image Quality sections of the new Tutorial that I have bundled those videos alone as a separate product named Luminous Landscape Guide to Image Quality (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/tutorials/guide_to_image_quality.shtml).
So for those less interested in printing but for anyone who presses a shutter release, I believe this hour and 45 minutes is invaluable.
It will also allow a purchaser the equivalent discount on the purchase of the full C2PS tutorial (less $2.00 for CC fees etc.) should they decide to get that later.
Chris
Chris,
Just to let you know I was able place my order this morning and was able to use the discount code for being a pervious owner of the first Camera to Print.
Also should add that the download went smoothly with the first 5 videos. How many hours will this be when completed?
Best,
Stu
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Thanks for letting me know.
Post any glitches or suggestions here and if there are any problems, please send an email to customerservice AT luminous-landscape.com.
I'll be watching activity closely for the next couple of days.
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Thanks for letting me know.
Post any glitches or suggestions here and if there are any problems, please send an email to customerservice AT luminous-landscape.com.
I'll be watching activity closely for the next couple of days.
Watched a couple of the videos and no problems. In fact I have moved the videos to iTunes and now via Apple TV I am able to view on my 40" LED Sharp TV.
The video output to the TV looks great. Great job Chris.
Stu
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I am uncertain of the final length but somewhere between six and eight hours I expect...
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The downloads went smooth as always Chris. New venue & set looks good (cluttered like my office, makes me feel at home) and the sound is excellent. They even work on a Windows computer :o
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Yesterday, I downloaded the first clips just after they appeared on the store and, as with Stu & W.T. Jones wrote above, everything went smoothly (download and coupon for previous owners).
No problem watching the videos on a Mac and an iPad.
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Great videos, again! Downloads are not lightning fast, but still fast enough.
The only thing that had me worried is that Jeff Schewe is wearing the same shirt after the profile print has dried for 12 hours in the 'New Printer' video, yuch ;D
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There has been a great response to both tutorials (with many still buying both ??? Don't!!)
Glad to hear the server is holding up - it's smokin'
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There has been a great response to both tutorials (with many still buying both ??? Don't!!)
Glad to hear the server is holding up - it's smokin'
Hi Chris,
I had thought you had a new video besides the CTP2 out until I read it twice. Then I figured out it was just parts of the main CTP2.
By the way I have viewed all of the first 11 videos and enjoyed them. Can't wait for more to be posted. Really looks great on my 40" Sharp LED TV.
Best,
Stu
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I should emphasize that the videos contained in the Lu-La Guide to Image Quality are exactly the same as the files 3 to 11 of Camera to Print & Screen.
Do NOT buy both or I have to refund you! ::)
This right here says a lot about the integrity of Folks who run LuLa. Others in the business world might not be so willing to, shall we say, mention anything.
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Hi Chris,
Same as other people, I downloaded everything yesterday night (in Barcelona) without problem, I already watched the first 5 videos on a flight in my macbook using Quicktime without problem.
Many thanks for everything...
David
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Everything was smooth sailing this far, the coupon worked, downloading went quite good even to Finland and the videos were totally worth buying.
There is however something "wrong" with the "Beyond Defaults" video. I only noticed this because I was watching the other videos with Windows Media Player (since I have a codec pack installed) and the other were just fine. This one was giving me a white screen with sound still intact until about the half way through the video where the picture came on as well.
With KMPlayer everything was ok from the beginning (I'd think VLC will also show it right).
Just a heads up and nothing serious since it works on another player.
When is the next batch of videos due btw.?
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Everything was smooth sailing this far, the coupon worked, downloading went quite good even to Finland and the videos were totally worth buying.
There is however something "wrong" with the "Beyond Defaults" video. I only noticed this because I was watching the other videos with Windows Media Player (since I have a codec pack installed) and the other were just fine. This one was giving me a white screen with sound still intact until about the half way through the video where the picture came on as well.
With KMPlayer everything was ok from the beginning (I'd think VLC will also show it right).
Just a heads up and nothing serious since it works on another player.
When is the next batch of videos due btw.?
The Beyond defaults video plays fine for me, but I did notice when I opened the folder( depending on which program I set as default) there is either a white quick time Icon or a Orange VLC cone instead of a preview image like the remaining vids. I did not think much of it until you mentioned you had a problem.
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When is the next batch of videos due btw.?
I will likely have additional files posted in about 2 weeks. I will post an announcement here as well as What's New.
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I also have a problem with Video 10, Beyond Defaults
Windows Media Player played all the others just fine but displays an error with the codec for this one.
Great series so far. I'm looking forward to the next batch.
Wayne
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I also have a problem with Video 10, Beyond Defaults
Windows Media Player played all the others just fine but displays an error with the codec for this one.
Hmmm strange since AFAIK it is exactly the same. Actually WMP is generally sub-optimal for MOV files and VLC Player is a much better bet.
I'll repost the file tomorrow and see if that helps
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No issues with any of the files here playing using Quicktime under Snow Leopard.
I watched the first series last night and found them very enjoyable and entertaining (thanks for FFWDing the paper profiling.. ;D ) I found the comparisons and discussions between the high rez MFDB and lower rez cameras particularly interesting. Great stuff.
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Is there any way to watch these on an iphone/ipad?
Hi there
Check out: http://luminous-landscape.com/videos/Dwnld_Video-faq.shtml#HD
You should get all your questions answered there.
Hope this helps.
Stu
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Is there any way to watch these on an iphone/ipad?
Add the QT .mov files into iTunes and then select them as videos to sync with the iPad (I wouldn't suggest iPhone cause of the size/rez).
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I will likely have additional files posted in about 2 weeks. I will post an announcement here as well as What's New.
Ok, thanks for the info Chris, I'll be waiting here eagerly :)
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Hi Chris,
The discount system does indeed work, and I was able to go back and retrieve the discount coupon for the new Print tutorial. However, I only worked out what to do by searching through this thread. Should there not be a button on the store page for the tutorial that gives the step-by-step, i.e. log in to your account, locate your original receipt for the first Print tutorial, download the extras, copy the discount coupon number, etc.?
In any case, thanks to all for all the hard work; I'm looking forward to these new tutorials immensely.
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All Camera To Print orders have been reset to make the final file: CameraToPrint_Extras_2.zip available for download.
This .zip file contains a PDF with the C2PS discount coupon.
Please let me know here if you find CameraToPrint_Extras_2.zip still unavailable.
Chris,
I'm sorry to be missing something. I bought the 2008 Camera to Print, but the last file had no code in it. To download it again I appear to have to buy it again. That can't be what you meant. I no longer have the computer I used in 2008 to download the purchase at that time, so there's no cookies or whatever on this computer to identify me as a purchaser then. Neither do I have any proof of purchase other than my name, if you keep records that way. Can I get the discount and, if I can, how would I go about it?
Thanks,
Mike Worley
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Send an email to customerservice AT luminous-landscape.com. You will be sent the appropriate discount code.
In fact, some very early purchases of From Camera to Print were made under a different database/shopping cart system and the switch-over that happened in 2008 carried the orders but not the download file information. For those orders, there is no final zip file to download. We simply email the coupon.
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"Is there any way to watch these on an iphone/ipad?"
Import the movie files into the iTunes library and then over to the ipad. I haven't tried shifting them to my iPhone but they work on the iPad.
Dave S
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"Is there any way to watch these on an iphone/ipad?"
Import the movie files into the iTunes library and then over to the ipad. I haven't tried shifting them to my iPhone but they work on the iPad.
Dave S
Or use a file tranfer app and stream them directly to ipad from computer. Works great!
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Just finished watching all the downloads available thus far. Excellent presentation by Jeff and Michael.
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There is however something "wrong" with the "Beyond Defaults" video. I only noticed this because I was watching the other videos with Windows Media Player (since I have a codec pack installed) and the other were just fine. This one was giving me a white screen with sound still intact until about the half way through the video where the picture came on as well.
I also have a problem with Video 10, Beyond Defaults
The problem file Beyond Defaults has been re-encoded and re-posted in zip file 5 of C2PS.
I would be grateful if anyone who had problems with it, would let me know if the new file works any better.
Chris
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The problem file Beyond Defaults has been re-encoded and re-posted in zip file 5 of C2PS.
I would be grateful if anyone who had problems with it, would let me know if the new file works any better.
Chris
Hi Chris,
I just went back a reviewed "Beyond Defaults" again and had no problem. For your information I am on a MacBook Pro 2.66 (June 2009) and viewed it via iTunes. Also I am using the original download before you did this re-encoding.
Best,
Stu
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I think the problem was exclusive to users under Windows and WMP. There are some accented characters in the Chapter Markers that I am suspicious of: Cañada del Virgén
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I couldn't open File 5 at all, as originally posted. Now I can open it in Quick Time, but not in WMP, so it does seem to be a Windows problem.
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Once again, Michael, Jeff and Chris, a great product! All vids worked great for me. I streamed from desktop to ipad2 using filebrowser. Now that Im through all the great videos I want more! When will the rest be up??
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Once again, Michael, Jeff and Chris, a great product! All vids worked great for me. I streamed from desktop to ipad2 using filebrowser. Now that Im through all the great videos I want more! When will the rest be up??
Not absolutely certain since I am trying to cover Colour Management which Michael & Jeff go into at length and which is taking considerable time to put together. Likely I will have some files up by next weekend.
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I have put the video files into iTunes and synced with my iPad and the videos are too wide for the iPad screen. The iPad lists the dimensions as 1248x702.
Any ideas what I have done wrong?
Thanks
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I have put the video files into iTunes and synced with my iPad and the videos are too wide for the iPad screen. The iPad lists the dimensions as 1248x702.
Any ideas what I have done wrong?
Thanks
Darrill
I also have setup the videos to play via my iPad 2. Had the same problem with being to wide. The solution was when I clicked on the Icon in the top right corner the screen resized to fit the correctly. This Icon only seems to show up is when you hold the iPad horizontally. The Icon looks like an up and down arrow. You may have to tap the screen for it to show up.
Stu
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Thanks Stu. Worked a treat.
Best regards, Darrill
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Chris,
Just wanted to report your next group of videos (floders 6-7, videos 12-15) downloaded and are running with no problem. For your infromation the videos where doanloaded to a Mac BookPro 2.66 (June 2009).
Best
Stu
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Thanks for letting me know - it's always good to get some feedback :D
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Thanks for letting me know - it's always good to get some feedback :D
Usually, people write when something is not going as expected...
;)
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All movies are playing fine in VLC Player except that Chapter 15 shows up as C2PS_ 12-Colour Management: Printing a Profile Target in CS5 in the media player playlist. Is there a way to rename it to C2PS_15?
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Wooops! My bad - sorry about that.
It is simple to change in QuickTime Pro: (Command-J / Show Movie Properties; and then edit & Save the Title attribute. BTW, Make sure the play head is parked at the very beginning of the movie). However I am uncertain how to do that edit in any other program or under Windows.
I will replace the file within 24 hours.
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The file 'c2ps-07.zip' is now replaced.
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Hi Chris,
amy information when the next parts will be available ? I can't wait to see how the story ends. Will Jeff have enough shirts for the whole story ? Will Michael wear a second pullover ? It is all so exciting !
Best wishes
Robert
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It will be two or three weeks until the next instalment. I am away this week shooting in the Palouse but back to the edit next week.
There is much more to come on Colour Management and then lots and lots more after that. Honestly, I would say the full edit will take me through November!
Chris
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Hi Chris,
any new file to be expected this weekend ?
Best wishes
Robert
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Your timing is exquisite! Yes, I am uploading more files on Colour Management as I write this and they should appear in your product download page sometime in the next 36 hours. I will post when final in the locked pinned thread above.
Chris
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Today's files are now available. See the thread above.
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Today's files are now available. See the thread above.
Hi Chris,
Just wanted to inform you this last group of videos folders 8-11 (Videos 16-22) down loaded (MacBook Pro 2.66 June 2009) and installed with no problems.
Now it is time to view them.
Best,
Stu
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Your timing is exquisite! Yes, I am uploading more files on Colour Management as I write this and they should appear in your product download page sometime in the next 36 hours. I will post when final in the locked pinned thread above.
Chris
Thanks for your good words - and surely for the new parts of the show.
They all run great on both Windows 7 64bit and my LaCie LaCienma HD with a connected 42" TV set.
Especially Jeff's shirts look very great on that TV set !
Best wishes
Robert
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...Especially Jeff's shirts look very great on that TV set !
Ahh yes - Jeff's sartorial splendour deserves no less!
And talking of which, there is an unofficial, prize yet-to-be-decided competition to correctly identify the number of shirts that Jeff wears throughout the tutorial.
And we are only about 40% of the way through the videos to date, so hold your fire.
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Minor note: I have corrected some errors in v.3 of the Table of Contents (http://media.luminous-landscape.com/video/tutorials/c2ps/C2PS-ToC_03.pdf)
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And talking of which, there is an unofficial, prize yet-to-be-decided competition to correctly identify the number of shirts that Jeff wears throughout the tutorial.
The prize should be that ultra cool Robby the Robot toy!
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On the C2PS_03-iamge quality: Basics & Megapixels, Michael is using a Iphone as a display monitor for his medium format camera. I am intrigue - Michael can you provide me info on the 3rd party offering this apps/solution.
THX!!!!
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It's simply a viewfinder App (Viewfinder Pro) which lets the iPhone serve as a sort of electronic viewfinder matching the focal length of the lens used. There's no data connection to the back.
Michael
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It's simply a viewfinder App (Viewfinder Pro) which lets the iPhone serve as a sort of electronic viewfinder matching the focal length of the lens used. There's no data connection to the back.
Michael
Hello,
does than mean that the camera talks to your Apple book and and the Applebook talks to your iPhone ?
Best wishes
Robert
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No, nothing talks to anything. It's just a means of framing the shot if your not using a back with Live View.
Michael
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No, nothing talks to anything. It's just a means of framing the shot if your not using a back with Live View.
Michael
Thanks - now I think I've understood :
It uses the camery of the iPhone to give you a view of the focal length.
A modern way to watch through an empty frame of a slide.
Yours
Robert
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Your timing is exquisite! ...
I hope that my timing doesn't suffer when I assume that there will be anotherpackage of the vide-show this weekend ?
Best wishes
Robert
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A bit late I am afraid but the last video on Colour Management - a half hour on Soft Proofing is now available
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Kudos to Jeff for a very nice presentation of soft proofing. Everything was clear and this was a particularly good image to demonstrate why SP is necessary. Well done.
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Kudos to Jeff for a very nice presentation of soft proofing. Everything was clear and this was a particularly good image to demonstrate why SP is necessary. Well done.
Thanks for the kind words...here's hoping Lightroom 4 will also have soft proofing (it better or heads will roll!!!)
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The 'Route 66' shirt Jeff wears in this segment is spectacular. Where are these shirts made/sold?
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The 'Route 66' shirt Jeff wears in this segment is spectacular. Where are these shirts made/sold?
Thanks...the Route 66 is, I think, from Vegas (a Big & Tall store in one of the shopping areas). Most of the Hawaiian shirts are by Tommie Bahama.
I tend to collect them as wardrobe (and I deduct them as such). I rarely if ever wear them around the studio. Just black Tee shirts :~)
Don't forget to keep a running count of how many shirts I wear...
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The 'Route 66' shirt Jeff wears in this segment is spectacular. Where are these shirts made/sold?
Soon to be available in all sizes (from 5X to 11X) at the LuLa Store?
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Only by Download. We do not ship any physical shirts, just shirty physiques.
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Only by Download. We do not ship any physical shirts, just shirty physiques.
So isn't it time for Michael to have a makeover? Or is he just going to let Jeff go on upstaging him?
I bet he doesn't even have a motorcycle yet.
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So isn't it time for Michael to have a makeover?
Well...Chris and I have tried ya know? Problem is, Mike is kinda set in his ways and has an incredibly drab wardrobe but hey, that's Mike's nature. Course he gives me crap about jazzing up my images so I guess his tastes really do fall under the conservative Canadian nature he exhibits. It's kinda like the story about the scorpion asking a frog for a ride across the river...the scorpion ends up stinging the frog and when the frog said why did you sting me, now we'll both die, the scorpion said, well, it's my "nature".
And no, I seriously doubt Michael's wife would stand for him riding a bike...also not sure I would want to see him riding a bike... I've spent plenty of time with Mike driving a car and the number of times he's almost driven off the road while looking at EVERYTHING but the road in search of a shot is enough for me to take his keys away...know what I mean?
At some point in some future video, I promise to make him wear a interesting Hawaiian shirt while I wear my normal "basic black". Even if I have to wrestle him to the ground to put it on him...which would be easy since he's really a small guy (well compared to me).
:~)
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All I can say is you guys are having too much fun filming this stuff! ;D
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I think this response is the one most of us need. Can someone post this explanation at the beginning of the forum so we don't need to read well into the journal to find out solution or post it as the discount link.
Thanks
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Hmmmm....
should you have read this far looking for hard information, try the regular Description page on the C2PS Tutorial (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/tutorials/camera_to_print_and_screen.shtml).
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Hmmmm....
should you have read this far looking for hard information, try the regular Description page on the C2PS Tutorial (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/tutorials/camera_to_print_and_screen.shtml).
Chris,
I've looked and looked but I can't find the two most essential topics on the Table of Contents:
1. Color Management of Hawaiian Shirts -- by Jeff schewe, and
2. Color Management of Shirts: A Dissenting View -- by Michael Reichmann.
:o
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Look for the coy boy behind the profile target in Guide to Colour Management...
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I have now watched all 23 videos. Great stuff, have to say. There is not however much talk about sharpening. Am I missing something or what?
/fox
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I have now watched all 23 videos. Great stuff, have to say. There is not however much talk about sharpening. Am I missing something or what?
/fox
I guess that you need to be a bit more patient!
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I have now watched all 23 videos. Great stuff, have to say. There is not however much talk about sharpening. Am I missing something or what?
You're missing the entire section on image optimizing...which has yet been released.
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Any new videos coming this Sunday maybe?
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No, it will be toward the end of the month for new material.
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No, it will be toward the end of the month for new material.
Oh, that long ?
:o
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Yep - I have been on hiatus from C2PS for a couple of weeks - back at it now until the finish!
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Thanks for the answer anyway Chris, saves my F5 - button ;)
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Is there perhaps a rollout plan for the rest of the videos?
Any idea when it will be complete?
Thanks,
Roy
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The plan is as outlined on the product page (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/tutorials/camera_to_print_and_screen.shtml) to publish in segments through the last half of 2011.
I'm working on it!
Part of the reason for the wait is that I try and release in coherent segments - some longer than others and most of which were not shot in that fashion - the editing does take some time.
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Not that Jeff and Michael are incoherent but some gentle massaging with the razor blade does help ::)
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Chris,
I hope your keeper is delivering regular meals to your cell while you finish the editing. ;)
Eric
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If memory served, we once let him out of the editing cell for a few hours. But only once.
Seriously though... people have little idea of how time consuming video editing can be. Chris showed me the other day a 90 second video of his that was distilled down from 16 hours of footage. It took two weeks to edit.
Michael
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I do thoroughly appreciate what you and Jeff and Chris have to do to provide us with these wonderful videos.
The mountain of time and expertise it takes to edit the stuff is one reason I am happy to stick with my old-fashioned way of shooting just one frame at a time.
Eric
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Hi,
I mostly buy the videos for the entertainment value...
But I'd say that they should add some of the old stuff as extras:
- The interview with Ray Maxwell
- Bill Atkinson explaining color management
Best regards
Erik
I do thoroughly appreciate what you and Jeff and Chris have to do to provide us with these wonderful videos.
The mountain of time and expertise it takes to edit the stuff is one reason I am happy to stick with my old-fashioned way of shooting just one frame at a time.
Eric
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But I'd say that they should add some of the old stuff as extras:
- The interview with Ray Maxwell
- Bill Atkinson explaining color management
...which remain available for a few $
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Thanks very much Chris, Jeff and Michael. Really have enjoyed watching the videos and can't wait for the rest.
I have done some video editing and know how long and tedious it can be. Kind of like woodworking, you can spend more than 4 times the amount sanding the project than you did building to be ready to apply the finish on it.
Andrew
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Kind of like woodworking, you can spend more than 4 times the amount sanding the project than you did building to be ready to apply the finish on it.
Wow, you work fast...for me it was always the finish that took forever!
Thanks for the kind words....
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Hi,
Yes I happen to own those. But I don't know if I can find the DVD.
But really, I'd say that Bill's enthusiastic explanation... So, when you say 70 percent the first question I ask is 70% of what! What red? This one or this one? He is quite cool. I really think you could include it as an extra.
Best regards
Erik
...which remain available for a few $
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Jeff just had a look at the newly posted work environment segment. That is quite a layout you have there. The shear number of rugged drives you have stacked up in neat rows is amazing. Probably the only thing we have in common is I store mine under the monitors too! I like your back up rig. Do you also have an offsite storage array as well? Or just swap drives?
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Chris, Michael & Jeff
I just finished watching the latest video that showed Jeff's work station. Jeff that is one cool setup. One question, are all of those LaCie portable drives on your desk full?
Great job on the videos. Looking forward to the completion of all the rest.
Best,
Stu
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One question, are all of those LaCie portable drives on your desk full?
Not that I'm aware of...it's really the result of an accumulation of drives of various sizes; two 1TB, four 500GB and four 150GB drives. I really only use those drives for digital capture on location. Currently it's the pair of 1TB drives that I pack for location.
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My wife passed by, saw me watching the latest segment, and said "Oh, the cool guys." Maybe Michael and Jeff should include 8X10 autographed glossies in the next download. And someone could nominate Chris as Best Director for the Academy Awards.
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My wife passed by, saw me watching the latest segment, and said "Oh, the cool guys." Maybe Michael and Jeff should include 8X10 autographed glossies in the next download.
Puhleeze do NOT encourage them.
And someone could nominate Chris as Best Director for the Academy Awards.
Ahhh, a good editor can make a passable Director look really good :P
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Well, as of today, there are now 33 videos available in the C2PS tutorial giving around six hours of viewing.
There are around 20 more videos to go! Some of them are quite long at 30+ minutes
I guess that means I will still be working on Jeff & Michael's Magnum Opus in early 2012... ::)
La Comédie Profane perhaps?
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Well, as of today, there are now 33 videos available in the C2PS tutorial giving around six hours of viewing.
Hi Chris ,
many thanks for the videos, but as I count correctly, there are 32 and not 33.
I guess that means I will still be working on Jeff & Michael's Magnum Opus in early 2012... ::)
La Comédie Profane perhaps?
Does that really meanthat there will be no more new videos in 2011 ?
That would lacerate my heart !
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The 'forgotten' video 8A on Lens Align is the 'missing' one.
There will be a lot more C2PS video in 2011 - but there is enough yet to be edited, that I may not get to finish it all in 2011 as previously stated.
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The 'forgotten' video 8A on Lens Align is the 'missing' one.
Oh, I think I'm getting old ! Thanks for the hint - you're absolutely right. I forgot to count 8a.
There will be a lot more C2PS video in 2011 - but there is enough yet to be edited, that I may not get to finish it all in 2011 as previously stated.
Great - this gives us hope for the rest of 2011 ;D
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Many thanks to Chris, Michael and Jeff for taking the time to share their experience and wisdom with us and all the work that goes into producing these tutorials.
Chris, I hope they let you out the cage to enjoy some of the festive activities during December.
I have enjoyed watching the videos and looking forward to the rest. Picking up new ideas and techniques. Also enjoy the little pokes that they take at each. In this corner Mr. Conservative and
in this corner The Pixel Mangler.
Thanks, Andrew
Well, as of today, there are now 33 videos available in the C2PS tutorial giving around six hours of viewing.
There are around 20 more videos to go! Some of them are quite long at 30+ minutes
I guess that means I will still be working on Jeff & Michael's Magnum Opus in early 2012... ::)
La Comédie Profane perhaps?
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Many thanks to Chris, Michael and Jeff for taking the time to share their experience and wisdom with us and all the work that goes into producing these tutorials.
I have enjoyed watching the videos and looking forward to the rest. Picking up new ideas and techniques. Also enjoy the little pokes that they take at each. In this corner Mr. Conservative and
in this corner The Pixel Mangler.
I don't know Michael's politics, but merely because he does not wear wild garb does not mean he is conservative. After all, Barak Obama wears conservative suits. I would see this duo more in the image of the urbane Canadian (ala Peter Jennings) versus the Chicago brawler (you can fill in the blanks). An interesting combo.
I have found the tutorial interesting and helpful. It would be nice to have the project completed, but there is no big rush, since we need time to digest what has already been released.
Regards,
Bill
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It would be nice to have the project completed...
+1
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Chris,
Once it's completed, I think you should take a day off. Well, maybe an afternoon. Or at least an extended lunch hour before you start on the next project, the upcoming Video Journals, etc., etc. ;)
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Chris,
Once it's completed, I think you should take a day off. Well, maybe an afternoon. Or at least an extended lunch hour before you start on the next project, the upcoming Video Journals, etc., etc. ;)
On the other end, taking a day off is like loosing momentum. Chris could easily use that energy to edit Video Journals up to issue #30!
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Chris is not allowed days off until Video journals reach at least 30 ;D
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This is turning out to be a beautiful set. Schewe looks and talks like a true rishi (which is the Sanskrit word for sage).
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This is turning out to be a beautiful set. Schewe looks and talks like a true rishi (which is the Sanskrit word for sage).
I agree. But, I would like to know who to send the bill to for my time wasted trying to correct the way my monitor was displaying colors...I was sure that I had big problems because Jeff's shirt was completely lacking in color....it was BLACK!!!!! And then, I realized the truth....LOL
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One minor quibble with video 45 on papers. The blanket statement is made and echoed that you should not print on OBA containing papers if they are going to be framed behind glass or acrylic as you will lose the benefit of the OBA. This is not universally true as there are different grades of acrylic and framing glass that do transmit UV near the visible region which is the necessary wavelength to cause the OBA to fluoresce. There are both treated acrylic and glass that block 98% of all UV light where the presence of an OBA is not going to have any effect but such materials usually cost much more than the non-treated variety. We had some rather lengthy discussions of this topic over the last several years on the LuLa forums. As I noted just a quibble and again, kudos to Michael, Jeff, and Chris for putting together a wonderful set of videos.
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Thanks for the new set of videos. Will download now and enjoy watching them tomorrow.
Andrew
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Chris,
I have the new videos downloaded on my Mac Pro with no issues. This morning I spent 3 hours down loading the files to my iMac and none of them have any video only audio with a blank white screen.
What did I do wrong? Quick time player is installed.
Thanks
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It sounds as if the video card may not be up to the task of playing HD video. Try reducing the size of the playback window.
Make sure the latest version of QuickTime is installed. You could try VLC Player.
Also, if you have downloaded multiple files simultaneously, this kind of corruption may occur.
BTW - a lot easier to simply copy the files rather than re-downloading the whole shebang!
This and other possible problems are addressed on our FAQ (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/Dwnld_Video-faq.shtml)
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First installment won't decompress. Mac says Error 2 no such directory.
Help,
Stan Goldberg
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The store server is currently bogged down with multiple file downloads - today being the last day of a Sale.
My guess is that the file is being corrupted in a very slow download
Our apologies. My suggestion is to wait 24 hours.
Let us know if you still have the problem tomorrow
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Just wanted to drop a short "thank you" to the whole team for CP&S. Not often you get such training, wisdom and humour in one package :)
martin
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Still having problems downloading. The files either download as very small html files or give an error reading that no such file exists.
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Chris, Michael & Jeff,
Just wanted to say great job on producing C2PS.
I did notice during the slide show video a text popped up "Watch for lightroom 4 tutorial in 2012".
I assume lightroom 4 is coming out soon?
Best,
Stu
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You can of course assume that there will be a Lightroom 4.
As to when, well, we can't say publicly, of course.
Try holding your breath though and counting to.......
Michael
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Cudos to Micheal, Jeff, Chris and anyone else involved. I'm quite happy to have purchased this.
I'm still having trouble downloading (getting corrupt files). #34 and #37. I'll try again on Monday.
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I am having the same problem with #33 & #37.
All the rest downloaded fine.
For #33 & #37 the download terminates prematurely and I get a corrupted file.
I normally use Foxfire, but tried with IE as well. It is just these two. I have tried 4 times with both browsers with the same results. Any help would be appreciated.
Bob Mc
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I'm waiting until the rush has ended, maybe next week some time.
I know it will be worth the wait.
And let me add my thanks to Michael and Jeff and Chris for yet another wonderful, entertaining, and informative set of videos (judging from the ones I've viewed so far).
Eric
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Great series. Only purchased a couple of weeks ago, but I'm working my way through them and picking up huge amounts of useful tips and information.
Haven't had any problems in downloading the full series. (Firefox on OSX Lion)
Many thanks to all involved.
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Many, many thanks to Michael and Jeff for passing on their knowledge to the rest of us. Very educational and fun to watch. Also thanks to Chris and all the others behind the scenes for the their work on producing the video/audio that we get to see.
As mentioned about LR 4... If it dies not contain "Soft Proofing", then we will all to get our torches and pitchforks and march down to Photoshop.
Andrew
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As mentioned about LR 4... If it dies not contain "Soft Proofing", then we will all to get our torches and pitchforks and march down to Photoshop.
I really can't say anything but...I think it will be safe to store your pitchforks for the winter...they make for lousy snow removal implements.
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Great work guys!, I really enjoyed it. And perfect timing by the way, I bought my Epson 3880 back in June, few weeks laters I got the first videos os these tutorial.
Now looking forward for you LR4 video tutorial...
Regards,
David
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Great work guys!, I really enjoyed it.
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Now looking forward for you LR4 video tutorial...
Regards,
David
Likewise.
But I won't try downloading the LR4 tutorial until at least a week after it is available.
Eric
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I really can't say anything but...I think it will be safe to store your pitchforks for the winter...they make for lousy snow removal implements.
Thanks Michael, thanks Jeff.
For what is worth, even if English is not my primary language, nor have I ever practiced it so much, I found the lesson to be very clear and understandable.
You've done a great work.
PS: I think no one would ever doubt that not only LR4 will have soft proofing, but it will be as easy and polished as the printing module. No need to let Michael or Jeff spoil anything ;D
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This is my first post on LuLa, which I've been following for many years now. I would just like to thank Michal and Jeff for the wonderful tutorials. They gave me the confidence to finally give it a try and start my own business. I might be totally wrong, but I counted nine shirts (the one with the parrots was my personal favorite).
Regards,
Bernie
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Chris, I already sent Michael an email giving him my thanks for the videos, but you deserve commendation on your excellent work as an editor. This series was first rate and an incredible value. I produce videos for one of my relatives, and I understand entirely how much work goes into the finished product. If you were the only videographer present it is amazing how much you were able to accomplish, the seamless transitions between multiple cameras, to the screencasts on the computer.
Again, my compliments and best regards.
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Chris, I already sent Michael an email giving him my thanks for the videos, but you deserve commendation on your excellent work as an editor. This series was first rate and an incredible value. I produce videos for one of my relatives, and I understand entirely how much work goes into the finished product. If you were the only videographer present it is amazing how much you were able to accomplish, the seamless transitions between multiple cameras, to the screencasts on the computer.
Again, my compliments and best regards.
I agree 1,000%! Great job Chris. Your part of the project is equally as important as the presenters and information.
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Many thanks to both of you!
Chris
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Michael, Jeff, and Chris,
Thanks for the c2ps videos, i am immensely enjoying the contents. Must say i did not count the unique shirts of Jeff, too busy absorbing the content, but i do like your style Jeff ;-) . Chris, how do you do this video creation and editing? I find it quite amazing, the quality, the fluidness of imaging and transitions. Great job ;-)
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...Chris, how do you do this video creation and editing?...
Slowly, deliberately and with occasional profanity ;D
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I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this question...but here is goes anyway.
So, with the Beta version of LR4 upon us, and it's upcoming release...things are going to change (in terms of workflow etc.)
I think that it would be safe to assume that if Micheal & Jeff had shot this video in say, April or May of 2012, many things would be different, because of the added capabilities of LR4 (soft proofing, being a big one).
I know that they are going to be creating a new video for LR4, but is there any chance they will update the current C2P&S?
I know that it's all to common for all sorts of products to become obsolete soon after purchase...but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels a bit put off, having recently purchased C2P&S, only to have (some of it) basically become obsolete so soon.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still very happy with having purchased it and I'll probably purchase others in the future.
I'm just wondering if there might be some concession for those of us who have purchased C2P&S. Whether it be an update or a discount on the LR4 video etc.
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I think that it would be safe to assume that if Micheal & Jeff had shot this video in say, April or May of 2012, many things would be different, because of the added capabilities of LR4 (soft proofing, being a big one).
Actually, soft proofing is the only difference...
Both Mike and I already advocate printing from Lightroom and the addition of LR4 only adds to that. The soft proofing section of C2PS does have the reliance of Photoshop–which in the future with LR4 won't be an issue but there are still many reasons for going into Photoshop.
As for whether or not there will be an update to C2PS for LR4's soft proofing, I don't know...that's above my pay grade. As to whether or not there will be a discount towards LR4 videos, same answer...
Look, we haven't even shot the darn thing yet...and LR4 is still beta. And in point of fact, nothing in C2PS is "obsolete"...the only thing different is the ability now to soft proof from LR4....which if you check the section I think I hinted at (something about heads rolling).
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Fair enough. Thanks for the reply Mr. Schewe.
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Actually, soft proofing is the only difference...
As for whether or not there will be an update to C2PS for LR4's soft proofing, I don't know...that above my pay grade. As to whether or not there will be a discount towards LR4 videos, same answer...
The Digitaldog (http://digitaldog.net/files/LR4_softproof.mov) has a nice video tutorial on soft-proofing in LR4 that gives the essentials, and the procedure should not be difficult, especially for those who have soft proofed in Photoshop.
Regards,
Bill
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The Digitaldog (http://digitaldog.net/files/LR4_softproof.mov) has a nice video tutorial on soft-proofing in LR4 that gives the essentials, and the procedure should not be difficult, especially for those who have soft proofed in Photoshop.
Andrew did a good job but...I think he should have used the Before/After function to give an indicator on HOW to correct an image in soft proofing. The Before/After views are really important to give an indication of what changes need to be done for the image to print optimally.
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Andrew did a good job but...I think he should have used the Before/After function to give an indicator on HOW to correct an image in soft proofing. The Before/After views are really important to give an indication of what changes need to be done for the image to print optimally.
Jeff- while you bring that up, please allow me a question. Is the use of the wording (in LR4 Beta) the same as soft proofing in CSx, i.e. Original/Copy. Before=Copy!
Thanks, Dave
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No...in Photoshop you had to create a whole file which when using the Duplicate does add a "copy" in the file name. Lightroom's Before/after is a completely different function. It uses history to show the image Before and the current state in After. Before/After has been in LR for a while. Also, when making any adjustments when soft proofing, LR give you the opportunity to create a new Virtual Copy and will add the proofed profile name in the VC name. Really, pretty slick...
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No...in Photoshop you had to create a whole file which when using the Duplicate does add a "copy" in the file name. Lightroom's Before/after is a completely different function. It uses history to show the image Before and the current state in After. Before/After has been in LR for a while. Also, when making any adjustments when soft proofing, LR give you the opportunity to create a new Virtual Copy and will add the proofed profile name in the VC name. Really, pretty slick...
Sorry Jeff, I must have taken a dense pill today. I understand in CSx the process calls for creating the Copy. Soft Proofing is "applied" to the "original". In LR4, assume I go to SP a DNG. With the DNG selected in Develop Module, I turn on SP. With the 1st adjustment, the virtual copy is made. What I'm asking, is the Before the DNG, and the After the Virtual Copy, with however many subsequent adjustments?
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What I'm asking, is the Before the DNG, and the After the Virtual Copy, with however many subsequent adjustments?
No...Before/After has nothing to do with VC's...you can do the Before/After without doing a VC. Before/After uses history to show the image before a function and then after the function. I'm still on the fence regarding using VC's automatically for images I soft proof. I voted strongly NOT to spawn off VC's but rather pop in a new snapshot of the image before and after the soft proofing...I'm still working that out. The advantage of the current function is you can automatically create the VC where using snapshots requires a degree of attention and detail for what you are doing. Unfortunately, there's limited functionality in LR for snapshots. VC's can be filtered but snapshots can't. I think the big difference is volume. If you don't mind spawning off VC's, they can work well.
The other problem at the moment is that when you make changes to an image while soft proofed, there's often a similarity to the changes needed. But, there's currently no way of applying "relative" adjustments to image in Develop using Presets. Presets are absolute settings so you can't really save out a standard soft proof adjustment on one image and be able to apply those settings relatively to other images current settings. So, soft proofing is really image by image...something I hope changes in the future...
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Suggest you move this Soft Proofing discussion to the Adobe Lightroom Q & A (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?board=31.0)
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Andrew,
Thank you for the second installment. It is very informative.
Tom
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Suggest you move this Soft Proofing discussion to the Adobe Lightroom Q & A (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?board=31.0)
Chris-as moderator can you peel off the last several replies regarding soft proofing to a new thread in the Adobe Lightroom Q & A?
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Andrew,
Thank you for the second installment. It is very informative.
Tom
Indeed! Very helpful. Thanks, Andrew.
Eric M.
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Moderator error - apologies, but to continue this thread and see Andrew's reply, go here: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=61352.0 (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=61352.0)
There is a link to a new movie by Andrew on Soft Proofing in LR4
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I am sorely tempted to purchase your video and I have watched your 21 Min free preview. Although you have a terrific web site, your preview video consists mostly of reminiscing and one-upmanship between Michael and Jeff and very little actual instruction. Does your video contain 11 Hrs of the same and 1 1/2 Hrs of instructions or is there some more meat in it? Any other instructional videos (like NIK) are total instruction, yes I know they sell the software, but you are selling your course.
How do any of you who purchased the video feel about this? Thanks.
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I am sorely tempted to purchase your video and I have watched your 21 Min free preview. Although you have a terrific web site, your preview video consists mostly of reminiscing and one-upmanship between Michael and Jeff and very little actual instruction. Does your video contain 11 Hrs of the same and 1 1/2 Hrs of instructions or is there some more meat in it? Any other instructional videos (like NIK) are total instruction, yes I know they sell the software, but you are selling your course.
How do any of you who purchased the video feel about this? Thanks.
HI,
there is very much much "meat" in this video !
In my opinion, this is the best course on these topiucs you can buy. Surely, there are some humorious aspects, but these are the spices in the soup. Pleae, keep in mind, most of the information provided come directly from the horses mouth, so I bet there is no better source.
Just my 5 cent !
Best wishes
Robert
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Thanks Chris for moving the thread!
Dave B
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I am sorely tempted to purchase your video and I have watched your 21 Min free preview. Although you have a terrific web site, your preview video consists mostly of reminiscing and one-upmanship between Michael and Jeff and very little actual instruction. Does your video contain 11 Hrs of the same and 1 1/2 Hrs of instructions or is there some more meat in it? Any other instructional videos (like NIK) are total instruction, yes I know they sell the software, but you are selling your course.
How do any of you who purchased the video feel about this? Thanks.
I have purchased many video tutorials over the past 10 years or so. Camera to Print & Screen is the best value for the money that I have made in a video tutorial. I will go a bit further and say that this video series is the best, and most chock full of information, of ALL of the videos that I have purchased. I view the video series even as a better value than any of the classes that I have attended at PPA Imaging etc.
I found the banter between Michael and Jeff to be very entertaining and made me feel like I was hanging out with a couple of my photographer/Photoshop friends. In other words, it was not boring and dry at all. Very juicy!
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I am sorely tempted to purchase your video and I have watched your 21 Min free preview. Although you have a terrific web site, your preview video consists mostly of reminiscing and one-upmanship between Michael and Jeff and very little actual instruction. Does your video contain 11 Hrs of the same and 1 1/2 Hrs of instructions or is there some more meat in it? Any other instructional videos (like NIK) are total instruction, yes I know they sell the software, but you are selling your course.
How do any of you who purchased the video feel about this? Thanks.
The banter between Michael and Jeff add to this video---and the others they have done---not take away from it. I got all the instruction I needed in this---and yes, there is plenty of it. I originally learned Lightroom through LL videos, and learned it much more effectively and enjoyably than using even the good books I have on it. These videos are very instructive, and done in an entertaining way. Don't know if that sort of instruction works for you, but I certainly enjoy it.